johns wedge rebuild

johns wedge rebuild

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mrzigazaga

18,553 posts

165 months

Monday 13th February 2017
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Totally impressive engineering....thumbup

richard sails

810 posts

259 months

Wednesday 15th February 2017
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Fantastic job on the car John and a very interesting read. It would be a good entry for this years Trevor Wilkinson Trophy?

Engineer1949

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1,423 posts

144 months

Saturday 18th February 2017
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what do you feel is wrong with the electrics


john

ClassicChimaera

12,424 posts

149 months

Saturday 18th February 2017
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Penelope Stopit said:
There shouldn't be any red yellow or blue crush on terminals used for termination
Find a good supplier of professional terminals and crimping tool, if the wires are too short to cut the rubbish off and replace with good terminals they can be extended by soldering on new wires and using heatshrink with built-in resin to insulate and seal the joints, untaping some loom is a good method for extending wires, the soldered joints can be made inside the loom and not close to the termination points.....
Untape some loom
Cut off wire with bad terminal at a point in the loom that is going to be re-taped
Solder on new wire
Heat-shrink soldered joint
Move on to next bad wire and repeat above, be sure to stagger the joints/cuts, don't have 2 or more joints in the same place
Move on to next bad wire.....
Re-tape loom
Many wires could well be long enough to cut off and replace the bad terminals
You will end up with a very good loom
This is a nasty bloke, might have a point but comes out the blue to criticise people who constantly help others.

Blitzracing is one of the most helpfull, this guys abuse was and is uncalled for. Be civil or do one.....

carsy

3,018 posts

165 months

Saturday 18th February 2017
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I have occasionally heard people also slate the blue red yellow crimp terminals.

I have been using these for 30 yrs without a single issue. Infact i am aware of a car built entirely with these 30rs old now still with no issues.

As long as the wire is a tight fit within the terminal. Crimp it and then try pulling it apart.

ClassicChimaera

12,424 posts

149 months

Saturday 18th February 2017
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You have little manners, not nice is it hehe

Saved, you calling the police,,, weird!

ClassicChimaera

12,424 posts

149 months

Saturday 18th February 2017
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Penelope Stopit said:
You are an idiot of the highest order, your post is nothing but garbage
I have posted my professional opinion of the OP's vehicle electrics and given a step by step guide for the OP to improve things if he/she wishes to
You have jumped in totally off topic and given nothing
You and the likes of, represent everything that is wrong with internet forums
I charge a lot of money for my endless pit of knowledge yet I have chosen to share my knowledge here for free
Please child, if you have nothing constructive to post, don't bother
Good on you for coming on here and offering your expensive knowledge but there's ways and means,

You appeared to come on Chim forum and attempt to humiliate someone's comments rather then actually just get down to what you think is right from wrong and offer a solution.

Saved!

Bye, and have a nice day Now. hehe


Your

ClassicChimaera

12,424 posts

149 months

Sunday 19th February 2017
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Your a really nice guy by the sounds of you.
Manners cost nothing.

GV

2,366 posts

224 months

Wednesday 22nd February 2017
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I actually thought the tips were useful.

mk1fan

10,516 posts

225 months

Wednesday 22nd February 2017
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GV said:
I actually thought the tips were useful.
Burn the non-believer!


Life of Brian, 1979

voltage_maxx

368 posts

209 months

Wednesday 22nd February 2017
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Engineer1949 said:
another milestone today got the offside rear suspension all built up, i fabricated the top rails for the coil over shocks which once i have the adjustable shocks will give me infinite ride and height adjustment plus the ability to experiment with the spring rates quite like the idea of a much more upright shock with lower spring rate which give a much better shock travel to wheel travel ratio more the way later cars are going, still early days yet a bit more welding to finally fit the shock rails then paint and start all over again on the nearside.
there are also a couple of pics of the lower wishbone i have fabricated for the front suspension gives easy and fairly extensive camber adjustment needs the shock mount making and welding in place plus the bracket for the tie rod but pleased so far.
ignore the crow st welding migs gone tits up going to stick weld them tomorrow after some serious grinding but at least they are in place.

john











Just to bring things back on track.....

John - those rear suspension modifications look superb.
I've suffered problems with my rear trailing arm bushes - as do most people with trailing arm V8s
Pondered using spherical bearings myself - nice to see someone else do it.
I also like the idea of the adjustable ride height - plus it does away with the inaccesible upper shock mount nut!

Super job - hope to see it in the flesh at some point.
Bob.

adam quantrill

11,538 posts

242 months

Wednesday 22nd February 2017
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Just when I thought this thread was going to peter out - handbags at ten paces!

Anyhoo @John, with those suspension mods what't the form when insuring, as they usually ask "is the car modified", do you have an (independent) engineer's report to wave at them or summat?


Engineer1949

Original Poster:

1,423 posts

144 months

Thursday 23rd February 2017
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my insurance company accepted my appraisal and i get track day cover as well


john

Engineer1949

Original Poster:

1,423 posts

144 months

Thursday 23rd February 2017
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i didnt miss it just dont agree i am nearly 70 and have been formally in the marine and before that agricultural industries latterly in the marine industry as a prolific boat builder we used crimp terminals exclusively using the red blue and yellows for all terminations on instrument panels pumps nav gear just about everything even battery terminals have to be crimped and fixed to post terminals with 8 or 10mm bolt posts as required by the MSA and broads authority so naturally i have used what is currently industry best practice as a base for my car i do not say this cannot be superceded by some other form but if properly terminated will last for many years.


john

GV

2,366 posts

224 months

Thursday 23rd February 2017
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Engineer1949 said:
i didnt miss it just dont agree i am nearly 70 and have been formally in the marine and before that agricultural industries latterly in the marine industry as a prolific boat builder we used crimp terminals exclusively using the red blue and yellows for all terminations on instrument panels pumps nav gear just about everything even battery terminals have to be crimped and fixed to post terminals with 8 or 10mm bolt posts as required by the MSA and broads authority so naturally i have used what is currently industry best practice as a base for my car i do not say this cannot be superceded by some other form but if properly terminated will last for many years.


john
How much for a pair of lower wishbones for the coilover set up John?

Oldred_V8S

3,715 posts

238 months

Sunday 26th February 2017
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In another post I was sure someone mentioned that crimp terminals were used in the aircraft industry and have been for some time. I couldn't find the post, but I did manage to locate the FAA Aircraft Electrical Wiring Interconnect System (EWIS) Best Practices Job Aid, and sure enough found the following:

"Pre-insulated crimp-type ring-tongue terminals are preferred"

Now whilst I personally use uninsulated crimpable terminals that are later soldered and protected with glue lined shrink tube, it does raise the discussion that if it is good enough for the aircraft industry why are crimp connectors not good enough for motor vehicles? I think at a minimum I would ensure moisture is kept out of the connections with glue treated shrink tube. But that's my personal choice. Each to their own.

mrzigazaga

18,553 posts

165 months

Sunday 26th February 2017
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Them crimps are cramping this thread...confused
Good advice is always welcome ...Whether taken or not...

This forum has become a war zone too many times can we please just keep it a nice place to be...smile

beer


adam quantrill

11,538 posts

242 months

Sunday 26th February 2017
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I too prefer to solder these terminals after crimping them on.

But it only removes one point of failure, over time the spade terminals themselves tarnish or corrode, and the connection gets a bit flakey.


Number 7

4,103 posts

262 months

Sunday 26th February 2017
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Penelope, you see to be very knowledgeable about several different TVR models. Why don't you introduce yourself, and your TVR (s)?. You'll find a welcome in the Wedge world, especially if you have one smile

Grady

1,221 posts

260 months

Thursday 2nd March 2017
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mrzigazaga said:
Them crimps are cramping this thread...confused
Good advice is always welcome ...Whether taken or not...

This forum has become a war zone too many times can we please just keep it a nice place to be...smile

beer
^^^ I completely agree. Grady