Clicky clicky..FFS!!!

[mrzigazaga]

Hi Peeps...Well after sorting out the fuel pump i get in her this morning and "Click" goes the starter motor..."Click...Click"...Then she fires...Go a few miles..Turn her off...get back in..Turn her on...Nothing..Just.."Click-click"..Bang with heavy tool..Nothing..Wiggle wires...Nothing..Then a van goes past with three lads in so i cadge a bump start..Get her home...Order a new starter...Jack her up..Wheel off...Starter out..Wait till the morning...

I think all the cranking for extended periods the other day when no fuel was getting through finished it off...I was surprised how easy the starter came out..So from now on i shall add to my boot full of tools ...A trolley jack...Wheel brace and Axle stands..Don't know why but my car feels bloody slow......Ziga

[jmorgan]

I have had an issue in the past where a poor earth and battery connection were not enough, occasional it would just click.

With the battery disconnected, did I say disconnected battery? Yep disconnected battery, must disconnect the battery. Disconnect it! Before doing this with a multimeter.

I measured 50ohms from the +ve battery side of the lead to starter post that the battery lead is bolted to. Cleaned them up and measured zero ohms, and it seemed to cure it.

But that was before I took it off......

Sure the cranking did not overheat the cables, especially the crimped parts?

[mrzigazaga]

jmorgan said:

Sure the cranking did not overheat the cables, especially the crimped parts?

Well starting hasn't been an issue up until now..So i hope it was the starter cos its just cost me 140 smackers..I hope that the wires are ok..They look fine but thats no guarantee..Fingers crossed...Ziga

[Number 7]

Mark, as I'm sure you know by now, the starters eventually get fried by being so close to the O/S exhaust manifold. It's worth fabricating a heat shield to give it some protection.

[tvrwedgehead]

So now we just have to wait for the 3rd wedge starter motor to fail...

Had to do mine last Thursday, but took the easy option of getting my garage to change it £220 parts + 1 hours labour
So £300 all in... But in and out in a day so I had G8RWL back for the weekend


Simon

[TVRIK]

mrzigazaga said:

Hi Peeps...Well after sorting out the fuel pump i get in her this morning and "Click" goes the starter motor..."Click...Click"...Then she fires...Go a few miles..Turn her off...get back in..Turn her on...Nothing..Just.."Click-click"..Bang with heavy tool..Nothing..Wiggle wires...Nothing..Then a van goes past with three lads in so i cadge a bump start..Get her home...Order a new starter...Jack her up..Wheel off...Starter out..Wait till the morning...

I think all the cranking for extended periods the other day when no fuel was getting through finished it off...I was surprised how easy the starter came out..So from now on i shall add to my boot full of tools ...A trolley jack...Wheel brace and Axle stands..Don't know why but my car feels bloody slow......Ziga

I had that last year Zig new solenoid all sorted, however it's now the same again!
When I had it sorted last year, they said the Soly was full if water!
I'm guessing over the year the same has happened, gonna fit it this weekend hopefully.
Only 17 quid do not too bad!
Rik

[smash]

Zig - can you buy me a lottery ticket for this weekend please!

[mtb]

Mine went last week .lucky we have a guy locally that repairs starters and alternators rang he said nine times out of ten its the solenoid.removed solenoid but plungedr inside unhooked its self from the toggle .
Chappie tested solenoid stone dead new one ordered arrived next day £35notes but took me two hours of cursing to get plunger reconnected to toggle motor fine now...
Mike.

[mrzigazaga]

Number 7 said:

Mark, as I'm sure you know by now, the starters eventually get fried by being so close to the O/S exhaust manifold. It's worth fabricating a heat shield to give it some protection.

Not a bad idea mate but not sure if i have anything adequate right now..Definitely worth doing at some point though...Cheers..

tvrwedgehead said:

Had to do mine last Thursday, but took the easy option of getting my garage to change it £220 parts + 1 hours labour
So £300 all in... But in and out in a day so I had G8RWL back for the weekend

That was nearly an option for me but it was relatively easy to get the old one out..Whether it will be as easy to get the new one in will remain to be seen.

TVRIK said:

I had that last year Zig new solenoid all sorted, however it's now the same again!
When I had it sorted last year, they said the Soly was full if water!
I'm guessing over the year the same has happened, gonna fit it this weekend hopefully.
Only 17 quid do not too bad!
Rik

I was looking for just the solenoid but didn't want to remove it all only to find that the whole unit might be shyte..Like my luck...

smash said:

Zig - can you buy me a lottery ticket for this weekend please!

mtb said:

Mine went last week .lucky we have a guy locally that repairs starters and alternators rang he said nine times out of ten its the solenoid.removed solenoid but plungedr inside unhooked its self from the toggle .
Chappie tested solenoid stone dead new one ordered arrived next day £35notes but took me two hours of cursing to get plunger reconnected to toggle motor fine now...
Mike.

Im hoping i can get the old one refurbed as i used to use a fellow who is old school and is very affordable...Then flea it as i would like to get some pennies back...At least its a tick off the "To do" list...Cheers..Ziga

[V8 Fettler]

Flapper cranking can be perverse. My 350i takes several seconds of cranking before it fires from cold, it always fires but it takes several seconds, I put this down to the length of time it takes the fuel to reach the fuel rail from the pump. I have thought about a switch in the cabin to run the pump for a few seconds before cranking, thus saving wear on the starter.

I now have another flapper on another non-TVR RV8 that starts virtually instantly from cold, which undermines the theory of "needs a few seconds to pressurise the fuel rail".

[MrPicky]

Mine doesn't lose pressure from the fuel rail until it has been left for a week or more.

Russ

[bluezeeland]

mrzigazaga said:

my boot full of tools ...A trolley jack...Wheel brace and Axle stands..Don't know why but my car feels bloody slow......Ziga

Don't like the sound of that.......carrying a few spares (....) OK, but why is she slow ?

[mrzigazaga]

bluezeeland said:

Don't like the sound of that.......carrying a few spares (....) OK, but why is she slow ?

You haven't seen my boot...

[adam quantrill]

The red/black wire to the started takes a hefty current and can get fried too so it's worth checking. I got a cheap landrover starter and it was brilliant! Smaller too so further from the exhaust.

[wooly350i]

Can someone post up where to get solenoid from, mines had little use since replacing it a little while ago although its out of guarantee it has starting sticking also but if I can just replace the solenoid it would be kinder on the wallet. Wooly.

[mrzigazaga]

Hi mate...Might just need to lube it up...If not you could try these guys who i have ordered my starter from..

http://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&...

Or i have just found this...
http://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=i&rct=j&q=&...

Hope it helps...Ziga

[wooly350i]

Cheers Mark, I'll have a looky.

[mrzigazaga]

Just found some of the bonnet heat proofing that i used on Delilah...Gonna make a heat jacket for the starter...Cheaper than paying nearly £40 for the same thing..Should do the job..Woven fibreglass covered in aluminium...

[mrzigazaga]

Right all fitted so I'm going for a test drive...Cheers..Ziga

[mrzigazaga]

All good...She now starts a lot quicker..Will make the heat proof jacket soon as i couldn't fit it on without the wiring on first...Cheers...Ziga