The SX Wedges.
Discussion
mrzigazaga said:
Hi Peeps...After the fun and games on the TVRCC forum i would like to clear something up...I was shot down and accused of talking shyte when i suggested that they were "Crudely" put together..This is my understanding so please enlighten me if I'm incorrect.
TVR and "Crudley" put together in the same sentence .... Never !!! ... Edited by mrzigazaga on Thursday 7th August 18:12
Thanks Andy..Not too long at all...I enjoy reading all the replies as it helps me to understand more about the history of the cars i love..I hope my wording of "Crudely" didn't offend anyone as its not meant to...It was merely a comparison between then and now...Maybe i should of said.."Less complicated"...And yes although my project failed in a mad way i was glad it did..Mainly because i would still be spending heaps of money on it...
After reading the story of Dave Haughins it actually brought a tear to my eye as it showed that his passion burnt deeper than some people could of ever realised..A very sad end indeed.
I know i have been accused of running my Wedge on a shoe-string budget but lets face it our cars were made from buckets of bits from cars that were..Well not the best in the world and a lot of the time you find yourself saying "WHY" to a lot of factors surrounding them..But thats what i love about them..That quirkiness has kept them alive in the hands and hearts of people who all share the same passion.
All the individual stories i hear of peoples fond memories and experiences of TVR fascinate me, I was honoured to meet Oliver Winterbottom who is a proper character who mesmerises us all with his stories from his days at TVR and Lotus, Although it does take a few applications of G&T to jog his memory..A small price to pay for such an entertaining dude...Hopefully he will be at the next BBWF.
I have an idea for next years BBWF but will post up a separate post regarding it as there are other factors i would like to discuss.
One of them may be to recreate some of the sales promotion pictures...Probably to the disgust of certain individuals...
..Nevertheless its still a big part in TVR's history...
I wonder who the lucky devil is who owns this 400SE...
Cheers...Ziga
After reading the story of Dave Haughins it actually brought a tear to my eye as it showed that his passion burnt deeper than some people could of ever realised..A very sad end indeed.
I know i have been accused of running my Wedge on a shoe-string budget but lets face it our cars were made from buckets of bits from cars that were..Well not the best in the world and a lot of the time you find yourself saying "WHY" to a lot of factors surrounding them..But thats what i love about them..That quirkiness has kept them alive in the hands and hearts of people who all share the same passion.
All the individual stories i hear of peoples fond memories and experiences of TVR fascinate me, I was honoured to meet Oliver Winterbottom who is a proper character who mesmerises us all with his stories from his days at TVR and Lotus, Although it does take a few applications of G&T to jog his memory..A small price to pay for such an entertaining dude...Hopefully he will be at the next BBWF.
I have an idea for next years BBWF but will post up a separate post regarding it as there are other factors i would like to discuss.
One of them may be to recreate some of the sales promotion pictures...Probably to the disgust of certain individuals...
..Nevertheless its still a big part in TVR's history...I wonder who the lucky devil is who owns this 400SE...
Cheers...Ziga
mrzigazaga said:
I have an idea for next years BBWF but will post up a separate post regarding it as there are other factors i would like to discuss.
One of them may be to recreate some of the sales promotion pictures...Probably to the disgust of certain individuals.....Nevertheless its still a big part in TVR's history...
I wonder who the lucky devil is who owns this 400SE...
Cheers...Ziga
I bet your other idea is that you've traced the two birds in the picture and they'll be attending the BBWF 2015. Only I'm a bit worried about what they look like now. More mature I guess. Just how you like them Zig One of them may be to recreate some of the sales promotion pictures...Probably to the disgust of certain individuals...
..Nevertheless its still a big part in TVR's history...I wonder who the lucky devil is who owns this 400SE...
Cheers...Ziga
Tony. TCB.
ElvisWedgely said:
I bet your other idea is that you've traced the two birds in the picture and they'll be attending the BBWF 2015. Only I'm a bit worried about what they look like now. More mature I guess. Just how you like them Zig
Tony. TCB.
Well I'm not ageist ..(How that ever became a word i don't know)..But their pensions are pittance so i will be offering my support for the four of them...Errr..I mean both of em...However i will have some shall we say younger models to replicate these pictures as accurately as possible as all the excitement might prove a little too much for the more mature ladies...Although it might prove too might for me with the younger ones...Tony. TCB.
Zig, TVR's werent precisionly engineered .. FACT
Even Peter wheeler admitted that the reason the newer models had large panel gaps was to hide the poor tolerances of producing a fiberglass car.
Look at the quality of steel and powder coating used more modern cars .. its crap ...
Given the facts .. why is there any doubt on the Quality control and lack of precision engineering that went into making the SX's
I run mine on a shoestring ... ran it as my everyday car for 4 years too.
I went to Peninsula when the only options were Thames Valley racing, TowerView or Wedge Automotive or main dealers because Peninsula were cheap by comparison.
I run budget tyres and will always source a cheaper way than paying through the mose. So on those facts alone Brother, im right beside you.
Even Peter wheeler admitted that the reason the newer models had large panel gaps was to hide the poor tolerances of producing a fiberglass car.
Look at the quality of steel and powder coating used more modern cars .. its crap ...
Given the facts .. why is there any doubt on the Quality control and lack of precision engineering that went into making the SX's
I run mine on a shoestring ... ran it as my everyday car for 4 years too.
I went to Peninsula when the only options were Thames Valley racing, TowerView or Wedge Automotive or main dealers because Peninsula were cheap by comparison.
I run budget tyres and will always source a cheaper way than paying through the mose. So on those facts alone Brother, im right beside you.
JVaughan said:
Zig, TVR's werent precisionly engineered .. FACT
"WHAT"...
.............I know..However there is someone out there who needs to wake up and smell the welding..They are convinced that they were...They are rough..Loud and drink a lot..How much more British can one be....(In a rough pirate voice).."We don't need no peg-leg captain or be a ships wheel..We're all scurfy dogs sailing the same voyage with rum in our bellies..Hoist the jolly roger"..(A massive gaggle of pirate cheers).."Hooray"
GV said:
The above is correct. Haughins were rival dealers to the TVR Centre in Barnet and they created the SX. The factory were happy for the dealers to make such mods but did not market them as such. Back in the day the dealers had a great say in what the factory ended up doing coming up with their own mods. Another example was a tubular manifold and exhaust system mod for the S1 350is which then became standard for the S2 models that started appearing from 85 onwards...
The TVR Centre also offered a 4 x Weber upgrade to replace the fuel injection system on a 350i. This mod was offered in the early days of the 350i abd one such car was reviewed in the press.
OK What the hell are those pictures doing in here, they should all be WEDGES, not 'ladies of negotiable affection'
(I do love that phrasing...)
I've ALWAYS regarded TVRs as manufactured kit cars anyway, with their related issues and bodges.
Having built several kits as well in my time, some of the kits were (IMHO) better quality builds than the TVRs. Some of the kits I've seen were horrors and I would never drive them, chassis made of nothing but steel angle and not properly triangulated, etc etc, but at least the TVR chassis looks decently designed, but why those weird trailing arms and bushes ? Later ones fixed that, which is good, but as said quality control seemed to slowly drop for the wedges and so now those chassis are quite rusty, whereas mine still looks fine and has most of its grey coating.
I agree it's the rareness and unusual quirks that make them worthwhile, and there's nothing like driving them top down at speed, great noise, good power (even the 2.8 isn't all that bad), and the admiring looks from other drivers.
PS - don't forget the M series had press photos with completely nude models posing on and around them....
and of course what TVR produced in their time, whilst going bankrupt multiple times, was simply amazing....
(I do love that phrasing...)
I've ALWAYS regarded TVRs as manufactured kit cars anyway, with their related issues and bodges.
Having built several kits as well in my time, some of the kits were (IMHO) better quality builds than the TVRs. Some of the kits I've seen were horrors and I would never drive them, chassis made of nothing but steel angle and not properly triangulated, etc etc, but at least the TVR chassis looks decently designed, but why those weird trailing arms and bushes ? Later ones fixed that, which is good, but as said quality control seemed to slowly drop for the wedges and so now those chassis are quite rusty, whereas mine still looks fine and has most of its grey coating.
I agree it's the rareness and unusual quirks that make them worthwhile, and there's nothing like driving them top down at speed, great noise, good power (even the 2.8 isn't all that bad), and the admiring looks from other drivers.
PS - don't forget the M series had press photos with completely nude models posing on and around them....
and of course what TVR produced in their time, whilst going bankrupt multiple times, was simply amazing....
Edited by RCK974X on Friday 8th August 22:09
Yes, given to me by David himself. Not too many around - may be worth more than the cars ;o)
One thing people wouldn't know unless they'd visted his garage, was that he had a parrot. He let it fly around the garage too. You didn't want to leave your car there too long if you were worried about the paintwork! Was certainly a personality.
One thing people wouldn't know unless they'd visted his garage, was that he had a parrot. He let it fly around the garage too. You didn't want to leave your car there too long if you were worried about the paintwork! Was certainly a personality.
Edited by Englishman on Friday 8th August 22:28
Englishman said:
Yes, given to me by David himself. Not too many around - may be worth more than the cars ;o)
Awesome..Well kept as well...Good man.Englishman said:
One thing people wouldn't know unless they'd visted his garage, was that he had a parrot. He let it fly around the garage too. You didn't want to leave your car there too long if you were worried about the paintwork! Was certainly a personality.
He certainly sounded like a proper character..I read that bit about the parrot..Having a nibble on a 390SE roof.....Classic...Its such a massive shame that the story has such an unhappy ending...Gassing Station | Wedges | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff