Wings and Wheels...Pah!

Wings and Wheels...Pah!

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mrzigazaga

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18,534 posts

164 months

Sunday 24th August 2014
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Hi Peeps...Well i was really looking forward to going to the "Wings and Wheels" show at Dunsfold today so i left out at 08.00am..Its a hour and half journey but as its the wk holiday weekend i thought even if it takes 3 hours i will still get there early enough....Pah!!...Took me two hours to get to the Horsham road which is about 2 miles from Dunsfold..Two hours later I get one mile..12.30..I saw a Spitfire fly over and what a beautiful sight it was as i absolutely love WW2 war birds..And TBH that was the only reason i went...However as i watched the spitty fly over the trees above me i saw him drop his wheels...Obviously to land, Well that killed it for me so i thought fk it...I turned round to head home...Although i did stop at a local pub for a roast beef dinner and a pint of their best bitter...While i was there i saw this black line in the sky...You could argue that its the shadow of the vapour trail next to it which was my first thought...But the line moved slowly across the sky in a straight line and the vapour trail stayed where it was...Very strange...I have seen this last year where i live in the winter and this year in the winter i have pictures of it but it looks lower or wider...



Just saw this....
http://www.wingsandwheels.net/news/item/142-on-the...

Explains a lot...

Edited by mrzigazaga on Sunday 24th August 18:19

V8 Fettler

7,019 posts

131 months

Sunday 24th August 2014
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Looks like a Vulcan trail.

Ambush by Merlin is a far better experience than standing with the great unwashed and gawping from a distance. BBMF Lanc flew over my Wedge when I was waiting to pull out from a junction a couple of years ago, I thought major engine problems had developed.

QBee

20,905 posts

143 months

Sunday 24th August 2014
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I only live 30 miles from their base.....get the BBMF overhead all the time, as I live where the A1 meets the A46, and they do seem to navigate by landmarks.

They seem to fly everywhere at low altitude, and come right over my back garden - the sound of six Merlin engines gets an old git like me teary-eyed every time. cry

We are doubly blessed - with the Red Arrows based about 20 miles away at Scampton, and normally flying everywhere at 250 feet in a perfect diamond formation, we get them over the back garden weekly too..... and they even came over with the smoke on the other day, and all 10 planes in two Vees of 5.

ElvisWedgely

2,714 posts

164 months

Sunday 24th August 2014
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Mark, when I first saw that picture taken through the windscreen, my heart nearly stopped. I thought your screen had cracked again (God forbid). It wasn't untill I read the writing I realised it was the planes in the sky. Then I thought , doesn't things look so much better in the sky through a Pilkington glass biggrin

Tony. TCB.

V8 Fettler

7,019 posts

131 months

Sunday 24th August 2014
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QBee said:
I only live 30 miles from their base.....get the BBMF overhead all the time, as I live where the A1 meets the A46, and they do seem to navigate by landmarks.

They seem to fly everywhere at low altitude, and come right over my back garden - the sound of six Merlin engines gets an old git like me teary-eyed every time. cry

We are doubly blessed - with the Red Arrows based about 20 miles away at Scampton, and normally flying everywhere at 250 feet in a perfect diamond formation, we get them over the back garden weekly too..... and they even came over with the smoke on the other day, and all 10 planes in two Vees of 5.
I'm not too far from Duxford, I was convinced for a couple of years that the white Catalina was stalking me, it would regularly appear in my peripheral vision when driving and then lumber off at 100 knots to who knows where.

The Vulcan ambushed me yesterday on the A1, just south of Newark.

mrzigazaga

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18,534 posts

164 months

Sunday 24th August 2014
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QBee said:
I only live 30 miles from their base.....get the BBMF overhead all the time, as I live where the A1 meets the A46, and they do seem to navigate by landmarks.

They seem to fly everywhere at low altitude, and come right over my back garden - the sound of six Merlin engines gets an old git like me teary-eyed every time. cry

We are doubly blessed - with the Red Arrows based about 20 miles away at Scampton, and normally flying everywhere at 250 feet in a perfect diamond formation, we get them over the back garden weekly too..... and they even came over with the smoke on the other day, and all 10 planes in two Vees of 5.
You are blessed indeed sir...I envy you already....smile
ElvisWedgely said:
Mark, when I first saw that picture taken through the windscreen, my heart nearly stopped. I thought your screen had cracked again (God forbid). It wasn't untill I read the writing I realised it was the planes in the sky. Then I thought , doesn't things look so much better in the sky through a Pilkington glass biggrin

Tony. TCB.
Tony...I took that pic when i was at the pub eating my roast beef and tatties...smile

ElvisWedgely

2,714 posts

164 months

Sunday 24th August 2014
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mrzigazaga said:
ElvisWedgely said:
Mark, when I first saw that picture taken through the windscreen, my heart nearly stopped. I thought your screen had cracked again (God forbid). It wasn't untill I read the writing I realised it was the planes in the sky. Then I thought , doesn't things look so much better in the sky through a Pilkington glass biggrin

Tony. TCB.
Tony...I took that pic when i was at the pub eating my roast beef and tatties...smile
Oops. I thought it was taken from inside the car as I could swear there was a green tint in the glass. At first glance I got a real fright. Good to hear all is well and you were enjoying your meal as well as the air show.

Tony. TCB.

smash

2,062 posts

227 months

Monday 25th August 2014
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Seen 2 Lancasters and 2 spits going in and out of Southend airport over the last week.

QBee

20,905 posts

143 months

Monday 25th August 2014
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You could be right - but the second Lancaster is over from Canada, and I would guess without having seen them that the second "Spit" is the BBMF Hurricane.

Saw this over the back garden a few weeks ago - sorry, its the daughter's iphone


mrzigazaga

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18,534 posts

164 months

Monday 25th August 2014
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cloud9....Vulcan amazing....(Instead of fking..smile)...Am i right in saying that the Vulcan has run out of flight hours and will fly no more??....What a tragedy....cry
This was one of the main things that peed me off about it all..That i might of missed the last time it ever flies...I used to see it every year when i was a child at a local airshow ..It always scared the shyte out of everyone but it was the main attraction every year without fail...What a machine....

QBee

20,905 posts

143 months

Monday 25th August 2014
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V8 Fettler said:
The Vulcan ambushed me yesterday on the A1, just south of Newark.
That's where I live - I am about 800 yards off the A1 between the first and second Newark turnings. We were out, or would have seen it.....wavey

smash

2,062 posts

227 months

Monday 25th August 2014
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QBee said:
You could be right - but the second Lancaster is over from Canada, and I would guess without having seen them that the second "Spit" is the BBMF Hurricane.
Bang on - it's from Canada but both Spits and a DC3 paradrop according to this

http://www.echo-news.co.uk/news/11419463.Battle_of...

Seen them twice going out over Old Leigh - awesome sound!

tweety

829 posts

258 months

Monday 25th August 2014
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Vulcan is supposed to be doing Bournemouth and Shoreham airshows next weekend and I've been told will fly over Eastbourne after Shoreham on Saturday.....as far as I know all scheduled flights for this year are ok its next year that's the problem....

Both Lancasters will perform a flypast of East Kirkby Airport on Tuesday 2nd September at 3pm where a 3rd Lancaster is based which will be taxying at the same time, so three Lancasters together which will be another once in a lifetime sight. Unfortunately the third Lancaster 'Just Jane'is not airworthy at present, but efforts are being made to return her to the skies.....

Cheers, Al.

mrzigazaga

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18,534 posts

164 months

Monday 25th August 2014
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tweety said:
Vulcan is supposed to be doing Bournemouth and Shoreham airshows next weekend and I've been told will fly over Eastbourne after Shoreham on Saturday.....as far as I know all scheduled flights for this year are ok its next year that's the problem....

Both Lancasters will perform a flypast of East Kirkby Airport on Tuesday 2nd September at 3pm where a 3rd Lancaster is based which will be taxying at the same time, so three Lancasters together which will be another once in a lifetime sight. Unfortunately the third Lancaster 'Just Jane'is not airworthy at present, but efforts are being made to return her to the skies.....

Cheers, Al.
Thanks for that..Shoreham airshow....scratchchin...Its only 50 odd miles from me...Lets hope the weather holds out cos i think I'm going.....smile

Wedg1e

26,760 posts

264 months

Tuesday 26th August 2014
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The Canadian Lanc is due at Durham Tees Valley airport on Wednesday (i.e. tomorrow as it's now Tuesday...)... so depending on which way they fly in it'll be over either Stockton or Darlington at some stage...

Transmitter Man

4,253 posts

223 months

Tuesday 26th August 2014
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Red Arrows seem to train a lot near RAF Acrotiri here in Cyprus.

Phil
420 SEAC

QBee

20,905 posts

143 months

Tuesday 26th August 2014
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Transmitter Man said:
Red Arrows seem to train a lot near RAF Acrotiri here in Cyprus.

Phil
420 SEAC
Yes, there was a TV program here in the UK recently about their 50th anniversary, and it showed their warm weather training in Cyprus where they tested the new recruits to the team.

rev-erend

21,404 posts

283 months

Tuesday 26th August 2014
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I was there on Saturday and it was not very busy at all..

Did see one wedge parked right at the edge of the really tasty 'car show parking' area.

There was an alternative route in that would not have been busy - taking the cranleigh road and then heading norht on the A281...

nick heppinstall

8,055 posts

279 months

Wednesday 27th August 2014
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Hey Zig.... I'm pretty sure the con trail you saw would not have been the Vulcan. As far as I remember the Vulcan can only fly VFR so it would not be above 10k feet.

As for the shadow.... The cloud layer could be many thousands of feet below the contrail hence moving at different speeds.

mrzigazaga

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18,534 posts

164 months

Wednesday 27th August 2014
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nick heppinstall said:
Hey Zig.... I'm pretty sure the con trail you saw would not have been the Vulcan. As far as I remember the Vulcan can only fly VFR so it would not be above 10k feet.

As for the shadow.... The cloud layer could be many thousands of feet below the contrail hence moving at different speeds.
Could be but I'm not so sure...I wish i had taken a couple more pics as the shadow moved equally as much to the left of the vapour trail and if the sun had moved that fast then i think i would of poo'd my pants!...I have a couple of pics that i took where i live as i have seen this line before, Normally a lot wider and in winter...It looks thiner but it went straight across the sky.