Hallsie ... hope it is not serious

Hallsie ... hope it is not serious

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Jack Valiant

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1,894 posts

236 months

Saturday 20th September 2014
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Stu

Heard from the guys that you broke down this morning, hope it was not serious and you got recovered ok fella yes

Chris

hallsie

2,184 posts

220 months

Sunday 21st September 2014
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So do I!!
upon initial investigations it appears that the distributor drive has given up and snapped off, which is not too sad, but Im having a bit of trouble sourcing a new dizzy at the moment.

Should be back on the road soon!

It took 4 hours from initial call to the recovery people until they got me on the back of a lorry, not happy about that!!

Stu

mrzigazaga

18,553 posts

165 months

Sunday 21st September 2014
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Glad its not too serious mate...Especially after all the hard work you have put into it...Ziga

MrPicky

1,233 posts

267 months

Monday 22nd September 2014
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My distributor drive gave up when my 390 was still in warranty, the teeth on the camshaft wheel and on the distributor drive both wore so badly that they kept jumping out of register. This happened at my first Zolder and was eventually diagnosed by Tony Abrams so the car had to be trailered home by Ronnie Vink - back to Oostende then by the AA from Dover.

The factory only bothered to change the distributor drive but did install an oil feed to specifically oil these gears. The main reason for the failure was the persistent overcooling of the oil because of the lack of a thermostat on the oil cooler - these gears also drive the oil pump.

A few months later I replaced the camshaft and changed both gears at the same time - no problems since.

So (I hope this isn't bad news) if the gear on the bottom of the dissy has worn out then the one on the camshaft has probably gone as well.

hallsie

2,184 posts

220 months

Monday 22nd September 2014
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MrPicky said:
My distributor drive gave up when my 390 was still in warranty, the teeth on the camshaft wheel and on the distributor drive both wore so badly that they kept jumping out of register. This happened at my first Zolder and was eventually diagnosed by Tony Abrams so the car had to be trailered home by Ronnie Vink - back to Oostende then by the AA from Dover.

The factory only bothered to change the distributor drive but did install an oil feed to specifically oil these gears. The main reason for the failure was the persistent overcooling of the oil because of the lack of a thermostat on the oil cooler - these gears also drive the oil pump.

A few months later I replaced the camshaft and changed both gears at the same time - no problems since.

So (I hope this isn't bad news) if the gear on the bottom of the dissy has worn out then the one on the camshaft has probably gone as well.
I HOPE IT HASNT KILLED THE CAM, ITS ONLY 1500 MILES OLD!!!

The dizzy on the other hand was the original one I think, albeit refurbed, so I think that it is the weakest link at the moment!

Stu

Jack Valiant

Original Poster:

1,894 posts

236 months

Monday 22nd September 2014
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Stu I assume this was in the Tamar not the FHC? If in the FHC then I have a dizzy somewher you can rebuild?

Chris

hallsie

2,184 posts

220 months

Monday 22nd September 2014
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Jack Valiant said:
Stu I assume this was in the Tamar not the FHC? If in the FHC then I have a dizzy somewher you can rebuild?

Chris
Hahahahahaha, yes!

The wedge FHC is in a billion powdercoated bits on the new garage carpet, awaiting new bushes and other shiny stuff to arrive.
Following that, itll be put back together and sent for paint and trimming ready for next year!!

You are welcome to come round and have a look while its in bits!

Stu

MrPicky

1,233 posts

267 months

Monday 22nd September 2014
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hallsie said:
I HOPE IT HASNT KILLED THE CAM, ITS ONLY 1500 MILES OLD!!!

The dizzy on the other hand was the original one I think, albeit refurbed, so I think that it is the weakest link at the moment!

Stu
I mean the gear at the front end of the camshaft.

Jack Valiant

Original Poster:

1,894 posts

236 months

Monday 22nd September 2014
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hallsie said:
Hahahahahaha, yes!

The wedge FHC is in a billion powdercoated bits on the new garage carpet, awaiting new bushes and other shiny stuff to arrive.
Following that, itll be put back together and sent for paint and trimming ready for next year!!

You are welcome to come round and have a look while its in bits!

Stu
OK let me know when you are around \and I will try to pop by fella

Chris

mrzigazaga

18,553 posts

165 months

Monday 22nd September 2014
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hallsie said:
You are welcome to come round and have a look while its in bits!
Mmm...A work in progress open day...Does it include tea....biggrin

adam quantrill

11,538 posts

242 months

Monday 22nd September 2014
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MrPicky said:
hallsie said:
I HOPE IT HASNT KILLED THE CAM, ITS ONLY 1500 MILES OLD!!!

Stu
I mean the gear at the front end of the camshaft.
Yeah as I recall this is detachable and on a key. So the cam shouldn't be "shafted" (sic).

The drive gears are a vulnerable point and a reason why you shouldn't go for high oil pressure all the time, they do wear.

hallsie

2,184 posts

220 months

Tuesday 23rd September 2014
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mrzigazaga said:
hallsie said:
You are welcome to come round and have a look while its in bits!
Mmm...A work in progress open day...Does it include tea....biggrin
anyone is welcome round for a look see, and perhaps a look through all of my recently powdercoated spares box for a treat or two!

I do coffee, not tea as Im crap at it, but theres always plenty of water available!! and perhaps the odd stella if you are quick!

Still haven't had time to investigate the Taimar problem......

Stu

mrzigazaga

18,553 posts

165 months

Tuesday 23rd September 2014
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hallsie said:
Ziga..Come round and have a look through all of my recently powdercoated spares box for a treat or two!

I make a lovely cup o tea, Theres always plenty of stella available if you prefer!!
Hi Stu...Thats very kind of you mate...I still have your AFM & ECU that you borrowed to Smashy...So if you are around at any point in the week i can pop it round...It would be rude of me not to have a nose through the spares box..smile

hallsie

2,184 posts

220 months

Wednesday 24th September 2014
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Bring your own biscuits tho

mrzigazaga

18,553 posts

165 months

Wednesday 24th September 2014
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hallsie said:
Bring your own biscuits tho
Rich tea or chocolate hob nobs...

hallsie

2,184 posts

220 months

Thursday 25th September 2014
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OOOOOOOOPPPPPSSSSSS!!





Jack Valiant

Original Poster:

1,894 posts

236 months

Thursday 25th September 2014
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Well if there ever was a reason to convert to a more noisey gear wheel there it is!

hallsie

2,184 posts

220 months

Thursday 25th September 2014
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My thinking cap is on, it might well go jap engine or LS or Duratec....

adam quantrill

11,538 posts

242 months

Thursday 25th September 2014
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Was that a plastic dizzy drive cog?

Fish the bits out you should be OK.

hallsie

2,184 posts

220 months

Thursday 25th September 2014
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adam quantrill said:
Was that a plastic dizzy drive cog?

Fish the bits out you should be OK.
If only...

Its the cam drive gear that's made of plastic..... who makes a gear out of plastic FFS!!!