Can anything else go wrong ?

Can anything else go wrong ?

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Wedg1e

26,805 posts

266 months

Thursday 30th April 2015
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GOG440 said:
The thermostat has been removed completely so the car runs on choke all the time.
The idle control valve has been monkeyed with and basically ruined to try and cover up the lack of 'stat
The header tank was cracked and an attempt at plastic welding it had been done. (I wonder of the stat removal was to cover up the jet of steam out of the crack as soon as the engine got up to temp!)
The breather on the rocker cover had been sprayed over and was blocked
Every single metal clip on the afm, injectors etc was missing so everything was moving when the engine was running.
The fuel return to the tank was fked, and obviously the original despite having been told "all the fuel lines have been replaced" which was obviously the first question I asked after what happened to the 280!
The handbrake had been badly bodged, the wrong pads used so they had pulled the friction material off, badly welded a nut onto the backing plate for the adjuster then glued the pad back on. And one of the pads was upside down. And Phil was amazed the handbrake had ever worked because of the random way the cable had been routed.

tbh I am amazed the car ever ran, nevermind went through 2 MOT`s and about 2k miles with me.

Really annoyed it is costing me money to sort out other peoples bodges.

Rant over, I love the car when she is running but I am a bit frustrated at the minute.
Not to diminish the fact that you have had to sort it but you're lucky that some of those things are fairly trivial and IMHO par for the course with any car that's a quarter of a century old, let alone a TVR.

The 'stat could have been stuck causing overheating, removed as a quick fix at the roadside and overlooked afterwards - probably by an owner who lost patience and sold the car sharpish.
The Capri/Granada header tanks are prone to splitting due to the reinforcing tubes in the inlet stubs being steel... so they rust, expand and split the tank. No way round it except to bin Ford tanks and use something else.
The handbrake...ah, the handbrake biggrin Never, EVER, fit cheap handbrake pads. The friction material will rip off at the slightest provocation; one time my brand new pads were wrecked by the MOT tester using the rolling road to check the handbrake.
The injection connector spring clips being absent isn't unusual; again the cause of the sort of symptoms that lead to people wailing and gnashing their teeth on here when the car doesn't run properly.
As I always say, it takes about 90% of the effort it takes to do a job properly, to bodge it.
Still, now it's sorted you can look forward to years of reliable wedging... whistle

GOG440

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9,247 posts

191 months

Tuesday 5th May 2015
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Wedg1e said:
Not to diminish the fact that you have had to sort it but you're lucky that some of those things are fairly trivial and IMHO par for the course with any car that's a quarter of a century old, let alone a TVR.

The 'stat could have been stuck causing overheating, removed as a quick fix at the roadside and overlooked afterwards - probably by an owner who lost patience and sold the car sharpish.
The Capri/Granada header tanks are prone to splitting due to the reinforcing tubes in the inlet stubs being steel... so they rust, expand and split the tank. No way round it except to bin Ford tanks and use something else.
The handbrake...ah, the handbrake biggrin Never, EVER, fit cheap handbrake pads. The friction material will rip off at the slightest provocation; one time my brand new pads were wrecked by the MOT tester using the rolling road to check the handbrake.
The injection connector spring clips being absent isn't unusual; again the cause of the sort of symptoms that lead to people wailing and gnashing their teeth on here when the car doesn't run properly.
As I always say, it takes about 90% of the effort it takes to do a job properly, to bodge it.
Still, now it's sorted you can look forward to years of reliable wedging... whistle
Not sorted yet, Phil is still chasing water leaks, every time he replaces a leaky hose another one fails!
Todays sit rep is that it needs the valley gasket changing as that is leaking now, hopefully this should be the final solution to my problems and I can actually get out and enjoy the car again.

Wedg1e

26,805 posts

266 months

Tuesday 5th May 2015
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GOG440 said:
Not sorted yet, Phil is still chasing water leaks, every time he replaces a leaky hose another one fails!
Todays sit rep is that it needs the valley gasket changing as that is leaking now, hopefully this should be the final solution to my problems and I can actually get out and enjoy the car again.
My sympathies; my car is giving me similar grief. Having had it sat idle for about 3 years whilst I've rebuilt the rear end, now the front end (largely overhauled in 2012) is problematic. Got it booked in for an MOT on Saturday so I took it up and down our private driveway a few times and found the front brakes are dragging now banghead

V8 Fettler

7,019 posts

133 months

Tuesday 5th May 2015
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Wedg1e said:
My sympathies; my car is giving me similar grief. Having had it sat idle for about 3 years whilst I've rebuilt the rear end, now the front end (largely overhauled in 2012) is problematic. Got it booked in for an MOT on Saturday so I took it up and down our private driveway a few times and found the front brakes are dragging now banghead
Dragging brakes can be eased without dismantling. A combination of brake cleaning aerosol and much stamping on the pedal can produce results.

Wedg1e

26,805 posts

266 months

Tuesday 5th May 2015
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V8 Fettler said:
Dragging brakes can be eased without dismantling. A combination of brake cleaning aerosol and much stamping on the pedal can produce results.
Indeed. I decided that the pads were worn a little further than I was happy with (just going back through the car's history file to find out when they were last changed) so new pads and fitting kit on order for tomorrow. Soon find out whether it's a stuck piston when I try to crowbar the feckers back in biggrin

ETA should have said that the PAS rack pinion seal has a slight oil weep and the ARB drop-link bushes (poxy polyurethane) are split to hell - again rolleyes
AND there's still a bloody leak from the inlet manifold area, I think the thermostat housing 'ears' keep warping allowing seepage. Bizarrely it doesn't leak once hot and at pressure but let it stand and cool and a pool of coolant collects on the valley gasket. The 'stat housing looks to be an aftermarket thing as it's chromed and the mating flange doesn't seem very thick. I have some lumps of alloy kicking about the place, might have a crack at machining a housing from solid biggrin

Edited by Wedg1e on Tuesday 5th May 23:56

GOG440

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9,247 posts

191 months

Wednesday 6th May 2015
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Wedg1e said:
GOG440 said:
Not sorted yet, Phil is still chasing water leaks, every time he replaces a leaky hose another one fails!
Todays sit rep is that it needs the valley gasket changing as that is leaking now, hopefully this should be the final solution to my problems and I can actually get out and enjoy the car again.
My sympathies; my car is giving me similar grief. Having had it sat idle for about 3 years whilst I've rebuilt the rear end, now the front end (largely overhauled in 2012) is problematic. Got it booked in for an MOT on Saturday so I took it up and down our private driveway a few times and found the front brakes are dragging now banghead
I have a suspicion mine had been sat for a while too before I bought it.
I am living in hope that the valley gasket is the end of this saga but there is a nagging doubt that I may have head gasket issues as well.

mrzigazaga

18,560 posts

166 months

Wednesday 6th May 2015
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Hope you get it sorted soon mate...These cars can be troublesome enough without having some dickbrain bodging it...Ziga

GOG440

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9,247 posts

191 months

Wednesday 6th May 2015
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mrzigazaga said:
Hope you get it sorted soon mate...These cars can be troublesome enough without having some dickbrain bodging it...Ziga
I am a bit pissed off at the minute about having to fork out to repair other peoples bodges.
I will go and have a chat with Phil tomorrow and see what the state of play is, my fund for the holland trip is disappearing rapidly frown

mrzigazaga

18,560 posts

166 months

Wednesday 6th May 2015
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GOG440 said:
I am a bit pissed off at the minute about having to fork out to repair other peoples bodges.
I will go and have a chat with Phil tomorrow and see what the state of play is, my fund for the holland trip is disappearing rapidly frown
Not good mate...I would be pissed as well ..Mine has been the opposite...I paid out 2.5K for work done on mine by a reputable TVR specialist and most of it needs re-doing...Especially the fuel dripping from the fuel rail..Don't trust any mechanic who nicks your plugs!...

Wedg1e

26,805 posts

266 months

Wednesday 6th May 2015
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Well, that's the front brakes sorted... the left-hand inboard piston was sticking. Took the caliper off, put a lump of wood in place of the pads and pressed the pedal to extend the pistons. Then removed the wood, peeled off the seals and polished off the clart with some IPA and Scotchbrite. No corrosion of the pistons as such, luckily, so used a welder's clamp to push the pistons back in, replaced wood, stood on pedal, clean pistons, repeat until no more cack evident. Replaced caliper, refitted wheel and Roberto is your Italian auntie's sibling.

V8 Fettler

7,019 posts

133 months

Thursday 7th May 2015
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I know Northern beer is different, but can you really use IPA as a solvent?

GOG440

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9,247 posts

191 months

Thursday 7th May 2015
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mrzigazaga said:
GOG440 said:
I am a bit pissed off at the minute about having to fork out to repair other peoples bodges.
I will go and have a chat with Phil tomorrow and see what the state of play is, my fund for the holland trip is disappearing rapidly frown
Not good mate...I would be pissed as well ..Mine has been the opposite...I paid out 2.5K for work done on mine by a reputable TVR specialist and most of it needs re-doing...Especially the fuel dripping from the fuel rail..Don't trust any mechanic who nicks your plugs!...
Ouch
Thats pretty poor them nicking your plugs!

My valley gasket was the original tin one and looked manky, so hopefully once Phil has changed it and some of the manky old hoses we can see if that sorts the last of the leaks.

mrzigazaga

18,560 posts

166 months

Thursday 7th May 2015
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Hopefully mate its just stuff that needs doing anyway..Shame someone attempted it before and had to "Bodge it"..A quick fix is never fixed!..At least its getting done correctly now...smile

Did you sort the pas pump out?

Wedg1e

26,805 posts

266 months

Thursday 7th May 2015
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V8 Fettler said:
I know Northern beer is different, but can you really use IPA as a solvent?
Might as well; I always say IPA stands for It's P*** Awful biggrin

mrzigazaga

18,560 posts

166 months

Thursday 7th May 2015
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Wedg1e said:
V8 Fettler said:
I know Northern beer is different, but can you really use IPA as a solvent?
Might as well; I always say IPA stands for It's P*** Awful biggrin
laugh

GOG440

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9,247 posts

191 months

Thursday 7th May 2015
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mrzigazaga said:
Did you sort the pas pump out?
I think it was looked after by "bodgitt and scarper"

I havent done anything about the pas pump yet, too many other things need sorting.
PM me what you want for it though, Phil reckons it will be close enough

GOG440

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9,247 posts

191 months

Saturday 9th May 2015
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It seems that most of these bodges I have been paying to be put right were done to cover upthe fact that a head gasket has gone. frown

Not a happy bunny at the moment, I have had to cancel my trip to Holland as Phil would have struggled to get it done in time and TBH I cant afford to go now as this will have eaten up all my Holland fund.


B@man

1,486 posts

205 months

Saturday 9th May 2015
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That does explain the missing thermostat doesn't it - tts !!

GOG440

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9,247 posts

191 months

Saturday 9th May 2015
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B@man said:
That does explain the missing thermostat doesn't it - tts !!
Really really pissed off about this.

The weirdest thing though is that it actually ran well seemed to have plenty of power etc, I only asked Phil to have a look as it smelled like it was over fuelling and the tickover was a bit high and the fuel economy was even more tragic than I thought it ought to be.

mrzigazaga

18,560 posts

166 months

Saturday 9th May 2015
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I know its no consolation at the minute mate but at least you are doing the right thing and doing it properly and not spouting st to everyone else...Im not going to open up old wounds but i was accused of bodging on a "Shoestring" but the proof was there for all to see that i did it properly...Its bks really but there is always next year mate...I hope you are still coming to the fest as we can have a laugh and forget the shyte...

By the way there is no private collections allowed at the fest and if people do want to display then its £25 per car per day to charity...Sorry new regs....smile

They are of course welcome to park among us..Any historically viable vehicle will be allowed to be shown....Oh and anybody pitching up gazebos or flags will find them in the bin on the way out...biggrin