Bosch K-onfusion

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Stog

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169 posts

127 months

Friday 22nd May 2015
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Hi folks, im trying to get my poor wedge back on the road for the summer. I'm halfway through a complete rewire and it's going well except for one wee snag. I'm using the black loom wiring diagram from the bible and it has a safety switch / air sensor that I can't find. I'm assuming it should be somewhere on my air flapper to cut the fuel supply if the engine stalls. I've pulled out my fuel distributor and gone over it a half dozen times trying to find anywhere an electrical connector might attach but there's nothing.
Now I know there was a new engine put in this car and I've no idea what it came out of, is it possible that it came from a car that uses a different safety system or did all Bosch k systems use the same switch?
Any thoughts?

Wedg1e

26,798 posts

265 months

Friday 22nd May 2015
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As I recall, my Tasmin had such a connector, it was on the airbox.
You could just stick a link in it for test purposes whistle

Stog

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169 posts

127 months

Friday 22nd May 2015
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Wedg1e said:
As I recall, my Tasmin had such a connector, it was on the airbox.
You could just stick a link in it for test purposes whistle
It looks like that's what a previous owner did smile

Edited by Stog on Friday 22 May 16:25

mrzigazaga

18,552 posts

165 months

Friday 22nd May 2015
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Hi mate...Not sure if the Sierra had them..Mine used to have a green two pin connector plug on the metering unit housing..Just under where the rubber cap connects to the air intake pipe.
If someone has used a later metering unit then its possible that it wasn't fitted with the fuel cut off....I used to run mine without it as it would start a lot quicker without it...Ziga

Stog

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127 months

Friday 22nd May 2015
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The green plug was dangling off the loom but there's nowhere to connect it smile
I guess I'll just leave it out. As its there in case of a leaking fuel pipe added to the fact I found a small crack in one of them today maybe it's time to replace them. It was on my list anyway, it looks as though the fuel lines from the distributor were grafted on to wider lines going to the injectors. Are these fuel lines a standard size?

MJG280

722 posts

259 months

Friday 22nd May 2015
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I remember trying to sort this in the distant past The green plug was disconnected as it wouldn't start otherwise. The bluish coloured bit at lower centre is the socket.

Stog

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169 posts

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Friday 22nd May 2015
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MJG280 said:
I remember trying to sort this in the distant past The green plug was disconnected as it wouldn't start otherwise. The bluish coloured bit at lower centre is the socket.
Just had another look, definitely nothing there. By the sounds of it I might be better off without smile

Edited by Stog on Friday 22 May 22:41

mrzigazaga

18,552 posts

165 months

Friday 22nd May 2015
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Hi mate...The plastic high pressure fuel pipes are 6mm i believe with a 4mm ID...There was a kit for Ferrari that was a press fit plastic hose kit..Not sure if they are still available, I did see a 280i at a Wedgefest with steel fuel hoses made and have seen a Capri with a Goodrirdge custom copper/Alloy...
I have some left over from my 280i days and can probably get some from the Ford garage if you need them..I have welded a split with an old piece of the same fuel line..I cut a small section and grafted it over with a soldering iron..It sorted it for good...

Here was a forum discussing the options...
https://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=...

GBinUSA

222 posts

124 months

Saturday 23rd May 2015
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Thanks for posting those dimensions Zig, been research replacing those myself. If you google....

Fuel line tubing cis

You get a whole bunch of info on sourcing the lines. Lots of Porsche, Ferrari, DeLorean owners going through similar pains.

Stog

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169 posts

127 months

Saturday 23rd May 2015
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Nice one Zig! I'll have a look under the bonnet tomorrow and see what needs replacing.

Wedg1e

26,798 posts

265 months

Saturday 23rd May 2015
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From what I recall, the later version of the 2.8 injection system used a module that sampled the ignition pulses and used that info to control the fuel pump - in much the same way that the V8's injection won't inject if the ignition's not working properly.

Stog

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169 posts

127 months

Saturday 23rd May 2015
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Wedg1e said:
From what I recall, the later version of the 2.8 injection system used a module that sampled the ignition pulses and used that info to control the fuel pump - in much the same way that the V8's injection won't inject if the ignition's not working properly.
In the bible there's also mention of a purple / cream special relay but I've neither of those. Any idea what the module looks like? If I had a wiring diagram for an alternative I'd retro fit it. I imagine it would take longer to start the engine if the fuel pump didn't run until the coil was firing. At the moment the pump just starts up when the ignition is in the first position.

Wedg1e

26,798 posts

265 months

Sunday 24th May 2015
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Stog said:
At the moment the pump just starts up when the ignition is in the first position.
Aye, it would do if the airflow meter connector is linked out.
I thought the fuel pump module was either green or pink but it's been a long time...


Stog

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169 posts

127 months

Sunday 24th May 2015
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Here's my current relay setup smile I'm in the process of building a nice new one.

Stog

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169 posts

127 months

Sunday 24th May 2015
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I'm not sure what the little thing on the bottom left is, says otter on it?

mrzigazaga

18,552 posts

165 months

Sunday 24th May 2015
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Stog said:
I'm not sure what the little thing on the bottom left is, says otter on it?
Could be a headlamp diode..I had something similar on the 280i..Mine was attached to the rad upright support on the N/S..And was white-ish...

Stog

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169 posts

127 months

Sunday 24th May 2015
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Could be zig, I'll test it out of curiosity but I've nice new diodes to put in smile

wedgemaniac456

244 posts

150 months

Sunday 24th May 2015
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Always thought an otter switch was to do with a cooling fan but could be wrong rolleyes .I have an old wiring loom on my 280i which has that green plug,plus all associated fuses etc.Prob not going to use them if you need something stephen.

Stog

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169 posts

127 months

Sunday 24th May 2015
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wedgemaniac456 said:
Always thought an otter switch was to do with a cooling fan but could be wrong rolleyes .I have an old wiring loom on my 280i which has that green plug,plus all associated fuses etc.Prob not going to use them if you need something stephen.
Thanks Sean, I've most of the new wiring in now and I'm replacing absolutely everything I can with new parts but if I can't source anything I'll give you a shout. When I get it back on the road we'll have to meet up for a burn smile
One thing you might be able to help me with if you have an old loom, I'm a bit stumped with the wiring to the motorcraft module. According to the wiring diagram in the bible the red wire goes to the starter solenoid but every other wiring diagram I can find on the web white one does. Do you know where your white or red wire go?

Wedg1e

26,798 posts

265 months

Monday 25th May 2015
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Stog said:
I'm not sure what the little thing on the bottom left is, says otter on it?
Thermal cut-out for the rear screen demister.