Wedge Under Bonnet Pics

Wedge Under Bonnet Pics

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John042

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892 posts

169 months

Sunday 26th July 2015
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Hi All. I wonder if anyone could help with some under bonnet photos? I'm still in the process of re-assembling my 1984 2.8i Wedge. The engine is in, but I've got boxes of bits from the previous owner. confused Most are hopefully from my car; he was a hoarder.laugh Basically it is the layout of coolant pipes, mounting for the power steering pump/alternator and the injection system. I know what should go where,eek but with boxes of brackets, odd pipes and parts from an efi injection system it's a bit of a puzzle. My mate had the cheek to sell his, the new owner exporting it before I had a chance to get to it.mad Incidentally are Wedges becoming attractive to overseas buyers? I know of 3 that have left UK. Any help would be great, thankyou. John C

mrzigazaga

18,551 posts

165 months

Sunday 26th July 2015
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Hi mate

Here is one of most of the hoses...


In this pic i swapped the Capri PAS pump and bracket over from where it was a type similar to that of the V8's..I think it was a Montego fitment originally..The brackets are different.


Can you post up pics of the brackets?

John042

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892 posts

169 months

Sunday 26th July 2015
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To the rescue again Zig, thanks. I'm away from my house at the moment but will, on my return, root around the boxes and see if any look familiar. The fuel filter was left in situ' bolted onto the nearside wing with the fuel delivery pipe protruding out from the inner wing meaning that the fuel distributor was mounted at the nearside front? I think it's complete except the large square inlet must have fitted onto a filter housing? Happy day or what? Cheers Mate. John C.

Wedg1e

26,798 posts

265 months

Sunday 26th July 2015
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John042 said:
Incidentally are Wedges becoming attractive to overseas buyers? I know of 3 that have left UK. Any help would be great, thankyou. John C
Certain countries in Europe have difficult legislation for kit car and 'specials' builders, it's a lot easier for them to start with an existing chassis so it's likely some Wedges are heading over there to be rebodied as Cobras etc. rolleyes

marcus1875

1,512 posts

142 months

Sunday 26th July 2015
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Hi, heres a couple of old snaps from mine, not as bling as Delilah though. If you like I'll take specific shots of different areas if you let me know which parts. (Wont see it till friday though, unless you want them urgently in which case i'll go up to the unit on tuesday night.)
Marcus


John042

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892 posts

169 months

Monday 27th July 2015
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Hi, thanks Zig, Wedg1e and marcus1875. Can't open your pics marcus, at work, firewalls etc. As Zig suggests I'll taks some pics of what I've got and go from there. A preliminary look revealed a tension bracket hanging off a redunant timing cover!! What else will turn up?laugh Cheers John C.

John042

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892 posts

169 months

Tuesday 28th July 2015
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Hi Zig, Wedg1e & marcus1875 here's a shot of the brackets I've found so far. The pwr steering pump looks as if it's got the original bracket still fitted? The others I assume are tensioning brackets for the alternator? Hope the pics OK? Connected to the fuel distributor there is a large square inlet covered by a wire mesh, as yet I've found no air filter box to connect it to. Thanks again for the pics. John C.

mrzigazaga

18,551 posts

165 months

Tuesday 28th July 2015
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Hi mate...Obviously the large one with the PAS pump is for the PAS although that bracket is for the Capri style pump..The two with slots in look like alternator but I'm not sure what the small triangle shape plate is..There should be a belt tensioner..Looks like a pulley on a squarish bar that has a slot in it....Im a bit confused as regards to the square mesh thing on the fuel distributor...Can you take a pic of that please mate...

marcus1875

1,512 posts

142 months

Tuesday 28th July 2015
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My alternator has the smaller of the two slotted tensioners shown in the pic. I have the triangler piece as well, but for the life of me cannot recall where i put it.
Doesn't the wire mesh sit behind the air filter box somewhere?
I'll take some pics of my set up on Friday.
Marcus

John042

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892 posts

169 months

Wednesday 29th July 2015
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Thanks again Zig & marcus1875. I guessed, as you, the slotted brackets are alternator tensioners, the pump, I'm hoping has the original fitment brackets as it came off. No idler tension pulleys? The fuel distributor assembly; I will post up a photo. The square inlet to the air control flap must have mounted onto a air filter housing of some sort. That I've yet to find.laugh Cheers John C.

John042

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892 posts

169 months

Wednesday 29th July 2015
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Hi all. Pic of the fuel distributor and air take?? Also the cover on the right is that a shroud for ignition distributor? Unfortunately there isn't any sort of airbox/filter assembly in the parts I received. Thanks again for any help. John C.

mrzigazaga

18,551 posts

165 months

Wednesday 29th July 2015
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Hi John...That filter housing has been modified as the other half of it is missing so they have used some mesh to hold the filter in place...Bad design...It sucks all the hot air in from the engine...I modified mine by making a stainless steel box and then fitting the air filter in the nose cone...Not too low down as it get filthy ...Havent got a clue what the other bit is..Are you sure it has anything to do with cars?....

You have to make sure that the air intake equates to 3".....

John042

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892 posts

169 months

Thursday 30th July 2015
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Nice one Zig.laughlaughThe other bit looks like it might be off a hair dryer with little clips around the sides?? Anyway, the square inlet housing attached to the fuel distributor is quite large (10"x 5") and only has a course wire mesh. I guess this originally attached to a similar sized air box which contained an air filter? The inlet pipe (3") which connects to the inlet manifold looks standard, whether I can disconnect the box assembly from the fuel distributor and fit another 3" pipe to a simple cone type filter remains to be investigated. It's certainly a strange set up. confused
Cheers John C.

mrzigazaga

18,551 posts

165 months

Thursday 30th July 2015
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Hi John...Yes there should of been a large black square box that the filter sits in and then a squashed air intake pipe normally sits right next to the rad breathing in hot air...Mine had a fuel cooler on it to compensate...Although TBH that did diddly squat!..I think the original design was from a Capri.

There is a recess on the underside of the metering head housing and i had a box made up that it sat on and was sealed with automotive mastic...It was a vast improvement.

I will dig the pic of the box out in a bit.....

John042

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892 posts

169 months

Thursday 30th July 2015
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Thanks Zig. Update, I've managed to aquire a secondhand Capri air box, the part you mentioned. Hopefully it will fit and I can fabricate an inlet to duct cool air into the box. Cheers again, John042.

marcus1875

1,512 posts

142 months

Friday 31st July 2015
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Here's a pic of the triangular shaped bracket. It looks slightly different from the one you have, but that may be the angle of the pic.

This is a general snap of my alternator set up.
Let me know if you need any more pics. I'll be painting the chassis tomorrow so plenty of time to take a pic or two.
Marcus

John042

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892 posts

169 months

Saturday 1st August 2015
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Great Marcus. I've found that bracket on top of the alternator hanging on an earth lead in yet another box marked "trim"laugh Super pic, can I take you up on the kind offer and ask you for a pic of the steering pump belt run please? I've found an idler pulley mounted on a bracket, would this be the tensioning pulley for the pump belt?
Zig, the saga of the fuel distributor goes on as the Capri air box doesn't fit my fuel distributor. Fortunately Capri international, John, is willing to split a unit up and sell the adaptor plate so I can fit the Capri air box. Then a simple mod to duct cool air into the system. Yesterday I fitted the fuel filter and connected the fuel ditributor up and ran fuel through into a container. Happy days, it came through clean with no bits.clapclap so progress I hope? Cheers Mates for the advice and pics, it's helping no end to the "Jigsaw" of parts I've have. Cheers John C.

mrzigazaga

18,551 posts

165 months

Saturday 1st August 2015
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Whoops sorry mate...Im sure mine was Capri mk3...Its was the same as Marcus has..

John042

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892 posts

169 months

Saturday 1st August 2015
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No problem Zig, but more info' needed again. Am I losing the plot?confused I thought today I will attempt to mount the alternator since Marcus kindly sent detailed pics of his set up. Well as you can see from the attached I've got a similar bracket but will it fit, no. The alternator is resting on the steering shaft. There appears no way it would fit. Above the the steering shaft the bracket which bolts to the exhaust flange is about 3" to high if that makes sense. There appears no room to mount the alternator below the shaft. Are there different brackets which would bring the alternator higher up away from the steering shaft? Also I've included another pic of what looks like a tensioning idler pulley? Power steering perhaps? In amongst my gloom there's one problem solved, the oil pressure gauge is a direct reading one. Fitted to the block was a electrical sender which led me to assume there must be a connection somewhere.furious Spent ages looking for a cable which didn't exist! So one step forward I think.Thanks again for any help. John C.


mrzigazaga

18,551 posts

165 months

Saturday 1st August 2015
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Hi mate...I found a couple of pics in my bookmark dept on here of Delilahs alternator bracket...I have seen three different ways that they were mounted...
Here is a pic with some of the fixing locations on the cologne.

Although my PAS pump was fitted to the alternator bracket as well.

In this pic i had fitted a Capri PAS pump on the opposite side as getting to No.1 plug was a bloody nightmare...I will see if i can find a pic of the original PAS pump...