Headlight Lifting Mechanism

Headlight Lifting Mechanism

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John042

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892 posts

169 months

Sunday 15th November 2015
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Hi info needed please. Just turned my attention to the headlights during my rebuild and I'm missing a part.eek The passenger side pod does not have the short connecting rod from the motor to the rose jointed adjustable arm. It looks as if it must have a square hole which attaches to the lift motor drive, the other end bolted to the rose jointed lever. A TR7 part looks similar but is listed by Rimmers as not available. Short of making one, is there any other source please? Can't understand why the previous owner kept all the other linkage but not this one arm. Thanks for any help. J C.

marcus1875

1,512 posts

142 months

Sunday 15th November 2015
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I might have a spare. If you can wait till Friday, i'll check then when i'm next at the wedge cave.
Marcus

John042

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892 posts

169 months

Monday 16th November 2015
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Great, thanks Marcus. Can't really understand why that part is missing given that the previous owner "collected" and boxed all the parts over 14 years! More curious was the lump of wood wedge inside the nearside pod?? The motor assembly I found in the boot and when power applied does seem to work. As I said Marcus I've got the adjustable link rod but not the short link from that to the motor. I'm assuming it must have a square hole on one end to fit onto the motor drive shaft, the other end a pin which locates into the adjustable link? Are they handed by any chance?? If you manage to find one Marcus that would be great as I think supply could be a problem. Obviously beer tokens would be forthcoming. Many thanks in anticipation. Cheers John C.

TVRleigh_BBWR

6,552 posts

213 months

Monday 16th November 2015
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From memory they are a bent flat bar, with a round hole with flats sides that fits on the motor.

marcus1875

1,512 posts

142 months

Monday 16th November 2015
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No probs, it'll be Friday till I can check so I'll drop you a line then. I'm pretty sure I have one, I don't recall them being handed, and yes the motor fitting has flat sides to fit on the motor.

Marcus

KKson

3,403 posts

125 months

Monday 16th November 2015
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Had mine apart the other day fitting a new motor. This is what it looks like.


John042

Original Poster:

892 posts

169 months

Monday 16th November 2015
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Thanks Leigh/Marcus. Hopefully I'll be able to rebuild the pod providing the motor is functioning correctly. Perhaps the wood was a modification?laugh As I don't think the headlight flashing system works. However was it fitted to the 2.8i 1983 models? Cheers J C.

KKson

3,403 posts

125 months

Monday 16th November 2015
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Neither of my Wedges (1986 390SE or 1988 350i) have flashing headlights unless the pods are already raised for dipped headlights.

marcus1875

1,512 posts

142 months

Monday 16th November 2015
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Mine's flash (when they work that is). It's a 1982 2.8i. I might have an old TR7 (I'm sure they used the same motor) set in my hut, I'll double check that tonight.

Marcus

marcus1875

1,512 posts

142 months

Monday 16th November 2015
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I meant to say that mines fit differently from Keith's. Keith's motors are attached to the engine bay wall in the pod, while mines are attached to the floor. if you go onto youtube look for my channel, tvrMarcus1875, there are a couple of pod videos. One showing the flash, and the other showing the access holes I have, this one also shows briefly at the end the motor itself and you can just make out the bracket John is missing. (Plus there are a few other TVR ids there as well if your bored!)
Marcus

John042

Original Poster:

892 posts

169 months

Monday 16th November 2015
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Thanks Keith for the informative pic. Judging from that I think I have all the bits except for the arm from the motor. Marcus, my mate at work has just informed me he thinks he's got a pod assembly from a TR7. If so, I'll see in the next couple of days what he turns up with.cool but will let you know, reference your very kind offer. Did I read some where that the headlight flash operation was not fitted on early Tasmins or 2.8i's? Only operating when the lights were raised? Again thanks for the detail pic Keith and Marcus for the offer. Cheers John C.

RCK974X

2,521 posts

149 months

Monday 16th November 2015
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Background info -

Most BL cars used cables/wires for their wiper systems, but Ford and others also used solid links/bars ...The bar system typically uses a crank lever which looks generically very like the Wedge one.


I think that the crank on the wedge motor is actually off a solid bar wiper system, and is in fact off a Hillman Hunter, or is a very close cousin .....

Can't confirm this, but it may be of use to someone.

My 1982 has a separate flash which works, and raises the pods, but it's wired to the ignition.....so only when engine running

adam quantrill

11,538 posts

242 months

Monday 16th November 2015
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The lump of wood was obviously to prop up the pod for the MoT.

marcus1875

1,512 posts

142 months

Monday 16th November 2015
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Yup Andy I agree. My flash only works with ignition on.
I opened a Spitfire wiper motor for bits to fix my Wedge wiper motor, the only difference from the pod motor was it missed the manual raising knob and the internal raising screw. The actual motor was identical.
Let me know how you get on with your mate, i've none in the hut so they are defo in the wedge cave.
Marcus

John042

Original Poster:

892 posts

169 months

Tuesday 17th November 2015
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Cheers all. I've not really investigated the flash function on my car yet, only that one headlight seems to work OK without a flash function. The other modified with the "Wooden special fit!" Interesting about the Hillman Hunter motor assembly.cool My mates a hoarder, I don't think he even knows what he's buried under his various ongoing projects.eek The column switch does have the spring loaded position for headlight flashing but that maybe the generic design of the switch? I was surprized to find under the centre console, after modifing the steering column bulkhead bush, a LED generator for switch lighting. In 1984? Not that effective I hasten to add. What else will I find?? Cheers again all. John C.

KKson

3,403 posts

125 months

Tuesday 17th November 2015
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There are a couple of TR7 headlamps on flea at the moment. From the pictures the mechanism is similar to the Wedges but it doesn't look identical?

marcus1875

1,512 posts

142 months

Tuesday 17th November 2015
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Hi, that's the ones. They are identical, at least they were identical to the blown ones originally in mine.

Marcus

RCK974X

2,521 posts

149 months

Tuesday 17th November 2015
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(Hillman Hunter comment)....

Oops, what I meant was, yes they are TR7 assemblies, but the motor arm looks the same as a few solid bar wiper systems, the Hunter being one of them.....

Just the motor and the arm and rod assy was used in wedge, all the other castings and mounting brackets are of no use.

The motor itself is the same as nearly all the two speed Lucas wiper motors. (apart from manual knob on the bottom of course)

Even the top casting is the same as the solid rod style, with an extra spacer piece for the double switch setup, and a 'standard' top cover. This is why other car makes can provide useful spares.....there's a lot that is probably interchangeable.



Edited by RCK974X on Tuesday 17th November 20:56

John042

Original Poster:

892 posts

169 months

Wednesday 18th November 2015
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Thanks Andy. When I get the arm from my mates "emporium" this weekend I'll attempt to assemble the pod to see if I've got a functioning motor. I hope the reason for the lump of wood was to keep the pod up for an MOT; the motor left in the boot because of the missing arm. confused There's definitely life in the motor when connected, here's hoping. J C.

John042

Original Poster:

892 posts

169 months

Saturday 21st November 2015
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Further update. A TR7/8 arm doesn't quite fit. The pin which the adjustable arm attaches to is just too short, so the circlip can't be fitted , Bu**ercry Could possible be mod'd but could result in failure. Here's hoping Marcus can help? JC.