Curious Project - 1990 TVR Tasmin 460 SE

Curious Project - 1990 TVR Tasmin 460 SE

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ukkid35

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6,171 posts

173 months

Wednesday 13th April 2016
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Can't find any mention on PH of a Black 460 SE. No affiliation whatsoever, might be of interest.

http://www.wyleshardy.com/details_single.asp?pge=2...

mrzigazaga

18,553 posts

165 months

Wednesday 13th April 2016
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That needs some loving!...I recognise the number plate...Maybe at a Wedgefest?...I have only ever seen another 460SE badged Wedge and that was dark green...

drak ula

455 posts

174 months

Wednesday 13th April 2016
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oooh i like that, lovely in black, but i notice the plenum looks like it says 3.9. do they all day that or has someone either made up a badge for the boot or nicked the 4.6 motor and chucked a range rover 3.9 in it?

Wedg1e

26,800 posts

265 months

Thursday 14th April 2016
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You have that and I'll take the Eclat behind it wink

Could be a bitsa engine, maybe started life as a 3.9 and was bored/stroked to 4.6 (Rimmers used to do a kit)... maybe when it was built Landrover themselves weren't building a 4.6 so the plenum was taken from a 3.9. If, but, maybe...;)

Rockettvr

1,804 posts

143 months

Thursday 14th April 2016
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Did a check on the mot check site as mentioned in another post


Nothing too major till the last item re:chassis corrosion. Since 10 years has since elapsed id be very concerned about the condition of the chassis nowfrown
Still tempted to have a look though - I like my wedges in dark colours - what's the worst that could happen?? smile

mrzigazaga

18,553 posts

165 months

Thursday 14th April 2016
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Hi Ron...Thanks for posting that one..It just shows that the MOT station they took it to obviously don't know shyte about TVR's...They are supposed to have slight play in the wheel bearing..Do them right up and see what happens...FFS!..

B@man

1,486 posts

204 months

Thursday 14th April 2016
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Hmm hood and interior look better than mine !!

Grady

1,221 posts

260 months

Thursday 14th April 2016
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Did a quick PH search as I too remembered some discussion of a 460. The story intertwines with a couple of 460 SEACs but I found this comment interesting from a thread titled Arabian 460 SEAC:



Of course the links are dead and I suspect there were more pictures. Looks to be in fairly good condition from the pictures (well, not the dash). Grady

Edited by Grady on Thursday 14th April 20:09

Type 49

186 posts

207 months

Monday 18th April 2016
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Viewed and rejected.

Badly rusted outriggers, engine has blue smoke emanating, interior looks like someone has peed on the seats and the veneer is either peeling, peeled or crazed. Sounds too loud to pass an MOT. Time has not been kind to it.

mrzigazaga

18,553 posts

165 months

Monday 18th April 2016
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Type 49 said:
Viewed and rejected.

Badly rusted outriggers, engine has blue smoke emanating, interior looks like someone has peed on the seats and the veneer is either peeling, peeled or crazed. Sounds too loud to pass an MOT. Time has not been kind to it.
Thanks for the heads up mate...Another sad story...Probably get scrapped albeit all fixable issues...

Cheers

Ziga

Rockettvr

1,804 posts

143 months

Monday 18th April 2016
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Evening all
Thanks for the info Type 49
Made some inquiries myself today. The guy on the other end of the phone wasn't so revealing of its condition frown
Still thinking of taking a look as even with the faults mentioned its still salvageable - would be a shame to see it broken
Any pointers on price - was trying to get the guy to open up about what they were looking for but it seems it's a blind auction of sorts - I make an offer and they consider it - but wont say if they've had other offers or what they were or when they're going to end the sale ????
I've got an early finish tomorrow so will probably go and have a look on my way home.
Report to follow tomorrow evening....

mrzigazaga

18,553 posts

165 months

Monday 18th April 2016
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I would of thought max 2K...Thats going by the report of the engine which will need a rebuild by the sound of it...£1500
Outriggers can be done for less than £1000 if you know what you are doing or know someone else who does....Interior re-trim...(Ziga special deal) 700-800..(Inc seats)....Hood £250.

Say another £1000 for replacing hoses, Bushes..Serviceable's...


Actually just had another look at the ad...The interior is not that bad...New carpet and a re-fresh of vinyl and leather...£100...If the engine is what is advertised..Needs a clean up....Bit of Ziga bling £100....The hoods okay...Probably 3-3.5K...Sounds reasonable...

Perhaps the reason for sale is the rear wheel bearings needing doing...That can put a lot of people off along with outriggers....Unless you know how to do them or know someone who can...smile

Could be a good little project......



Edited by mrzigazaga on Sunday 21st August 15:42

Wedg1e

26,800 posts

265 months

Tuesday 19th April 2016
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mrzigazaga said:
Perhaps the reason for sale is the rear wheel bearings needing doing...That can put a lot of people off along with outriggers....Unless you know how to do them or know someone who can...smile

Could be a good little project......
You buy it, I'll do the outriggers smile Wheel bearings, piece of piddle.

mike various

234 posts

121 months

Tuesday 19th April 2016
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Rockettvr

If you are going to look at it i'll be interested in what you say about it.
I've had a look on Wickipedia and can't find any trace of a 460SE, so is it a 3.9 that's had a conversion ?
If you can check the paperwork i'd appreciate it.

Can i be cheeky and get you to have a quick look at the Porsche 928, i'm a few hours away so can just pop down to have a look.

Thanks

Mike

mrzigazaga

18,553 posts

165 months

Tuesday 19th April 2016
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Wedg1e said:
mrzigazaga said:
Perhaps the reason for sale is the rear wheel bearings needing doing...That can put a lot of people off along with outriggers....Unless you know how to do them or know someone who can...smile

Could be a good little project......
You buy it, I'll do the outriggers smile Wheel bearings, piece of piddle.
I would mate if i had some spare cash....Id tidy up the interior and engine bay..Not bling bling just clean....smile

scratchchin...Could sell Poppy.....

Rockettvr

1,804 posts

143 months

Tuesday 19th April 2016
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mike various said:
Rockettvr

If you are going to look at it i'll be interested in what you say about it.
I've had a look on Wickipedia and can't find any trace of a 460SE, so is it a 3.9 that's had a conversion ?
If you can check the paperwork i'd appreciate it.

Can i be cheeky and get you to have a quick look at the Porsche 928, i'm a few hours away so can just pop down to have a look.

Thanks

Mike
Hi mike
Think its a 400 that's either been bored out or had a later 4.6 swapped in
Guy on phone said that its had a lot of work on it too but if its puffing blue smoke as reported by type 49 it could need major investment to get it up to snuff
Will take a look at the porker -
Not too clued up on those - is there anything in particular to check ???
Cheers Ron


mike various

234 posts

121 months

Tuesday 19th April 2016
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I was thinking about the TVR to save it from the scrap heap, to be honest i don't need the TVR as i have already got two of them !!!. (A 350SE and a 350 FHC that needs restoring)

Porsche wise im not too clued up on them myself, if you could just see if it starts up okay and have a quick look at the body for rust and the interior to see what condition it's in.

I'm thinking that if it's okay it could be a quick refresh up and sell to provide funds for the TVR restoration.

Thanks

Mike

ukkid35

Original Poster:

6,171 posts

173 months

Tuesday 19th April 2016
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Rockettvr said:
Will take a look at the porker -
Not too clued up on those - is there anything in particular to check ???
Cheers Ron
It's an Auto, so flexplate preload could have caused thrust bearing failure. Essential to check end float before committing otherwise block is possibly scrap.

pac1uk

268 posts

191 months

Tuesday 19th April 2016
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I did some checks on the TVR, its had 7 former keeps, the last change in 2004. No MOT for several years. I think it was originally a 400SE, then someone did the engine upgrade.

No write off or crash damage recorded.

It looks complete from the pictures. Looks like its been neglected. It would be real shame to see it broken for spares. I was really tempted but it requires too much work for me to restore back to A1.

Porsche prices are rising, they have Galvanised panels to help protect against rust but if its neglected its not going to help.

adam quantrill

11,538 posts

242 months

Tuesday 19th April 2016
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A little smoke from the engine could be something simple:

a) flame trap or breather gallery needs cleaning out
b) rocker cover seals leaking
c) valve guide oil seals have disintegrated (this usually only manifests on startup and can be ignored if it disappears when warm)
d) brake master leaking fluid into the intake under vacuum.

Do a compression test when warmed up - any suspiciously low readings (compared with the others) could mean cracked rings, and excessive blowby.

Anyway since when did cracked veneer, peed on seats and a little rust on the outriggers mean a scrapping?