Any ideas on value? Tasmin Stiener 450
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gmw9666 said:
Skyedriver said:
A bargain or rose tinted Zig...
Clay bar won't make two different shades of red the same.
Suggest a full respray to remove some of the other stuff as well may be the best in the long run
Are you expecting minty body work on a 5k tvr? Think it's good value Clay bar won't make two different shades of red the same.
Suggest a full respray to remove some of the other stuff as well may be the best in the long run
What I was saying was the body needed more than a clay as there were two different shades of red there
Skyedriver said:
What I was saying was the body needed more than a clay as there were two different shades of red there
Definitely...But i would want to make sure the rest of it is sound..Mainly the engine ...Chassis and drivetrain....Body work and interior as easily sorted..The bonnet could be sprayed and the front blown over...Would think it would need a complete re-spray though?...Yes the wheels are wrong and the spoiler is not right for that model...The badging is hideous...I remember leaving my 280i with Power Engineering for a few days so they could make all the superchargers pipework...When i picked her up there were alloy name plates on the supercharger..Inner wing and plenum...I ordered them to remove them...I let them leave the one on the supercharger.....If someone had stuck hideous stickers all over it i would tell them to take em off el pronto...
Personally i don't think it is over priced...
mrzigazaga said:
Skyedriver said:
What I was saying was the body needed more than a clay as there were two different shades of red there
Definitely...But i would want to make sure the rest of it is sound..Mainly the engine ...Chassis and drivetrain....Body work and interior as easily sorted..The bonnet could be sprayed and the front blown over...Would think it would need a complete re-spray though?...Yes the wheels are wrong and the spoiler is not right for that model...The badging is hideous...I remember leaving my 280i with Power Engineering for a few days so they could make all the superchargers pipework...When i picked her up there were alloy name plates on the supercharger..Inner wing and plenum...I ordered them to remove them...I let them leave the one on the supercharger.....If someone had stuck hideous stickers all over it i would tell them to take em off el pronto...
Personally i don't think it is over priced...
Having similar discussions on the LotusExcel.net site as there are suddenly 7 "project cars" in various stages of disrepair (one still tied to a breakdown truck) at prices that, when you add the full cost of restoration, are not financially viable at the price good cars are currently selling for.
It has always been the case that it is better (financially) to buy a fully restored car rather than do the restoration yourself. Only get out here is that you buy a project car and spend on it with the possibility that it will increase in market value should you decide to sell or you do it simply because you enjoy restoration and it keeps you out of the pub.
I'm not for one minute suggesting that you/I/we should be making money here just stating financial sensibility.
Skyedriver said:
At around £4k you have a little cash spare to cover the re-spray.
Then assuming it really is OK underneath and the MoT was done by someone who knows these cars then sounds a deal worth thinking about.
True but in reality albeit a right PITA if the outriggers are shot the sills can be removed and replaced for around £500 a pair..Id be more interested in making sure the clutch was okay..Any oil leaks..More often then not they weep at the top gearbox seal...Front diff seal...This should not be bigger than 15mm OD of diff oil max...And no gearbox or engine oil on the floor....If you can get it up in the air then have a good a look as you can at the outriggers...You can only see so much with a torch...Its still a gamble...Mainly check for any cracks in the tube joins especially around the diff cradle area..Upright ladder brace to lower A frame members and front suspension mounts...Most of the bushes are probably on their 9th life and will need doing at some point...As will they ALL.Then assuming it really is OK underneath and the MoT was done by someone who knows these cars then sounds a deal worth thinking about.
Check condition of fuel hoses around the petrol tanks and swirl pot as these do not get changed that often.
Check for any play in the steering at the steering wheel end...Up and down movement will mean a worn bulkhead bush...In and out will mean new upper and lower steering UJ's...If you can drive it don't give it beans until you have warmed it up properly by driving it sensibly...Check that the oil pressure light comes on when started and goes off around 5-10secs later..The oil pressure will look low...20psi..but should rise when driving to around 30.
While its getting up to temp listen for any rumbling at the front end...Clunking from the N/S rear...More so when stopping and pulling away...Bit like the feeling when you put an auto into gear...This could be the driveshaft UJ's...Wheel bearings should of been checked for play at a MOT....
Once warmed up to near half apply a spurt of power, If you feel the torque kicking in from high 2nd through 3rd and into 4th then the engine sounds okay as long as its not tapping too loudly and drinking loads of fuel and is a flat as a motorway mouse.
All these things can be replaced and maintained at a reasonable cost..If the car has been serviced properly by its previous custodian and not driven until it develops problems then id snap it up...
Id be very surprised if it didn't come with a "To do" list that is bigger than the.."Done list"...Ive learnt with Wedges its a cycle....In fact if you can say "To do...Done" and slowly increase the speed you will start to resemble a V8 ticking over....Or is it just me...
Cheers
Ziga
Cheers for all that info, going to arrange a test drive plus the guy is happy for it to go up on the ramp. So what are these cars like for spares any parts hard to get hold of ? As I own a S3 series car things such as brake servos and indicators are rare as hens teeth, is there a website showing alternative parts for the 350i ?
Cheers
Neil
Cheers
Neil
There's a parts list at the top of the main Wedge forum page. Parts are a mix of Rover engine and gearbox, Ford Cortina front suspension, Ford Granada Mk 2 front brakes, Jaguar XJS/XJ6 back axle, TR7 bits and pieces and Renault Fuego rear lights for the later Wedges. Most parts are still available but for the handful that are not someone on this forum has probably sorted out a suitable alternative. Wedges owners are very creative in finding solutions and most are also very hands-on with some superb engineers on the forum. Most things can always be fixed or re-made.
TVR Parts are also slowly listing many of the hard to get items on their website following them buying out a lot of old stock from the independents.
Assuming the chassis is solid then at that price for that performance you wont get much faster and entertaining. Once you've driven it and heard the noise then it will be hard to say no. Be warned!
TVR Parts are also slowly listing many of the hard to get items on their website following them buying out a lot of old stock from the independents.
Assuming the chassis is solid then at that price for that performance you wont get much faster and entertaining. Once you've driven it and heard the noise then it will be hard to say no. Be warned!
Hi mate...The side sills should be pop-riveted on and so removable...That cross-member looks like someone has used it as a jacking point!...Not good to do...Fixable though...The rear brake pads are a SOB to do...They last years though so unless you really need to i wouldn't...The front diff seals can be done with the diff on the car...Prop out...etc...Might be easier to drop the diff though if you are wanting to service the rear calipers as well....They are Jaguar XJ6/S.
NeilS3 said:
Also... Insurance came out only £20 more than my V6 S3 so happy but cant find info on road tax. Anyone on here got a 4.5ltr 80's wedge for a road tax price?
Is it not a fix price for any car made before they had emissions from the manufacture. i.e. any car made in the 20th century FOUR HOURS labour to drop the diff and change the oil seals...?!
Snap their f
king hands off 
It'd be a really sensible idea to overhaul the brakes while the diff is off the car, you will never have better access to them (unless you take the body off).
ETA a scan of the engine bay suggests it's running standard 3.5L injectors, plenum and fuel rail. That's OK even up to the 3.9L but I wouldn't like to say there would be adequate flow to properly fuel a 4.5L. I would want to see some pretty concrete evidence that is really is a 4.5L - I can see it has a hotwire airflow meter but that proves nothing.
Snap their f
king hands off It'd be a really sensible idea to overhaul the brakes while the diff is off the car, you will never have better access to them (unless you take the body off).
ETA a scan of the engine bay suggests it's running standard 3.5L injectors, plenum and fuel rail. That's OK even up to the 3.9L but I wouldn't like to say there would be adequate flow to properly fuel a 4.5L. I would want to see some pretty concrete evidence that is really is a 4.5L - I can see it has a hotwire airflow meter but that proves nothing.
Edited by Wedg1e on Thursday 19th May 01:29
Wedg1e said:
ETA a scan of the engine bay suggests it's running standard 3.5L injectors, plenum and fuel rail. That's OK even up to the 3.9L but I wouldn't like to say there would be adequate flow to properly fuel a 4.5L. I would want to see some pretty concrete evidence that is really is a 4.5L - I can see it has a hotwire airflow meter but that proves nothing.
Well spotted Ian...You have a really good point there...Also would a solid state FPR give enough fuelling?...The 350i is 36-38psi on WOT..390SE-400SE around 42psi so a 4.5 surely would need that as a minimum or would be running lean...Perhaps they stung someone a load of money to plop shyte badges on...Remember the JPS special Black Wedge....
...As long as someone hasn't dumped a rangey mud plugger in there...That would be about as useful as a fart in a spacesuit....Try and find out as much info around the engine as possible....A 4.5 mud plugger will have less torque than a 350i.Hi mate...To be fair...If you paid 4K for it then all those niggles wouldn't matter...I and others have been to the MOT station with the pods wound up manually..Even if they were working when you tested them earlier...They have a habit of letting you down at the MOT...So that could explain that....
Drivers window...Probably lack of use or lubrication...
The engine issue may not be as bad...Ideally you need to find out as much as you can...Maybe contact Stiener....Although i did a search and couldn't find anything even remotely close?...
In reality you could go and spend 8K on a Wedge and still have issues arise that start eating the bottom of your pockets out...They are a 25+ year old car.
The rear shock leaking might not of failed an MOT but there should be an advisory...Although technically an advisory is as good as a fail....Ask to see the MOT certificate.
If the car was in a better sorted condition then probably 2K more....A bit more research may be needed...
Cheers
Ziga
Drivers window...Probably lack of use or lubrication...
The engine issue may not be as bad...Ideally you need to find out as much as you can...Maybe contact Stiener....Although i did a search and couldn't find anything even remotely close?...
In reality you could go and spend 8K on a Wedge and still have issues arise that start eating the bottom of your pockets out...They are a 25+ year old car.
The rear shock leaking might not of failed an MOT but there should be an advisory...Although technically an advisory is as good as a fail....Ask to see the MOT certificate.
If the car was in a better sorted condition then probably 2K more....A bit more research may be needed...
Cheers
Ziga
My view is that at £4k I'd buy it if I had the space. If it's got an MOT then it can't be too far wrong. I did hear if fire up at Brightwells the other year and it certainly didn't sound like a standard 3.5 V8 engine! Can you get the engine number off the block and check it that way?
It seems that some work was done to get it through the MOT for this year...
Type in the registration...
https://www.check-mot.service.gov.uk/?_ga=1.157006...
Interesting advisory in 2007 regarding rear shock absorber....
Type in the registration...
https://www.check-mot.service.gov.uk/?_ga=1.157006...
Interesting advisory in 2007 regarding rear shock absorber....
It's a nice looking car and yes it sounded very nice however my V6 S3 sounds more like a V8 so I have to put the exhaust note aside really. yes a very good price and fun to keep and restore my crux of this is it having the 4.5 which would make it a bit different...... I shall investigate the engine number.
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