400se on the bay

400se on the bay

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Hansoplast

570 posts

160 months

Monday 4th July 2016
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chj said:
Made £4,900 but not up to reserve.
I am happy to give more if the lady would tink the same. She thinks it 's to flashy.


Hans

JumboBeef

3,772 posts

177 months

Monday 4th July 2016
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chj said:
Made £4,900 but not up to reserve.
So people think it's not even worth five grand?!

ElvisWedgely

2,714 posts

165 months

Monday 4th July 2016
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JumboBeef said:
So people think it's not even worth five grand?!
I'm afraid so, but it is one that was previously written off I believe.

Tony. TCB.

mrzigazaga

18,557 posts

165 months

Monday 4th July 2016
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I can't see what people are moaning about...It was only the body that got damaged the rest is in fine fettle..It seems that people are too pre-occupied with values these days when they should be enjoying these cars..If you want to invest then don't buy a wedge...If you want something to just sit there and rot...Don't buy a Wedge...If you want a garage queen...Don't buy a Wedge..

ElvisWedgely

2,714 posts

165 months

Monday 4th July 2016
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mrzigazaga said:
I can't see what people are moaning about...It was only the body that got damaged the rest is in fine fettle..It seems that people are too pre-occupied with values these days when they should be enjoying these cars..If you want to invest then don't buy a wedge...If you want something to just sit there and rot...Don't buy a Wedge...If you want a garage queen...Don't buy a Wedge..
I think people want originality rather than invest. There is no knowing what could have happened to a car that's had an insurance claim on it. I know in this instance it was just the body, but there have been cases where cars have been dangerously put together for resale and people are just weary.

Tony. TCB.

chj

763 posts

213 months

Monday 4th July 2016
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I think lack of history would have been a good part of the issue as I had real problems selling my Griff 500 a couple of years ago for that reason even though it was keenly priced.

I was very tempted to bid on the one on ebay but I didn't have any time at all to go and give it a look, so decided against it.


Skyedriver

17,855 posts

282 months

Monday 4th July 2016
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chj said:
I think lack of history would have been a good part of the issue as I had real problems selling my Griff 500 a couple of years ago for that reason even though it was keenly priced.

I was very tempted to bid on the one on ebay but I didn't have any time at all to go and give it a look, so decided against it.

Nail / head etc
Something like that needs a good look over rather than bid on the pics. That seriously limits the bidders.
Also the damage to the front: small amount of crazing shown in pic but how far up the nose does it actually travel. Could well result in a full respray to remedy and the colour looks like it could be difficult to match successfully.

eesbad

1,329 posts

202 months

Tuesday 30th August 2016
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And it's back on the flea again... Lowered reserve too.


pistolar

1,474 posts

268 months

Tuesday 30th August 2016
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Whats with the replacement engine? some old chimp lump? The engine in my old 400SE was extremely special as are i believe all 400s

MADNESS

222 posts

241 months

Wednesday 31st August 2016
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I had a look at this car before the current owner brought it, that was maybe about April/May this year.
When it was started it didn't sound to good, didn't sound to me like a real tvr somehow, smoked as well ( oil).

Would make a nice car with maybe £4-5k put towards a referb .

Wedg1e

26,803 posts

265 months

Thursday 1st September 2016
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pistolar said:
Whats with the replacement engine? some old chimp lump? The engine in my old 400SE was extremely special as are i believe all 400s
Hmmm, I heard a different story some years back.
With the 390SE the engines were modified 3.5L units being twiddled by JE/ NCK/ TVR Power. Once Landrover brought out their own 3.9L and the hotwire injection had been introduced, it was easier for TVR to use them as-supplied and this is why 400SEs often don't rev as hard.
It could just be a story, of course, but PW wouldn't spend money he didn't need to whistle

In 3.9L Landrover spec. it was a fairly low-compression unit (9.35:1 IIRC vs. the 10.5:1 of the 390SE); the early 400SEs still had flapper injection and maybe these also got some fingering by the experts. Bearing in mind that not all of the 'fire-breathing' 390SEs were built to the same high spec. it wouldn't be a surprise if corners were cut on the 400.



pistolar

1,474 posts

268 months

Thursday 1st September 2016
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Wedg1e said:
Hmmm, I heard a different story some years back.
With the 390SE the engines were modified 3.5L units being twiddled by JE/ NCK/ TVR Power. Once Landrover brought out their own 3.9L and the hotwire injection had been introduced, it was easier for TVR to use them as-supplied and this is why 400SEs often don't rev as hard.
It could just be a story, of course, but PW wouldn't spend money he didn't need to whistle

In 3.9L Landrover spec. it was a fairly low-compression unit (9.35:1 IIRC vs. the 10.5:1 of the 390SE); the early 400SEs still had flapper injection and maybe these also got some fingering by the experts. Bearing in mind that not all of the 'fire-breathing' 390SEs were built to the same high spec. it wouldn't be a surprise if corners were cut on the 400.
My old 400SE TAZ40 had massively ported heads and inlet manifold
Barringtons 400SE has Cosworth pistons
and thats why a 400SE pumps out far more power than a Chimp

mrzigazaga

18,557 posts

165 months

Thursday 1st September 2016
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This has got me wondering ....I have a friend who owns a 390SE that was built in 1985-86 which was used by the factory from build date up until 2001..He is a bit worried as after we checked the engine number...Or rather "Numbers" there is the early one on the N/S dipstick which the Land Rover disco 1 had..The second engine number is at the N/S of the front pulley where the SD1 had them and the number comes in the SD1 Vitesse build date...Then the top of the engine has a later Morgan/Chimaera 4.0 number on it...Bearing in mind this was done at the factory for the factory so by the sound of it they have put a 4.0 top end on a stock 350i bottom end..Its a flapper still...Probably got thrashed to buggery though...Good bit of provenance smile

Hopefully he will be at next years Wedgefest if he can decide what to tell DVLA what the engine number is..I think he is worrying about nothing even if the V5 does say it still has the original engine..Even if it don't ..It was done at the factory...Surely thats not his beef??.....

Wedg1e

26,803 posts

265 months

Thursday 1st September 2016
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pistolar said:
...and thats why a 400SE pumps out far more power than a Chimp
Well you say that but there's a (H-plate) 400SE near me with nitrous fitted as it just wasn't competitive for drag racing... after he blew the engine the first time it was stripped and turned out to be a largely bog-stock Landrover motor. It's not now, but it's not what the factory fitted.

jimburr

216 posts

138 months

Friday 2nd September 2016
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Got the 350SE. 3.9 hotwire NCK. You can keep the power on to 6k plus revs no problem, the exhaust note changes about 4500 revs. log book 3.5?

barrington

1,316 posts

231 months

Friday 2nd September 2016
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mrzigazaga said:
I can't see what people are moaning about...It was only the body that got damaged the rest is in fine fettle..It seems that people are too pre-occupied with values these days when they should be enjoying these cars..If you want to invest then don't buy a wedge...If you want something to just sit there and rot...Don't buy a Wedge...If you want a garage queen...Don't buy a Wedge..
Zig people worry about cat c cat d there are a lot of damaged tvr out there that were not registered as damaged pistolar had a 450 see in red there was no boot area and the nose was gone the car was not not registered as damaged so you never now

mrzigazaga

18,557 posts

165 months

Friday 2nd September 2016
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barrington said:
Zig people worry about cat c cat d there are a lot of damaged tvr out there that were not registered as damaged pistolar had a 450 see in red there was no boot area and the nose was gone the car was not not registered as damaged so you never now
I agree mate...This is also why doing a HPI check isn't worth the paper its written on....

I know someone who had some light damage on theirs and the insurance wanted to write it off...His main issue was the under evaluation of his Wedge to his insurance company...This is why its important to have a good agreed value...smile

GV

2,366 posts

224 months

Sunday 4th September 2016
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I think the service history is not all that relevant on Wedges nowadays. I only say that because condition is king when buying a used TVR except perhaps the later types.

ianwayne

6,292 posts

268 months

Sunday 4th September 2016
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Sold for £5500 in Aug but now relisted again:

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/TVR-400SE-/331954285905?

Cat C in 2009,£4k so far, runs out 8pm Monday.

eesbad

1,329 posts

202 months

Monday 5th September 2016
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Went for £4400