Third brake light

Third brake light

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mk1fan

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10,517 posts

225 months

Tuesday 28th June 2016
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So, has anyone fitted a third rear brake light? Piccies help.

mrzigazaga

18,555 posts

165 months

Tuesday 28th June 2016
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mk1fan said:
So, has anyone fitted a third rear brake light? Piccies help.
Hi mate...Im sure Henry has one on his 450SE....

phillpot

17,115 posts

183 months

Tuesday 28th June 2016
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Rob has one on his S ..... third brake light

mk1fan

Original Poster:

10,517 posts

225 months

Tuesday 28th June 2016
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Common on Mike, you already know I've added them to my S's. Audi mk1 TT cabrio items.

Thinking Wedge specific now.

phillpot

17,115 posts

183 months

Tuesday 28th June 2016
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.............getmecoat




Memory, it's an age thing. Now what were we discussing?

TV8

3,122 posts

175 months

Tuesday 28th June 2016
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Have you got a wedge as well now?

RCK974X

2,521 posts

149 months

Tuesday 28th June 2016
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One of the New Zealand traffic rules is that all vehicles have to have a third brake light (with regulations about its height, visibility etc).

So for the import registration/inspection I put a LED strip light in just under the top of the boot, as high as possible in the moulding.
Although it's technically too low and not vertical, I argued that there's really nowhere else to put it, unless they force me to put a spoiler on...which wrecks driver's rear vision..(etc) - so they gave in and passed it.

Photo attached....


Yes, that IS my back garden.

RCK974X

2,521 posts

149 months

Tuesday 28th June 2016
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OH, and I also changed the wiring so that the fog lights are now the brake lights, as NZ doesn't require fog lights, and they are a LOT brighter, which I think helped to get it passed.

The LEDS are visible looking horizontally, even though strip is not vertical.

mk1fan

Original Poster:

10,517 posts

225 months

Tuesday 28th June 2016
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UK requires 100mm distance between brake and fog lights.

Thanks though. Was thinking similar as to what you have done.

Anymore out there.

RCK974X

2,521 posts

149 months

Tuesday 28th June 2016
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mk1fan said:
UK requires 100mm distance between brake and fog lights.

Thanks though. Was thinking similar as to what you have done.

Anymore out there.
OK - I nipped out to shed and measured. As you can see mine has the Capri rears.

They are 635mm apart (just for double check)

The centre strip is actually 190mm horizontally and 200mm vertically away (edge to edge) from the Capri lights

- so it would PASS that reg !

Edited by RCK974X on Tuesday 28th June 23:21

mrzigazaga

18,555 posts

165 months

Tuesday 28th June 2016
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RCK974X said:
Photo attached....


Yes, that IS my back garden.
A fine beast...Bloody hell i bet that grass takes some cutting...smile

Mr Tank

5,797 posts

275 months

Tuesday 28th June 2016
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Hi

The factory fit some to the last 280i's and I believe they also fitted them to some other cars.

RCK974X

2,521 posts

149 months

Tuesday 28th June 2016
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mrzigazaga said:
A fine beast...Bloody hell i bet that grass takes some cutting...smile
Yes.

It's 1.8 hectares (= about 4 acres) with 300 olive trees, and some fruit and nut trees. Photo shows newer and smaller olive trees. Got some big ones about 4 metres high further up.

I have a ride-on mower - a John Deere Z445 (excellent V-twin Kawasaki engine) and it STILL takes about 5 hours weaving in and out the trees.

Pruning olive trees takes about 2-3 weeks every year..... just a bit different from a Manchester council house !

Always something to do, besides the car stuff....



mrzigazaga

18,555 posts

165 months

Wednesday 29th June 2016
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RCK974X said:
Yes.

It's 1.8 hectares (= about 4 acres) with 300 olive trees, and some fruit and nut trees. Photo shows newer and smaller olive trees. Got some big ones about 4 metres high further up.

I have a ride-on mower - a John Deere Z445 (excellent V-twin Kawasaki engine) and it STILL takes about 5 hours weaving in and out the trees.

Pruning olive trees takes about 2-3 weeks every year..... just a bit different from a Manchester council house !

Always something to do, besides the car stuff....
What a life...So are you running the Wedge on olive oil...smile

Grady

1,221 posts

260 months

Wednesday 29th June 2016
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Mr Tank said:
The factory fit some to the last 280i's and I believe they also fitted them to some other cars.
That's what mine looks like. The 3rd light - or Center High Mounted Stop Lamps (CHMSL) as it is fondly called by the DOT - was required over here starting in the 1986 model year. But I think my 85 has one too. Grady

Wedg1e

26,801 posts

265 months

Wednesday 29th June 2016
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That's a bit draconian even by UK standards, requiring retrospective fitment of something that wasn't original. Would a 1920s Model T Ford have to have CMHTBL-or whatever as well? rolleyes

mk1fan

Original Poster:

10,517 posts

225 months

Wednesday 29th June 2016
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TV8 said:
Have you got a wedge as well now?
I can neither confirm or deny any suggestion of a change in the catalogue of my current ownership.

TV8

3,122 posts

175 months

Wednesday 29th June 2016
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mk1fan said:
TV8 said:
Have you got a wedge as well now?
I can neither confirm or deny any suggestion of a change in the catalogue of my current ownership.
So that's a yes then!

RCK974X

2,521 posts

149 months

Wednesday 29th June 2016
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Wedg1e said:
That's a bit draconian even by UK standards, requiring retrospective fitment of something that wasn't original. Would a 1920s Model T Ford have to have CMHTBL-or whatever as well? rolleyes
Yeah, I agree. But them were the rules at the time, unless you went for a 'special vehicle' category which was a whole other hassle and cost.

In some ways it's even WORSE now, they tightened the rules even more because of wound back and written off vehicles being imported from Oz and Japan after many buyers were caught out buying dangerous crap.

They widened the 'special vehicle' categories, I haven't checked, but I think my wedge would get in as special, but the weirdest thing is they restrict the numbers allowed each year, and you have to do almost a full certification which costs equiv of about 1000 quid.

Even now, for example I can't even fit adjustable height shocks as it's regarded as a 'serious modification'. Those rules are ridiculous.

There was a point where someone I know with a Lotus had to hide his car, as it was imported and registered and then they changed the rules (rather stupidly creating a conflict) and then DVLA equiv. tried to enforce a full recertification on him.
He went to court over it, and won.

But then today, anything that's not 'New Zealand New' is regarded as probably dodgy.

EDIT - I just realised that some of this stupidity is because the rules are written not as "manufacture date" but "first registration in New Zealand" which is why all imported cars are caught up.



Edited by RCK974X on Wednesday 29th June 21:41