A couple of Wedge headlamp pod questions ..

A couple of Wedge headlamp pod questions ..

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mrzigazaga

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18,557 posts

165 months

Wednesday 7th September 2016
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Well bit of an update if you can call it that....Removed the pod..Connected up the other motor that i have..Nothing...Mind you I'm not 100% about the spare motor i have...Cleaned up the big bunch of earths on the N/S suspension turret and......Nothing.

Now i don't have N/S headlight...Pod and sidelights works but no headlamp...banghead

hrepo

129 posts

97 months

Wednesday 7th September 2016
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mrzigazaga said:
Well bit of an update if you can call it that....Removed the pod..Connected up the other motor that i have..Nothing...Mind you I'm not 100% about the spare motor i have...Cleaned up the big bunch of earths on the N/S suspension turret and......Nothing.

Now i don't have N/S headlight...Pod and sidelights works but no headlamp...banghead
Offer still valid...

mrzigazaga

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18,557 posts

165 months

Wednesday 7th September 2016
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hrepo said:
Offer still valid...
Thanks mate...I also need to do the fuel hose under the car so hopefully will sort it Saturday or Sunday...I will definitely get to you soon...smile

mrzigazaga

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18,557 posts

165 months

Sunday 11th September 2016
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Hi Peeps.

Well had a productive day on Poppy, Went to see a good friend who very kindly fitted my new fuel pump and fuel feed...The hose was starting to perish as the fuel was permeating through it..Fairly straight forward...Couple of brown trouser moments when removing the feed to the pump which had armoured hose so was not that easy to clamp..We chose the bolt in hole option but the bolt was too big...hehe

Next the feed to the headlights was tested and it was soon after that Paul spotted the deliberate mistake...I had somehow with all my knowledge and wisdom made a fatal error of plugging the pod motor into the headlamp plug...Its a fairly easy mistake to make ...getmecoat
So after being laughed at for ten minutes we continued to re-assemble the light pods..

Test.....On = 2 Up...Off = 2 Down........On = 2 Up...Off = 2 Down......On = 2 Up...Off = 2 Down......On = 2 Up...Off = 2 Down......On = 2 Up...Off = 2 Down......Happy days....smile

After having a brief chat and a farewell handshake i cheekily popped the pods up one more time...On = 2 Up..Off = 1 down..On = 1 up...Off 1 down..On = 1 up...Off 1 down..On = 1 up...Off 1 down..banghead

So the ECU was dropped and suddenly the pod lowered...Ah ha...So the relay board was dropped down and Paul found that the wire on the diode had snapped so he fixed that and still nothing...Little wiggle of the loom and bingo..So somewhere in there is a dodgy wire..The ECU is going to be moved from the flap under the glovebox to the recess in the tub on the left hand side of the passenger footwell....I think thats where they are meant to sit!.


So another day has been set aside to sort out the relay board.....sleep...I said..."Relay board"....type...smile


Thanks


Ziga

mrzigazaga

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18,557 posts

165 months

Saturday 24th September 2016
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Decided to have another look at why i don't have flash on the driving lamps but do have them as front fogs..Removed the pod to check that the plug is on the right connector...Seems to nearly match colours at each end...Put it back together and now do not have any O/S main beam...Still no flash on driving lamps...On the N/S lamp plug there was 5 wires in total on the loom side..There were two white & Blue striped that went in together...Loom side...Two green & Red or Brown...Loom side.. and one black...Lamp side was one blue & White and one green & red or brown and one black so i take it the N/S pod feeds the O/S?

Ive given up now anyway as its doing my head in...I have never known anyone to have removed and refitted the pods so much on a Wedge in one month!...Ill have another look tomorrow as i have an MOT next month...


Cheers


Ziga

Robert ody

48 posts

108 months

Saturday 24th September 2016
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Hi gents

I had a few problems with one head light and found it was the motor if you remove the motor leaving the linkage attached to the pod and take the small cover of of the end there is what looks like a strip of brass which is lifted and dropped at either end by a cam when the motor is rotated, when the brass strip is lowered by the cam it makes on a brass pin this operates the relays in the car to lift and lower the pod. I found that one of these was not making on one end of the brass strip when it was lowered by the cam so i cleaned the brass pin and the strip with emery paper and put a little more tension on the brass strip by turning the motor for the cam to raise the strip then just very slightly bending the end of the strip it is a bit of a fiddly job you can test if you have continuity through the switches with a meter but i cant remember the cable colours now but doing this cured my iffy headlight pod

Rob

mrzigazaga

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18,557 posts

165 months

Saturday 24th September 2016
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Thanks Robert.

I think i just need to learn to use a multi-meter...I have one in the boot..smile

Ill have to have a go at trying to understand the wiring diagram in the Wedge manual...

I guess on a plus side my pods work lovely....

Wedg1e

26,803 posts

265 months

Sunday 25th September 2016
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This might be of use... if you scroll down there's a Powerpoint slideshow on how to strip and rebuild the pod motors:

http://www.wedgeneering.co.uk/TVR%20390SE%20p6.htm

mrzigazaga

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18,557 posts

165 months

Sunday 25th September 2016
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Wedg1e said:
This might be of use... if you scroll down there's a Powerpoint slideshow on how to strip and rebuild the pod motors:

http://www.wedgeneering.co.uk/TVR%20390SE%20p6.htm
Thanks Ian...Thats a really useful well documented piece of technically correct yet easily explained chunk of info that even i can understand...smile

You sir are a generous....(I didn't put "Genius" cos i know how modest you are) hehe

Don't know why i didn't look there in the first place.... getmecoat


beer


Ziga


mrzigazaga

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165 months

Sunday 25th September 2016
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Actually after a quick look at the diagram I'm now thinking that the blue/White striped could be the culprit as i didn't touch the O/S lamp or pod yesterday only the N/S was removed and inspected...Thats when i saw the doubled up wires coming from the headlamp plug..(Blue & White...Red & Green etc).. Obviously to feed the other side.

Im sure the 280i was the other way round.

Anyway so the finger could be pointed at the switch...Flasher stalk or relay board.

I do have a dodgy brown (live) going into the relay board that i tried sorting last week...I couldn't remove the female connector from the relay board..Second down in the row of three for the pods/Headlamp...I have done this before and used a normal female small spade connector..Just can't get the bugger out, I know the fittings are barbed but cannot get anything in there to move them.

My pods are all operational its just the bloody lamps!...

This was the wire...

Which is now...Or was held in place...id better check that.
This was after the pods were sorted...All lights work except the flash of the driving lights...



mrzigazaga

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18,557 posts

165 months

Sunday 25th September 2016
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Right well i thought after looking at Ian's wiring diagram for the headlights i thought i would check the diode as this was giving some problems recently...


The wire had snapped and i ran out of small spade fittings ..Anyhow i was able to fix it for now but will need a new one.

So now i have flash but no front fogs...And still no main beam on the O/S bulb which I'm thinking now may of gone.
I had front fogs but no flash with the diode up the other way but i have put it back to the flash as that just seems the right way?.

Im now thinking i may have two issues...

1. A faulty front fog lamp switch...The illumination was out at the last MOT and was advised...I did sort that as that was a wire out..Maybe its this again.
2. A blown main beam bulb.

I have a new headlamp bulb in the boot but was wondering if anyone knows the part number for the diode..If not i will try to read from it.


Thanks


Ziga

mrzigazaga

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18,557 posts

165 months

Wednesday 28th September 2016
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Hi Peeps.

Well fitted a new diode and its still doing the same ole rubbish!..I also fitted a new headlamp bulb but that was doing the same as the old one...Doh!...

Turn the diode one way and i have fogs and high beam on the headlights no flash...Turn it up the other way and i have flash and no fogs...I think there is definitely a break in a wire somewhere...

adam quantrill

11,538 posts

242 months

Wednesday 28th September 2016
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Normally it's a 1N4001 but if I replace them I use 1N5400 or 1N5401 because they can take more current and won't blow.

Also - I thought there were two diodes?

Edit - just been looking at mine for a different reason, looks like just the one diode.


Edited by adam quantrill on Wednesday 28th September 18:36

mrzigazaga

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18,557 posts

165 months

Wednesday 28th September 2016
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I think the new diode was 1N0000...Something?...Ill have a look tomorrow at the spare.
At one point i had to give the headlamp a tap to help it come on so there is definitely a loose wire somewhere near the plug go the lamp..

The fog light switch works and illuminates..What should the diode be doing?.

As said up one way i have no flash on driving lamps but do on main beam headlamps also have front fogs and the switch is illuminated?.

...Up the other way i have flash as high beam on headlights and flash on driving lights but no front fogs or illumination on the switch?

Which is correct?.....

So i have everything i should have but in the wrong order?...

adam quantrill

11,538 posts

242 months

Wednesday 28th September 2016
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On some 350's the driving lights only come on if the headlights are on too.

On my first one they came on if the sides were on (which I preferred).

I think the later the car the most likely the first option. The 400SX only comes on with headlamps.

mrzigazaga

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165 months

Wednesday 28th September 2016
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adam quantrill said:
On some 350's the driving lights only come on if the headlights are on too.
Thats what mine do Adam...They only operate when the headlights are on main beam..They are classed as fog lights then...smile

Perhaps i should check the relays next...