DARE ALLOY WHEELS

DARE ALLOY WHEELS

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s3c chris

Original Poster:

288 posts

129 months

Friday 23rd September 2016
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Hi all.

Afraid I'm jumping on here from the Chimaera forum, hope you will forgive me......

I would like a set of BBS RS style wheels for my car, genuine would be great but....
I don't want to go mad and would like 162 front and 17" rear wheeels probably with 225/45 front and 245/40 rear tyres.

I've considered Lenso and Calibre wheels but the former always seem to be out of stock and the latter only available in 7x16 fronts. The other alternative are Dare wheels in 8x16 et25 and 8.5x17 et30.
I know there are a few Griffs around with these wheels and I just wondered what the general opinion was?
I've read stories about poor finish, caliper clearance issues and other nasties too. The Lensos seem tried and trusted but noone seems to have any idea on delivery. I realise none are as good as the genuine article but they are way out of my league price wise!

All thoughts appreciated.

Regards Chris.

jeboa

535 posts

260 months

Friday 23rd September 2016
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Check these out:

http://bolawheels.co.uk/bola-tx09/



They don't do 16", but you could go for 17" front, 18" rear. Looks like a set would come in at about £650....

Stumbled across this company online yesterday - looks like they are (re)manufacturing a wheel exactly the same as the TVR spider.

http://bolawheels.co.uk/bola-b7/



Emailed them today to see if they would consider manufacturing a 17" 7.5/8.0 wheel in this style and make them with a 4/5 stud PCD. Maybe a few people out there interested in that?

s3c chris

Original Poster:

288 posts

129 months

Saturday 24th September 2016
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Thanks for that information.

I have actually already spoken to a very helpful man at Bola wheels, but as you say they don't do a 16" wheel.
This is a shame as they look to be really nice quality......

Interesting thoughts on the Spider lookalikes though.

Regards Chris.

Just Trouble

700 posts

253 months

Saturday 24th September 2016
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Have you looked at Image Wheels?

http://www.imagewheels.co.uk/three-piece-cast-allo...

Cheers

JT

Digitalize

2,850 posts

134 months

Saturday 24th September 2016
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DARE and BOLA are both makers of replica wheels, cheap horrible cast wheels.

Stay away from them, get some genuine wheels.

Used BBS RS in the sizes you're wanting probably wouldn't be that expensive, and hold their value.

simonwedge

743 posts

179 months

Sunday 25th September 2016
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Digitalize said:
DARE and BOLA are both makers of replica wheels, cheap horrible cast wheels.

Stay away from them, get some genuine wheels.

Used BBS RS in the sizes you're wanting probably wouldn't be that expensive, and hold their value.
I've got a set of those cheap horrible cast wheels on my car and I have to say I'm very pleased with them;



I've had them on for almost 2 years now and their condition is as good as the day I put them on.

Whilst I would love to have had some original BBS or OZ split rims to put on:
a) Finding a set in the right sizes (different front and rear remember) is like finding rocking horse s**t on the bottom of Elvis' boots
b) Despite what 'Digitalize' might think, anyone who might have a set should be well aware of their intrinsic value and certainly shouldn't be selling them cheaply. The phrase 'probably wouldn't be that expensive' tells you everything you need to know about the OP's actual experience here!
c) In the unlikely event that you did find a set in the right sizes and at the right price they'd probably need refurbishing, I know from experience that this is about £800 per set to have done professionally - which on its own is almost twice what it cost me to buy my current wheels.

Just Trouble

700 posts

253 months

Sunday 25th September 2016
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simonwedge said:
I've got a set of those cheap horrible cast wheels on my car and I have to say I'm very pleased with them;



I've had them on for almost 2 years now and their condition is as good as the day I put them on.

Whilst I would love to have had some original BBS or OZ split rims to put on:
a) Finding a set in the right sizes (different front and rear remember) is like finding rocking horse s**t on the bottom of Elvis' boots
b) Despite what 'Digitalize' might think, anyone who might have a set should be well aware of their intrinsic value and certainly shouldn't be selling them cheaply. The phrase 'probably wouldn't be that expensive' tells you everything you need to know about the OP's actual experience here!
c) In the unlikely event that you did find a set in the right sizes and at the right price they'd probably need refurbishing, I know from experience that this is about £800 per set to have done professionally - which on its own is almost twice what it cost me to buy my current wheels.
Very nice Simonwedge, very nice indeed thumbup

JT

Digitalize

2,850 posts

134 months

Sunday 25th September 2016
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You can pick up a set of RS for around £800 pretty easily in skinny sizes. Yes staggered will make it harder.

Split them down yourself, polish the dishes and have the centres blasted and painted, no more than £200. Bit of elbow grease and they'll look lovely.

£1000 for genuine forged wheels, that will always be worth £1000. Instead of what £500 on cheap replicas that will be worth nothing in a few years, not to mention you can spot them a mile off. Knock off wheels are destroying the wheel industry, and I don't understand why so many people are fine with it. Buy the genuine thing and be proud knowing you've made the effort, and of course anyone who knows wheels will spot them and know you've put the effort in, and appreciate a real wheel. It's not like the car is a cheap banger now is it?

simonwedge

743 posts

179 months

Sunday 25th September 2016
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Digitalize said:
You can pick up a set of RS for around £800 pretty easily in skinny sizes. Yes staggered will make it harder.

Split them down yourself, polish the dishes and have the centres blasted and painted, no more than £200. Bit of elbow grease and they'll look lovely.

£1000 for genuine forged wheels, that will always be worth £1000. Instead of what £500 on cheap replicas that will be worth nothing in a few years, not to mention you can spot them a mile off. Knock off wheels are destroying the wheel industry, and I don't understand why so many people are fine with it. Buy the genuine thing and be proud knowing you've made the effort, and of course anyone who knows wheels will spot them and know you've put the effort in, and appreciate a real wheel. It's not like the car is a cheap banger now is it?
OK then, you find me a set of BBS RS wheels for anything less than £1,000 in the following sizes:

16 x 7.5 ET25 x 2
17 x 8.5 ET35 x 2

And I will eat my words. Challenge on.

Edited to add: with the correct 4 x 108mm PCD

Edited by simonwedge on Sunday 25th September 11:15

Digitalize

2,850 posts

134 months

Sunday 25th September 2016
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simonwedge said:
OK then, you find me a set of BBS RS wheels for anything less than £1,000 in the following sizes:

16 x 7.5 ET25 x 2
17 x 8.5 ET35 x 2

And I will eat my words. Challenge on.

Edited to add: with the correct 4 x 108mm PCD

Edited by simonwedge on Sunday 25th September 11:15
Ooh, 4x108 will be a challenge, along with 17", assumed they were 15/16. Compomotives Mesh design would be easier to find in 4x108 but not sure on 17" again as it wasn't a common size in period. Assumed TVR would have been 4x100 but now thinking about it from my Ford days TVR wheels came up a few times.

New lips and barrels aren't that expensive, individual faces or pairs come up now and then. Yeah it won't be as easy as pressing buy now on some cast fakes, but at least they'll be real. Plus if you kerb one you can fix it pretty quickly, or split them down for a polish up. And the aforementioned fact that you can tell them apart pretty easily.

simonwedge

743 posts

179 months

Sunday 25th September 2016
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I rest my case.

s3c chris

Original Poster:

288 posts

129 months

Monday 26th September 2016
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I have to agree with Simon....

Whilst the genuine article would be lovely, a new set of BBS RS wheels is well over £3500 and they don't appear to be available in our sizes anymore. The Lensos are well respected and to most people look the same and whilst the purists will disagree, they seem a very cost effective option. Looking on their website reveals a huge state of the art manufacturing facility. The only downside are the plastic "bolts" that look a bit artificial but we can live with that!

To answer my original question, has anyone got any experience of DARE wheels on their TVR?

Your car looks lovely Simon....

Regards Chris.

s p a c e m a n

10,752 posts

147 months

Monday 26th September 2016
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There's a set of 16" Lenso in the tvr parts bit on here

jay-kay-em

217 posts

203 months

Monday 26th September 2016
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Like most things, it's personal taste. But the OP did ask for opinions.....

Whilst Digitalize is way off the mark regarding pricing and availability, I share his sentiments regarding fake split rims. I treat them with the same contempt as a fake Rolex or fine art.

To see all those fake split rim bolts and to know that they are made of plastic and glued, is somewhat comical. It's all best left to that 19 year old and his slammed VW polo on wound-down coil overs. BOOYAKA!

I think a TVR is a genuine, honest, gentlemans sports car. Anything fake doesn't sit right with me. When I look at modern cars, with their fake exhaust tips, fake air vents and fake engine noises played over the stereo, I take great pride in my griff that the way it looks and the way it sounds is via form & function. Seems a shame to ruin that with fake bling.

If your a sucker for a gorgeous, genuine and rare split rim, which I confess to be, then buy a 400. That way, they are thrown in for free. It was my wheel choice that overruled the big 400/500 question.


RobXjcoupe

3,151 posts

90 months

Monday 26th September 2016
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You could buy a set of suitable size BMW bbs splits and then have the centres re-drilled to suit a 4x108 pcd. I did it a while back for my focus estate hack ??

Edited by RobXjcoupe on Monday 26th September 16:35

Just Trouble

700 posts

253 months

Monday 26th September 2016
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Nothing fake or plastic about the split rims on my Griff




Edited by Just Trouble on Monday 26th September 20:03

andy43

9,545 posts

253 months

Monday 26th September 2016
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I've fitted Lensos on mine, just standard 15/16" sizes, and for the price they're great. Also looked at Calibre but the Lensos seemed better quality. It was almost as cheap to buy new Lensos as it would have been to get my Estorils properly refurbed.
You wouldn't find a set of genuine OZs now unless you're really lucky, and nice as the genuine BBS are, they're way out of my price range, even used ones. They do look stunning though - you can tell the difference up close.
I'll just have to accept I can only afford these cheap fakes, but they do look great set off against the swoopy hand formed english-wheeled aluminium bodywork of the Griff. Oh, wait... wink

chris52

1,560 posts

182 months

Monday 26th September 2016
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Mine has the compomotive CX split rims on 16" fronts 17" rears 225-45-16 front can't remember what the rear sized is by can check if interested. Don't know if these are still available. They certainly look the part IMO.
Chris

s3c chris

Original Poster:

288 posts

129 months

Monday 26th September 2016
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Hi Chris,

Those wheels look absolutely gorgeous! I don't think that these are available any longer unfortunately.
If they were they would no doubt cost a fortune though.....

Regards Chris.

RobXjcoupe

3,151 posts

90 months

Tuesday 27th September 2016
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I bought my image 3 piece splits about 11 years ago. 17" front and rear. 7j fronts and 8j rears with standard offsets. Tyre size front 215 40 r17 and rear 245 40 r17. Looks perfect in my eyes. Image still have a picture of my car on their gallery. First time I showed my car at a griff growl either 2004 or 2005 the grief I had explaining wheel, tyre and offset sizes as most cars were standard wheels or running 16" wheels front and rear. Now we have so much more choice ",)


Edited by RobXjcoupe on Tuesday 27th September 06:34