Water Leaks - Known Knowns and Known Unknowns

Water Leaks - Known Knowns and Known Unknowns

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v8s4me

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219 months

Thursday 19th January 2017
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This is the area I repaired yesterday.....



Unfortunately water is still getting through somewhere along this seam. I've also found the corresponding corner on the other side of the tub is also porous. Proof, if any was needed, that TVR skimped in the corners, on this body at least.

On the upside, all the other little holes seem to have been found and plugged thumbup

I've noticed that there is nothing along the front edge of the scuttle so all the water from the screen cascades down into the heater air intake scoops and the rest of the bulkhead at the back of the engine bay. Are they all like this? Or should there be a moulding along this edge to direct water to the edges of the engine bay? Something like [url]THIS|http://www.sealsdirect.co.uk/pdf/P43DR.pdf[url] maybe?

mrzigazaga

18,553 posts

165 months

Thursday 19th January 2017
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Hi mate...Id start looking inside..If you can put a couple of lead lights in the engine bay with the bonnet closed and have a look from inside up towards the bulkhead then you might see something your missing...smile

v8s4me

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Friday 20th January 2017
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Good suggestion and I have tried this. This method did show up a lot of obvious holes but unfortunately not areas of porous glass fibre if it has a coat of black paint on it. Also if a hole is clogged with dirt the light won't shine through, but the bloody water will still get in.

Good idea though. Please keep them coming.

mrzigazaga

18,553 posts

165 months

Friday 20th January 2017
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Wiper arm spindle....

v8s4me

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Friday 20th January 2017
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Good thinking, hadn't thought of that one.

v8s4me

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Saturday 21st January 2017
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It didn't take too much poking around to fine the thin spots where the water was seeping through. These were opened out into proper holes and then filled with GF. So that brings the total number of holes in the around the left foot well to 15!

Hose test tomorrow and see what happens.


The Hatter

988 posts

170 months

Saturday 21st January 2017
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Wow, very impressive detective work. Interesting stuff, gives me a lot to think about on my cars!

v8s4me

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Sunday 22nd January 2017
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The hose couldn't find any more leaks in the left foot well so, apart from the door seals (known known), that is that side sorted. For now anyway.

The right side was still leaking so there was nothing for it but to dig out all the last attempt and do it again...



Better luck this time thumbup

v8s4me

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Saturday 28th January 2017
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v8s4me said:
....Better luck this time.....
Or maybe not! It's better but still leaking so I'm still chasing down the source of the leaks through the hairline crack in the right bulkhead. This time I started working from the inside out. With a range of sharp pokey things and small drill bits I worked along the crack to try and find where it started. I had assumed that because of where the water was seeping through the crack was somewhere along the right angle join in the pictures above. Apart from one porous spot right in the corner the crack actually ran at an angle away from the corner joint and emerged as indicated by the red line in this photo....



Once the "track" was found it was opened up in stages and filled with thin layers of P40. This is one of the opened up "tracks"...



The new pink filler either side of the hole show where other "tracks" have been filled.

4th time lucky?

In between waiting for layers of P40 to dry, a little drip shield for the holes for some wiring and the clutch cable....



A cigar to anyone who can work out what this high tech component was originally intended for thumbup

phillpot

17,114 posts

183 months

Saturday 28th January 2017
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Not playing till I get my prize from last quiz

mrzigazaga

18,553 posts

165 months

Saturday 28th January 2017
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phillpot said:
Not playing till I get my prize from last quiz
It is the prize from the last quiz.....smile

adam quantrill

11,538 posts

242 months

Saturday 28th January 2017
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v8s4me said:
A cigar to anyone who can work out what this high tech component was originally intended for thumbup
Sealing up Kim Kardashian's bunghole?

v8s4me

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Saturday 28th January 2017
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Who? What? Where?

v8s4me

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Sunday 29th January 2017
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v8s4me said:
...4th time lucky?....
No! frown

5th maybe?

v8s4me

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Thursday 23rd February 2017
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7th in the end!

After last night's storm it looks like all the repairs to the tub have worked with the exception on the door seal on the driver's side. This is a brand new seal and it as tight as a ducks arredfacee all the way around. Nevertheless, water seems to be getting inside the channel and working its way down inside the space between the 'U' section and the lip on the tub and dripping out onto the inner sill and pooling in the foot well.

Strangely, the old door seal on the passenger side, which I haven't changed yet, didn't leak at all last night whereas up until now that has been the worst side mad

I've fitted new 'waist' seals to the windows but there is still water inside the bottom of the doors.

Any suggestions?

phillpot

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183 months

Thursday 23rd February 2017
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v8s4me said:
I've fitted new 'waist' seals to the windows but there is still water inside the bottom of the doors.

Any suggestions?
Drill holes in bottom of doors




adam quantrill

11,538 posts

242 months

Thursday 23rd February 2017
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v8s4me said:
I've fitted new 'waist' seals to the windows but there is still water inside the bottom of the doors.

Any suggestions?
Oooh that's not good - still water will get brackish and you might get midge or mosquito larvae growing in it.

Make sure you drive around at high speed especially round roundabouts and corners. The water will then move around and become aerated. With any luck, fish will return and even otters.

v8s4me

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Thursday 23rd February 2017
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adam quantrill said:
..........Oooh that's not good - still water will get brackish and you might get midge or mosquito larvae growing in it.....
OK, so it's off to the GP tomorrow to get jabs for malaria, dengue, West Nile virus, chikungunya, yellow fever, filariasis, Japanese encephalitis, Saint Louis encephalitis, Western equine encephalitis, Eastern equine encephalitis, Venezuelan equine encephalitis, La Crosse encephalitis and Zika fever.

If only fixing the soredfaceredfaceing leaks was so easy laugh

adam quantrill

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242 months

Thursday 23rd February 2017
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Actually my doors have holes in the bottom as factory fit, maybe they forgot yours, it stands to reason because water will run down the side of the glass.

So like he said, drill a few holes in the bottom, near the front hinge where they won't show, and empty under braking.

I still get the odd bit of glass coming out of mine after a spirited drive were my window got busted and bits ended up in the door.

v8s4me

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Thursday 23rd February 2017
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Thanks for the suggestions. There are a few holes in the bottom of the doors already so I don't think this the problem arises from water building up in there. The problem appears to be water getting between the the 'U' section of the door seal and the lip on the tub the seal clips on to. From here it runs down the inside of the seal and then runs out at the bottom where the seal clips over the sill. There lip just above the top door hinge looks suspect. Here the seal has to curve around the door frame and twist inwards at the same time.