Why are there so many traffic lights which Doesn't works?

Why are there so many traffic lights which Doesn't works?

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bagusbagus

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451 posts

87 months

Friday 31st March 2017
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example:
Like 70% of the time the green arrows doesn't even works.. if the green arrow isn't illuminated you aren't supposed to turn right= same as crossing under the red light... However I get damn pissed When I have to stop at the red light, and have to turn right - I obviously have to wait for the green arrow to come up as well IF there is One, NOT only the main green light before I can do so, but It just doesn't comes up most of the time, so I end up staying at the crossing and thinking wtf just happened, why it never came up and I get angry Drivers beeping at me for getting stuck at junctions because of those damn non-working lights.

So nowadays I just don't look at the arrow in places where I know they don't even work, if there are no cars and the main light is green I turn where I need... But what the hell? Am I a retard and not doing something correctly or those things simply doesn't work and are misleading drivers?




lucido grigio

44,044 posts

162 months

Friday 31st March 2017
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You do not have to wait for the green filter light to turn right ,if the road is clear ,turn.

Highway code RTFM.

how long have you been driving ?

bagusbagus

Original Poster:

451 posts

87 months

Friday 31st March 2017
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lucido grigio said:
You do not have to wait for the green filter light to turn right ,if the road is clear ,turn.

Highway code RTFM.

how long have you been driving ?
8years , I got my driving license in another country originally before I swapped it to UK one.
It's treated as you are crossing a Red light in rest of the Europe and of course you get the same fine as when crossing at red..
Wtf? I know few junctions local to me where I know the filter light works for sure everytime and everyone actually waits for it to turn green before entering the junction even if there isn't traffic so that just doesn't makes sense.

Edited by bagusbagus on Friday 31st March 00:22

RacingPete

8,845 posts

203 months

Friday 31st March 2017
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If the light is green you can turn right regardless, if there is a green arrow then that means traffic coming the other way is stopped so you can go.

Where you would not be allowed to turn right on a main green you would see this.


OldGermanHeaps

3,801 posts

177 months

Friday 31st March 2017
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Maybe try learning the laws of the land you are residing in?

bagusbagus

Original Poster:

451 posts

87 months

Friday 31st March 2017
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RacingPete said:
If the light is green you can turn right regardless, if there is a green arrow then that means traffic coming the other way is stopped so you can go.

Where you would not be allowed to turn right on a main green you would see this.

Yup, if there are no Extra sections present and its green you can turn right regardless, and IF there is a green arrow and it is illuminated the traffic is stopped and you can go. Based on those 2 things I have been driving all the time...

- but what If there physically is a green arrow section/filter light but It isn't illuminated? Based on my understanding that means I shouldn't be making the turn and wait for it to actually turn on & be illuminated -however in a lot of places it never happens. What purpose that green arrow section would even serve if it doesn't even works?


bagusbagus

Original Poster:

451 posts

87 months

Friday 31st March 2017
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OldGermanHeaps said:
Maybe try learning the laws of the land you are residing in?
It's Universal ,except few special signs in each country..
Do I have to ask you to study a massive law book of each country if you were to do an eurotrip and would cross 10countries?
That would make no sense.. hence the traffic laws are the same and universal and your drivers license is valid in all of them.


to3m

1,226 posts

169 months

Friday 31st March 2017
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bagusbagus said:
OldGermanHeaps said:
Maybe try learning the laws of the land you are residing in?
It's Universal ,except few special signs in each country..
Do I have to ask you to study a massive law book of each country if you were to do an eurotrip and would cross 10countries?
That would make no sense.. hence the traffic laws are the same and universal and your drivers license is valid in all of them.
But clearly... they aren't the same? Classic examples: priorite a droite, unlimited speed sections of the autobahn, French requirement for spare bulbs + emergency apparel, American concept of jaywalking, etc.

I doubt people do study the laws of each country before travelling there, because, typically, you can get away with it, but that doesn't mean the differences don't exist.

(BTW, don't know if you've noticed yet, but it's usual to drive on the left in the UK smile)

OldGermanHeaps

3,801 posts

177 months

Friday 31st March 2017
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Am i alone in spending a few hours reading up as much as i can about driving in a foreign country before actually driving in a foreign country? If driving across europe is universal have you not noticed the slight difference in the side the steering wheel is on? That might give a clue to the fact that differences exist.

Riley Blue

20,915 posts

225 months

Friday 31st March 2017
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bagusbagus said:
example:
Like 70% of the time the green arrows doesn't even works.. if the green arrow isn't illuminated you aren't supposed to turn right= same as crossing under the red light... However I get damn pissed When I have to stop at the red light, and have to turn right - I obviously have to wait for the green arrow to come up as well IF there is One, NOT only the main green light before I can do so, but It just doesn't comes up most of the time, so I end up staying at the crossing and thinking wtf just happened, why it never came up and I get angry Drivers beeping at me for getting stuck at junctions because of those damn non-working lights.

So nowadays I just don't look at the arrow in places where I know they don't even work, if there are no cars and the main light is green I turn where I need... But what the hell? Am I a retard and not doing something correctly or those things simply doesn't work and are misleading drivers?


In this instance, yes you are.



mgtony

4,013 posts

189 months

Friday 31st March 2017
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Everyone blasting their horns every time you sit at a green light should have given you an indication that perhaps green means 'go'. headache

Europa1

10,923 posts

187 months

Friday 31st March 2017
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OldGermanHeaps said:
Maybe try learning the laws of the land you are residing in?
Judging by the thread title, I'd say starting with learning the language would be a good start.

tomjol

532 posts

116 months

Friday 31st March 2017
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Perhaps you should change the title of the thread to "why didn't I look up how this actually works instead of just assuming then bhing about it"?

TooMany2cvs

29,008 posts

125 months

Friday 31st March 2017
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If the main green was straight-on only, it'd be a straight-on arrow.


Since it's not, just a simple round green - then it applies to all directions.

loudlashadjuster

5,082 posts

183 months

Friday 31st March 2017
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bagusbagus said:
It's Universal ,except few special signs in each country..
No, it's not.

bagusbagus said:
Do I have to ask you to study a massive law book of each country if you were to do an eurotrip and would cross 10countries?
Yes, in theory you should. It's not a massive book though.

bagusbagus said:
That would make no sense.. hence the traffic laws are the same and universal and your drivers license is valid in all of them.
See above smile

Oh, and don't take for granted that your licence is valid in a country. In many it will be for temporary residence, but not always. If you're staying in a country longer term then in most cases you will need to get a local licence at some point fairly soon after arrival.

blueg33

35,574 posts

223 months

Friday 31st March 2017
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Anyone driving on UK roads, especially residents should know the Highway Code. There are no real excuses if you live here.

RacingPete

8,845 posts

203 months

Friday 31st March 2017
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bagusbagus said:
- but what If there physically is a green arrow section/filter light but It isn't illuminated? Based on my understanding that means I shouldn't be making the turn and wait for it to actually turn on & be illuminated -however in a lot of places it never happens.
It means that traffic coming at you has been stopped by a red light, sometimes it is not needed and won't show if the lights deem so. You still can go!

eybic

9,212 posts

173 months

Friday 31st March 2017
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blueg33 said:
Anyone driving on UK roads, especially residents should know the Highway Code. There are no real excuses if you live here.
In this instance my example might not be relevant but when I took my test (1997) there was no such thing as an advanced stop line, this was introduced and the first I knew abut it was when I saw one. How often should I re-read the highway code to ensure nothing has changed and that I'm up to date? This IMHO is why we should have mandatory retests every 10 years ish or at least a mailing from the DVLA with any HC additions (there can't be that many each year of even each decade)

I bet that most people on the road think that NSL is one speed rather than varying dependant on the road layout, retests would change stuff like that imho.

TooMany2cvs

29,008 posts

125 months

Friday 31st March 2017
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eybic said:
In this instance my example might not be relevant but when I took my test (1997) there was no such thing as an advanced stop line, this was introduced and the first I knew abut it was when I saw one.
Sure about that?
https://trl.co.uk/reports/RR336

eybic

9,212 posts

173 months

Friday 31st March 2017
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TooMany2cvs said:
eybic said:
In this instance my example might not be relevant but when I took my test (1997) there was no such thing as an advanced stop line, this was introduced and the first I knew abut it was when I saw one.
Sure about that?
https://trl.co.uk/reports/RR336
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