Hi-spec Brake Up Grade pics

[Graham]

TaSmania said:

Graham, They look the dogs firkin's. Im like the fact that the brakets have put the calipers central to the centre line of the hub as the standard jobs are beloew centre. Any chance you could give me the dimension from the bell to hub bolting face to the back/engine side of the disc. Are they 28mm wide? Why? I've got 22mm X 300mm on mine with Alcon race calipers (Latter fitted later) and the Alcons need a 22mm and I don't want to make new caliper mounting brackets. TaS

yes the disks are 304*28mm

i take it the dimension your after is the width of the bell and disk combined ?

G

[AM400]

Graham said:

well i paid about 1300-1400 with the vat..... but AP are about the best. these are race calipers so dont have the extra dust seals for road use. so road calipers will probably be slightly less... they are very very light.... the 304mm disks and bells weigh about the same as the standard brembo vented i was running, but both 4 pot calipers weigh less than 1 standard thingy.... I'll let you know how they work after anglesey testing this weekend. I hope it doesnt snow... I made the mistake today of mentally adding up the cost per corner AP Caliper AP Disk and bell Nitron Damper cutom wishbones Chassis mods rose joints brake hoses F**K me..

Think I will just have to stand on my pedal a bit harder for the near future!

Andy

[Graham]

in my defence these are for racing so i do yuse the brakes a tad more than you would ( and should) for a road car..

For that kit that is a good price to

[rev-erend]

Nahh,

Maybe I'll just paint me princess 4 pots .. red with gold stripes - it's cheaper.

They work fine for me

[ian8542]

Graham, you could have bought 2 Cosworth engines for that!!!
I once bought a Hi-spec kit for the Chimaera 520.
When the discs got hot and expanded,they started cutting into the calipers at the bridging part.
Took weeks to sort it out, no refund of postage costs or anything.

[Graham]

that was what they cost but i didnt say i actually paid for them


tested the car at anglesey this weekend about 240 laps and the brakes are fantastic....

I had lots of people contact me about Hi-spec and after they failed to call me back ( even their kit came to about a grand all in for what i wanted)

I went else where and got the parts 2 weeks after initialy contacing AP and them passing me on to BG Developments, poping over to see them with a wheel finding the cash and placing the order !!! and they have to machine the bells and caliper mounts to order.

the parts were also a dream to fit almost fell together...


Ian have you got the 24valver running yet, will you be out for the first round ?

G

>> Edited by Graham on Monday 1st March 12:15

[Graham]

Gazboy said:

Is there anything to be gained with the various 'style' of disc? are there pros and cons to say: Grooved Drilled Or combo of the above?

I've been told from various sources that you only need grovved disks, drilling i think was originally to remove gas expelled from the pad, but these days pads dont gas up.

look at any race car and they only usually have grovved disks.

the holes can also cause stress fractures..

although drilled and grovved do look sexy

[ian8542]

Graham's right. Drilled discs can crack between the holes. I think there is a picture of this problem in Steve Heath's Griff/Chimaera bible.
They also block up with pad debris.

Graham
I will be trying the engine in the 'old' chassis this week hopefully.
I bought some bits & pieces from Garry Wilson and got a back body section and damaged chassis thrown in.
Other than a few damaged areas on this chassis, it is better than mine and slightly different (more advanced). So i will be using this.
I will be taking it to be stripped of the old powder coating and rust and then the mods will commence.
I have bought some new trailing arms (1 piece).
The old alloy ones fell apart when i tried to dismantle them. Just as well i am doing a full resto!
So it looks like i will miss Pembrey.

Ian

[Graham]

a Pity about pembrey, thats 2 rounds... i dont know if we drop rounds this year either...

We had 4 tasmins at anglesey

2 cosmins, joolz and mine.. and alteast one more cosmin has been ordered. ( 2ltr)

if you want a front for that back end you have.. i have an s2 and can make s1's

[ian8542]

I've just bought what's left of Bruce Smith and Ian Bannister's car, so i've plenty to go at, thanks anyway. How much are the front spoilers you can get ?
Has Joolz got the Cosworth V6 in already ?

Ian

[Graham]

which one the blue one that hit the wall at silverstone or the white one ?

front spoilers are about 80 quid ( I think thats the one panel the grp blokey actualy costed properly so he makes some cash!!) the spoilers i do fit the s1 cars and are light... he's popping one out for me at the mo as my current one is showing signs or wear...


I think Joolz and Colin are running with the existing 2.8i till it blows as its running well they are gutted to change it.

have you heard what stuarts doing



( Sorry thread hi-jack alert)

[ian8542]

It's thw white one which i don't think has hit any walls yet.
Do the spoilers have the fog lamp moulds etc, and are they a bit wider and deeper ?
If they are then i'll have one.
Just got back frompt car club meeting hence late reply.

regards
Ian

[Graham]

have a look at www.blackcatracing.net there is a pic with the spoiler on there (paint dont stick if you dont prime it!!!!)

they do have mouldings for fog lights you can just make them out ( ignore the daft lights bolted to them)

G

[ian8542]

Looks ok to me . How can you get one to me ?
Do you go by Team Proactive ? I could possibly get someone to collect and leave you some cash.

regards
Ian

[RichW]

Just been doing asearch on Google and happened across this page.

For anyone contemplating Hi-Spec brakes, i suggest you have a read of the webpage dedicated to them on my website :

http://homepages.nildram.co.uk/~richw426/brakes/brakes.htm


Rich.

www.lancermods.co.uk


*edited to say, if you wish to e-mail your horror stories then please feel free and i'll add them to the page.

>> Edited by RichW on Saturday 3rd April 21:29