My nightmare... errr restoration thread.

My nightmare... errr restoration thread.

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mike.williams

135 posts

199 months

Wednesday 1st July 2009
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They look great!
Can you tell me what effect the operating heat will have on their looks? Will they stay like that??
p.s. great work so far...
Don't make it too shiney... just in case you don't want to get it dirty!!!

TVRleigh_BBWR

6,552 posts

214 months

Wednesday 1st July 2009
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mike.williams said:
They look great!
Can you tell me what effect the operating heat will have on their looks? Will they stay like that??
p.s. great work so far...
Don't make it too shiney... just in case you don't want to get it dirty!!!
I think he's got us all drolling, If any girls was watching they would think we was watching porn wink

gsx600

2,740 posts

249 months

Wednesday 1st July 2009
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Is that a lambda sensor mounting point in the manifold as well ?

Brap_Brap

Original Poster:

753 posts

210 months

Wednesday 1st July 2009
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mike.williams said:
They look great!
Can you tell me what effect the operating heat will have on their looks? Will they stay like that??
p.s. great work so far...
Don't make it too shiney... just in case you don't want to get it dirty!!!
According to this FAQ http://www.moorepower.com/frequently_asked_questio...

[i]Q. I've seen headers at car shows that look like the coating is dull and grey looking near the top of the header. Why is that, and can your coatings do that?

A. The reason for this is that all metallic ceramic coatings, that have a polished aluminum to chrome finish have aluminum in the coating for the chrome look. Aluminum burns at 1300f. That is why the metalic ceramic coatings are rated at 1300f. At 1300f the aluminum in the coating burns and turns to a dull color. Yes ours, like ALL OTHER metallic ceramic coatings will go flat at over 1300f base metal temperature. We at least have the honesty to tell you this and explain why this happens! We can also advise you how to help avoid the problem from occuring.

Q. What can I do to help avoid the coating from burning?

A. The first thing is to avoid fuels with ethanol in them. The ethanol adds oxygen to the fuel which can raise the exhaust gas temperature above the limit for the coating. Tests have shown a 50f to 80f increase in egt with ethanol in fuel. Setting the ignition timing is also very important. Retarded ignition timing can actually cause some of the fuel mixture to burn in the header causing severly high egt's. Many of the universal electric choke carburators run very lean on the cruise circuit, which can often cause some burning of the coatings, that is ANY POLISHED LOOKING COATING. Richen the mixture up a couple of steps, and this is usually enough to take care of the issue. If you have an intake gasket leaking, there can be one of the cylinders running very lean causing one tube to burn.[/i]

Edited by Brap_Brap on Wednesday 1st July 15:48

Brap_Brap

Original Poster:

753 posts

210 months

Wednesday 1st July 2009
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TVRleigh_BBWR said:
Look very nice, are they mild steel coated ?? if so maybe tempted to do the system on the racer, over the winter.
No, not mild steel. It's stainless underneath.

Brap_Brap

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753 posts

210 months

Wednesday 1st July 2009
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Some very nasty looking stuff indeed. I couldn't let it remain like that.


Originally I'd painted the entire thing gun metal but upon seeing the end result it was too much of one colour. I stripped it clean one more time then painted the actuator arm thingys black to give them a pressed onto the shaft look. I think it's a nice touch.


The finished product.smile

If you paint your spring like I did, don't forget to paint it in an expanded state.

I can't wait to see all this back together. It's going to look astonishing for a DIY jobbie.

adam quantrill

11,538 posts

243 months

Wednesday 1st July 2009
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Mike, I think you should get something gold plated, if only the rocker cover bolts, or something like that ;^)

Brap_Brap

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753 posts

210 months

Thursday 2nd July 2009
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adam quantrill said:
Mike, I think you should get something gold plated, if only the rocker cover bolts, or something like that ;^)
I think I detect envy, sarcasm, or both. :P I think we should have a "lift your bonnet - prettiest engine bay" contest, forum wide. smile

Pffft! :P It's all apart, wire brushes, paint and primer are dirt cheap. If there ever was a time to do this TLC to the car the time is right now. So right now is when I'm going to do it.

What can I say Adam? I love the car and I want to give it my 110%. *shrug*

Continuing on with the thread...





The whole thing installed came out very nicely. Doing the remaining plemun part of the throttle linkage and various piping took a a couple of hours but the result was worth it. Despite what Adam says... :P

Edited by Brap_Brap on Thursday 2nd July 00:58

80tasmin

104 posts

186 months

Thursday 2nd July 2009
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Brap_Brap said:
adam quantrill said:
Mike, I think you should get something gold plated, if only the rocker cover bolts, or something like that ;^)
I think I detect envy, sarcasm, or both.
I don't see that.
I must give you credit for all the work you've done since this thread started.
Paul

adam quantrill

11,538 posts

243 months

Thursday 2nd July 2009
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Don't get me wrong, I think it'll look great when it's done, just don't overdo it, that's all.

Definitely a smiley face for mild sarcasm!

grahamw48

9,944 posts

239 months

Thursday 2nd July 2009
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Mike, we're all full of admiration for your hard work.

I'm sure Adam is just kidding.

Keep the reports coming. thumbup

rev-erend

21,421 posts

285 months

Thursday 2nd July 2009
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Just sometimes - you yanks just don't get humour mixed with mild sarcasm..

Lovely job you are doing there.. smile

cuneus

5,963 posts

243 months

Thursday 2nd July 2009
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Brap_Brap said:
I think we should have a "lift your hood - prettiest engine bay" contest, forum wide. smile
smile


EFA - like others think you are doing a great job and please keep posting

Brap_Brap

Original Poster:

753 posts

210 months

Thursday 2nd July 2009
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adam quantrill said:
Don't get me wrong, I think it'll look great when it's done, just don't overdo it, that's all.

Definitely a smiley face for mild sarcasm!
I know you were just teasing. OTOH, I've got a sense of humour too. smile
I've been considering having one single bolt gold plated, a plenum bolt or something, then naming the bolt Adam.

You just wait, I'll do it. wink

pwd95

8,383 posts

239 months

Thursday 2nd July 2009
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Brap_Brap said:
adam quantrill said:
Don't get me wrong, I think it'll look great when it's done, just don't overdo it, that's all.

Definitely a smiley face for mild sarcasm!
I know you were just teasing. OTOH, I've got a sense of humour too. smile
I've been considering having one single bolt gold plated, a plenum bolt or something, then naming the bolt Adam.

You just wait, I'll do it. wink
laugh

Brap_Brap

Original Poster:

753 posts

210 months

Thursday 2nd July 2009
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rev-erend said:
Just sometimes - you yanks just don't get humour mixed with mild sarcasm..

Lovely job you are doing there.. smile
Yank? OUCH! If you look in the western hemisphere on a globe, right above the 49th degree of latitude there's an insignificant "colony" of England called Canada.biggrin

pwd95

8,383 posts

239 months

Thursday 2nd July 2009
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Brap_Brap said:
rev-erend said:
Just sometimes - you yanks just don't get humour mixed with mild sarcasm..

Lovely job you are doing there.. smile
Yank? OUCH! If you look in the western hemisphere on a globe, right above the 49th degree of latitude there's an insignificant "colony" of England called Canada.biggrin
laugh

Ang on, I'll just get more wine. biggrin

Edited by pwd95 on Thursday 2nd July 22:32

adam quantrill

11,538 posts

243 months

Thursday 2nd July 2009
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Methinks the Right Rev knows exactly what Canada is, and he's pulling your chain...

Wasn't there a bit of France there too though?

Brap_Brap

Original Poster:

753 posts

210 months

Thursday 2nd July 2009
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adam quantrill said:
Methinks the Right Rev knows exactly what Canada is, and he's pulling your chain...

Wasn't there a bit of France there too though?
Entschuldigung, Sie bitte? Ich verstehe nicht.

This country was built by Scots, Krauts, Chinese and Ukranians for the most part. All the frogs ever did was bh about it and try to tear the country to pieces, and triumph gay rights.

Brap_Brap

Original Poster:

753 posts

210 months

Friday 3rd July 2009
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And now for today's adventure down the bottomless money pit...


Yuck!


*Puke*


This fitting was tighter than a chastite nun's C-word (that women hate so much) on a minus 35C day in December! After bending it, even with two wrenches, I got out the pneumatic impact gun... easy work of it.

  • Note: If you have to remove your oil cooler lines and things look corroded, use air power for the certainty you wont damage anything. In my case I got lucky. A bicycle tire pump, air pressure gauge, valve and an end cap proved to me it holds it's pressure and doesn't leak, but it's a pain in the arse waste of time. Do it right, use a pneumatic impact gun.

Complete mounting holes turned to dust.frown

I was thinking of doing a complete "box in" of the mounts at both ends and that box I could drill new mount holes into. IE: a sheet metal wrap-around on both ends.


I'd already lightly sprayed the tubes/fins with a silver engine enamel, ever so lightly as to not plug up the air passages. I masked it off then painted the sides/top/bottom gun metal, the fittings on it I painted black.


I realise painting your oil cooler in three different colours is obsessive and perhaps even mentally deranged, but the more I work with the car the more it becomes artistry and less and less of craftsmanship. Any chimpanzee can spray paint something a solid colour.

I'll try not to fall overboard boys... but damn, this does look good. biggrin

[edit] Wow, this is my fifth edit. I need to get my st together. laugh


I couldn't use a roll of masking tape today if my life depended on it. I'll have to sqaure things up tomorrow, but the over effect is very nice.

Yes, I do realise nobody will ever see this work, I'm just so sick of seeing corrosion of one sort or another it needs to be banished from my car.

[edit x6] Sixth edit, get your sh|t together Mike![/edit]

Edited by Brap_Brap on Friday 3rd July 02:39


Edited by Brap_Brap on Friday 3rd July 02:41