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firefox1712

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1,772 posts

256 months

Thursday 22nd January 2004
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Some people really have no idea!!!

Hi Steve - how are you - recovered?

stainless_steve

6,031 posts

259 months

Thursday 22nd January 2004
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firefox1712 said:
Some people really have no idea!!!

Hi Steve - how are you - recovered?

I'm ok thanks Firefox, but i don't think i rate the camomile tea the wife gave me. She said it would relax me
I'm having afew tonight

firefox1712

Original Poster:

1,772 posts

256 months

Thursday 22nd January 2004
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No Bomber t'nite - I don't think he'll show.

He did apologise, he didn't mean it, he's gone now - it's in the past.

Prescription - curry and beer in whichever order you prefer. (Do you drink beer on top of curry?)

cheers!
firefox

pies

13,116 posts

257 months

Thursday 22nd January 2004
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firefox1712 said:
Some people really have no idea!!!



tvr engineering said:


"A new chapter in TVR's history was introduced with the birth of the S which went into production in 1987. Although it looked superficially like the M Series, it was an all-new car and with its stunningly low price, it transformed TVR's fortunes and saw production almost double in a year"

stainless_steve

6,031 posts

259 months

Thursday 22nd January 2004
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I think we both said things we wish we hadn't.Bomber said he's had seven Wedges , maybe he would be helpful on this forum.Think he might have learnt something about them that could be useful to some of us.

skyrocketship

233 posts

264 months

Thursday 22nd January 2004
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he he he - lads oh lads oh lads - belt up will ya'll - remember you are just sitting behind a computer, typing things on a screen - YOU ARE WINDING YOURSELVES UP.

Steve at the end of the day mate, if you are going to put your car up for scrutiny in the mags etc, then you have to accept that some people are going to say things about it that you don't like......

So what if he thinks your car is bargain basement - who gives a feck what he thinks? I don't own a nice shiny SEAC - I gotta a humble 350i - say what you like about it, at the end of the day, almost everyone here is just a name on the screen - so why care??

wedg1e

26,807 posts

266 months

Thursday 22nd January 2004
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stainless_steve said:


Ian, i think you are talking about John Rutter, he owns a De Tomaso and a 420 SEAC.


No, it wasn't the guy who owned the Pantera... I was talking to a couple of guys about 390s (one gave me a magazine with an early 390 roadtest in it) when this other chap wandered over and joined in. That's who I thought Bomber might be.

d p - 400se

313 posts

251 months

Thursday 22nd January 2004
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Steve, I certainly dont think your cars bargain basement. Me, and im sure most of the other people reading this would LOVE to own a car as nice and as rare as yours. Even my missus said your car looked really nice in its recent mag article and she doesnt even like wedges!

firefox1712

Original Poster:

1,772 posts

256 months

Thursday 22nd January 2004
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Hey Pies -

Where did that quote from TVR Engineering come from?

The Genesis of all things TVR today(powerful V8 engine in light chassis with glassfibre bodywork to make very high performance cars - though of course they now manufacture their own 6 and V8 engines)is essentially the Wedge. They saw what they could do and the excitement it caused, and used the experience in doing it to generate new models.

I cannot and do not dispute the fact that the 'S' may have made the company a good deal of money, and quite possibly provided a good firm foundation upon which to take the company forward.

Can someone tell me if there are any similarities in the chassis of the Wedge and the 'S', and then the Griffith / Tuscan?

Interesting thread after all.

firefox

firefox1712

Original Poster:

1,772 posts

256 months

Thursday 22nd January 2004
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Steve -

Bomber lists the Wedges he's had on the previous page

pies

13,116 posts

257 months

Thursday 22nd January 2004
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quote here

note its copyright TVR

The "S" cars Wedge and Griff cars IMHO share similar chassis but there will no doubt be differences
Not sure on the Tusc though

Zorro

4,393 posts

283 months

Thursday 22nd January 2004
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'However, it was the Griffith that was really responsible for TVR's renaissance.'

I rest my holdall.

pies

13,116 posts

257 months

Thursday 22nd January 2004
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No, if the "S" failed and remember it was a good 5 years before the griff,TVR would have failed and the griff would never have existed

Still i agree it is the car people talk about

Zorro

4,393 posts

283 months

Thursday 22nd January 2004
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I think that 3 things really made TVR

1. Lumping the V8 in the wedge
2. Building the S, that kept them ticking over til..
3. The Griff

All IMHO of course.

pies

13,116 posts

257 months

Thursday 22nd January 2004
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So where does the Chim fit in

gf350

805 posts

267 months

Friday 23rd January 2004
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I have found that its very surprising how many people you meet today that know what the tvr wedge looks like (even people that arn't really car people), though the model names might not mean a lot to them.
Considering how few of these were made it obviously leaves some sort of impression and in my opinion helped raise awareness of TVR in the 80's and loose the kit car image.

TaSmania

782 posts

264 months

Friday 23rd January 2004
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GF - I have to agree & disagree with you. Agree the Wedge was a distinctive feature of TVR history but it certainly did not dispel the kit car image (it didn't really add to it either - neutal IMHO - the kit image is just a tag for a GRP car with other car parts in it) - With the Jag rear end, granny/cortina front and odd's and sods inside (stalks, switches, gearknobs, etc) it didn't help which is specifically why the later cars Griff and Chimp use more TVR designed bits. I like all of us here get Fu**ed off when some 'richard head' sais thats Cortina - it's just a glorified Kit - this has happened at two garages in the past - needless to say they didn't get my business again.
Zorro - IMHO your right. V8 in the Wedge got TVR through the early/mid 80's, the S and the BBW's got them through to and generated cash flow to produce the Griff which was the start of the current renaissence. Interestingly though I don't believe the current production volumes are much higher than they were in the late 80's - could be wrong though - (Automotive News Europe source)
Blah, blah, yawn, etc
GB

rev-erend

21,422 posts

285 months

Friday 23rd January 2004
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Pies only ever comes on this forum to wind us up .. ever noticed that ...

Nice car the S - poor mans MG !

firefox1712

Original Poster:

1,772 posts

256 months

Friday 23rd January 2004
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Thanks Rev -

A number of people seem to have missed my point - but those with real intelligence and understanding obviously don't!

stainless_steve

6,031 posts

259 months

Friday 23rd January 2004
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There's one thing for sure the SEAC's did not help TVR out financially. Its reported they lost money on them .