Fuel system

Fuel system

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cuneus

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5,963 posts

242 months

Tuesday 29th December 2009
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Does anyone know what the vertical cylinder below numbers 50 and 49 is and it's purpose ?


B@man

1,486 posts

204 months

Tuesday 29th December 2009
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Swirl pot - Ensures that fuel pump and engine have a supply of fuel when you are cornering, without the swirl pot the fuel moving about in tank can cause the pump to suck in air (as the fuel moves away from the tank outlet) causing the engine to run lean or cut out completely.

I believe the later cars have the swirl pot and T-piece (part ref 40) as one part (mine is anyway). RTR stock replacements if yours is past it's best.

Edited by B@man on Tuesday 29th December 10:29

Bobbybedtime

71 posts

179 months

Tuesday 29th December 2009
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Hi,
Its a swirl pot and I believe it de-aerates the fuel.
It may hace a mesh filter inside, I'm sure someone will advise.
Regards,
BBT.

Number 7

4,103 posts

262 months

Tuesday 29th December 2009
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As said, it's the swirl pot. I replaced mine this year with a new one from RT Racing - about £75'ish IIRC. The breather pipe next to the T piece is very small diameter, and needs a proper fuel hose clip to secure it - I found that ordinary worm drive clips are not small enough, and don't grip properly. I would also strongly suggest that all these hoses are fully fitted to the swirl pot prior to installation, as it's very difficult to access the clips once in place.

7.

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Edited by Number 7 on Tuesday 29th December 11:13




Edited by Number 7 on Tuesday 29th December 11:16

cuneus

Original Poster:

5,963 posts

242 months

Tuesday 29th December 2009
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Thanks for the replies - much appreciated

Number7 it's definitely not the same part as the one you have pictured - there is only one connection from the fuel tank

Number 7

4,103 posts

262 months

Tuesday 29th December 2009
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cuneus said:
Thanks for the replies - much appreciated

Number7 it's definitely not the same part as the one you have pictured - there is only one connection from the fuel tank
Maybe later cars were changed? My swirl pot connects directly to the 2 tank outlets. Plus in that manual, there does not seem to be a breather from the swirl pot. Don't you just love the variations in manufacture!

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cuneus

Original Poster:

5,963 posts

242 months

Tuesday 29th December 2009
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Number 7 said:
cuneus said:
Thanks for the replies - much appreciated

Number7 it's definitely not the same part as the one you have pictured - there is only one connection from the fuel tank
Maybe later cars were changed? My swirl pot connects directly to the 2 tank outlets. Plus in that manual, there does not seem to be a breather from the swirl pot. Don't you just love the variations in manufacture!

7.
smile

Does yours have a filter inside ?

Number 7

4,103 posts

262 months

Tuesday 29th December 2009
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cuneus said:
Does yours have a filter inside ?
New one - no. Old one, no idea, not opened it up, but I suspect not. The crap in the picture is what I managed to shake out of the old one. I addition, based on suggestions here, I installed the filter pictured between the swirl pot and the pump. The normal filter is still there downstream of the pump.

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Wedg1e

26,803 posts

265 months

Friday 12th March 2010
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Number 7 said:
cuneus said:
Does yours have a filter inside ?
New one - no. Old one, no idea, not opened it up, but I suspect not. The crap in the picture is what I managed to shake out of the old one. I addition, based on suggestions here, I installed the filter pictured between the swirl pot and the pump. The normal filter is still there downstream of the pump.

7.
Opened it up yet? biggrin Fancy having a pop at making one, before my car actually needs it...

Number 7

4,103 posts

262 months

Friday 12th March 2010
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Wedg1e said:
Opened it up yet? biggrin Fancy having a pop at making one, before my car actually needs it...
Don't you ever sleep Wedg1e?

I'll take the hacksaw to it today and report backsmile

7.

Wedg1e

26,803 posts

265 months

Friday 12th March 2010
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Number 7 said:
Don't you ever sleep Wedg1e?
Until I'm six feet under I won't need a bed
Gonna live while I'm alive, I'll sleep when I'm dead biggrin


Number 7 said:
I'll take the hacksaw to it today and report backsmile
Ta. smile I'm guessing it'll be mostly empty... wobble

Number 7

4,103 posts

262 months

Friday 12th March 2010
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Well look what I found:



The filter is plastic body with a very fine plastic mesh, and is a push-fit to the outlet.

HTH Wedg1e.

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Solitude

1,902 posts

175 months

Monday 14th June 2010
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Does anyone have a swirl pot 4sale like the one in the diagram that is in decent nick ????

TVRleigh_BBWR

6,552 posts

213 months

Tuesday 15th June 2010
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Number 7 said:
Well look what I found:



The filter is plastic body with a very fine plastic mesh, and is a push-fit to the outlet.

HTH Wedg1e.

7.
All the original swirl pots had filters in, but all the new ali ones don't hence the need to use a pre-filter before the fuel pump, unless you want to change pump every 6 months

Wedg1e

26,803 posts

265 months

Monday 24th June 2013
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Aha, thanks Seven, hadn't seen this all that time back!
ETA: Why did you change it, it looks pretty good to me...? Send me the bits up and I'll weld it back together biggrin

I'd better make room for a pre-filter as well, just in case my filter only got dislodged when I took the swirl pot off. Mind you the tanks are pretty spotless inside, no cr%p rattling around when I emptied them... but it'd be an expensive ommission after all this work.

Edited by Wedg1e on Monday 24th June 18:38

Number 7

4,103 posts

262 months

Monday 24th June 2013
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Aaahh...so you were asleep then biggrin
I only changed it on the basis that the pot and hoses were 20+ years old, and it would have been almost impossible to change them with the pot in situ (especially the small one at the top), plus I didn't know how much muck was inside it. Just made sense to replace it all at the same time and add the pre-filter.

Solitude

1,902 posts

175 months

Monday 24th June 2013
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Holy thread resurrection Batman !!!