Petition to Welsh Govt. against 20mph limit

[Tyre Tread]

Mercdriver said:

Live in Scotland but signed this because it is wrong, only time before the idiots up here change this limit in Scotland too.

Cars emit more fumes in a low gear and higher revs so how is this going to improve air quality.

Sounds like a cynical way of increasing revenue by fining anyone, ie everyone, driving at over 20 MPH

It is more sinister than just the fines IMHO. It's the Gov't (in this case Welsh) making travelling by car more frustrating and less advantageous to reduce car usage and drive people onto the (non existent) public transport network or to go by foot or cycle. A move towards the 15 minute city.

The beginning of the end for the car I'm afraid.

[Athlon]

224,640 signatures now on the petition!

[Spevs]

Athlon said:

224,640 signatures now on the petition!

Unfortunately, it will need to get way over a million for anyone to take any notice of it.................

[Mercdriver]

I doubt if even a million would persuade governments to change back to thirty once implemented.

A politician admitting they made a mistake? No chance, think of the uproar from the public if they had to change back all the road signs to 30.

[SAB888]

More great news (not);

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-66802849

[BoRED S2upid]

Spevs said:

Athlon said:

224,640 signatures now on the petition!

Unfortunately, it will need to get way over a million for anyone to take any notice of it.................

A million would be like half the population!

[S47]

Sadly its a fact in Wales anyone/thing wearing a Red rosette is gonna get voted in
So Dumb MS's in red feel safe enough to show the 2 fingered solute to everyone in Wales 'Dai Price' - AKA Mark whatever his name is must feel similarly empowered

[Spevs]

BoRED S2upid said:

Spevs said:

Athlon said:

224,640 signatures now on the petition!

Unfortunately, it will need to get way over a million for anyone to take any notice of it.................

A million would be like half the population!

Population in Wales is just over 3 Million at last census.

[Alickadoo]

Spevs said:

BoRED S2upid said:

Spevs said:

Athlon said:

224,640 signatures now on the petition!

Unfortunately, it will need to get way over a million for anyone to take any notice of it.................

A million would be like half the population!

Population in Wales is just over 3 Million at last census.

Two million is a bit like three million, it's only one away.

[Niponeoff]

Alickadoo said:

Spevs said:

BoRED S2upid said:

Spevs said:

Athlon said:

224,640 signatures now on the petition!

Unfortunately, it will need to get way over a million for anyone to take any notice of it.................

A million would be like half the population!

Population in Wales is just over 3 Million at last census.

Two million is a bit like three million, it's only one away.

If you consider the driving population, it won't be far off 50%

[Athlon]

322,892 signatures now. Still growing !

[ATG]

S47 said:

Sadly its a fact in Wales anyone/thing wearing a Red rosette is gonna get voted in
So Dumb MS's in red feel safe enough to show the 2 fingered solute to everyone in Wales 'Dai Price' - AKA Mark whatever his name is must feel similarly empowered

Except it isn't a fact which is why Labour could only form a minority government with the support of Plaid.

And the second biggest party in the Senedd, the Conservatives, what has their stance been on this issue? A quick google for "Andrew RT Davies 20 plenty" reveals all. Opportunistic, intellectually bankrupt, ...

Drakeford, far from being some megalomaniac on a power trip, is a decent and trustworthy bloke who tries to do the right thing. I've never voted Labour and that is the view I have heard first hand from the leadership of one of the opposition parties.

[Tyre Tread]

ATG said:

Drakeford, far from being some megalomaniac on a power trip, is a decent and trustworthy bloke who tries to do the right thing. .

Yes, we all believe that. No, honestly we do. Really.