Bin spying?

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crankedup

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244 months

Tuesday 29th August 2006
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Having read the report in newspaper I decided to have a look see if my domestic waste was being spied upon via the 'bugging device'. Sure enough I found a bug on each of the rubbish bins. Seems that mid suffolk council has an urge to intrude into waste bins. Fine or foul?

BliarOut

72,857 posts

240 months

Tuesday 29th August 2006
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Probably inactive. I queried my council about it once I realised they had fitted them and they replied pretty quickly. Won't do any harm to confirm with yours though

www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&f=141&t=301837&p=3

simpo two

85,553 posts

266 months

Tuesday 29th August 2006
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Why fit inactive bugs?

Microwave it and put it back!

BliarOut

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Tuesday 29th August 2006
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simpo two said:
Why fit inactive bugs?

Microwave it and put it back!
Because it's cheaper in the long run. Had a fairly lengthy reply back from the council about it. At the moment it's about councils having the intent to use the technology rather than actually deploying it. They accepted my point about green bins moving from household to household too

Be interesting to see if Suffolk are actually using them or not.

simpo two

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Tuesday 29th August 2006
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BliarOut said:
At the moment it's about councils having the intent to use the technology rather than actually deploying it.


Reminds me of those 'temporary speed limts' which magically all became permanent no matter how hard anyone complained. Preset agenda? You bet.

So they 'haven't deployed it' but 'intend to use it'... sounds like the same thing to me, just seperated by the push of a button.

Anyway, I'm in the clear - all I get from Herr Council is one black bag a week.

Edited by simpo two on Tuesday 29th August 17:18

V8 EOL

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223 months

Tuesday 29th August 2006
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It may be a stupid question but... what does it look like? I am in the South Cambridgeshire District Council area so dont know if we have them yet.

BliarOut

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Tuesday 29th August 2006
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V8 EOL said:
It may be a stupid question but... what does it look like? I am in the South Cambridgeshire District Council area so dont know if we have them yet.

Picture here:www.deister.com/content/english/id

simpo two

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266 months

Tuesday 29th August 2006
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Site says: 'Increased customer confidence and perceived value for money'

Good grief, yes, my confidence suddenly became far greater when I saw my bin had an RFID in it... bounce banghead


As for 'perceived', well of course that means 'not real'...

However they forgot one line 'Allows you to fine taxpayers for being naughty'. Maybe that bit was verbal








crankedup

Original Poster:

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Tuesday 29th August 2006
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Simpo 2 and I are like minded on this one. Mid Suffolk said to me early this year that it no longer provides a 'free at point of delivery' vermin extermination service. Apparently cannot afford it, but it seems they can afford to fit these bugs and the 15k readers to each dustcart. furious

simpo two

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Wednesday 30th August 2006
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Have you pointed that out to them Dave?

M-G

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261 months

Wednesday 30th August 2006
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Had our new bins deliviered in Suffolk coastal area and we don't have any devices fitted, but if they appear in the future the mircowave idea sounds good!

simpo two

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266 months

Wednesday 30th August 2006
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In retrospect the only snag is that they might then fine you for damaging Council property. Probably best to prise the critter out and put it back with a note thanking them for their thoughtfulness but that saying you didn't order it and that it contravenes your Human Rights of Wotsit.

jasandjules

69,945 posts

230 months

Wednesday 30th August 2006
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What if someone else took it/damaged it?

This will be used in the months to come to increase our council tax by charging us per kilo of waste we throw out.

Simply a money making scheme in the wings.

simpo two

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266 months

Wednesday 30th August 2006
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jasandjules said:
This will be used in the months to come to increase our council tax by charging us per kilo of waste we throw out.

Do dustcarts have scales?

Anyway, if the only criterion is weight, not content, I shall set up a company disposing of asbestos

BliarOut

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240 months

Wednesday 30th August 2006
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jasandjules said:
What if someone else took it/damaged it?

This will be used in the months to come to increase our council tax by charging us per kilo of waste we throw out.

Simply a money making scheme in the wings.
Bins are left out on the street for collection. Who's to say who damaged the transponder while it was out there?

V8 EOL

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Wednesday 30th August 2006
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simpo two said:
Do dustcarts have scales?

They are developing the trucks hydraulic lifters to detect the load and therefore weight.

simpo two

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266 months

Wednesday 30th August 2006
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V8 EOL said:
They are developing the trucks hydraulic lifters to detect the load and therefore weight.

Which seems to have nothing to do with recycling at all! Either you charge by weight, which in the absence of other schemes seems reasonable, or you don't. I'm not sure which is more important, weight or volume.

And of course it just means that people will dump heavy stuff in the hedgerows...

crankedup

Original Poster:

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Wednesday 30th August 2006
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I have removed each of the spy devices, one from the kitchen waste bin and other from recycle bin. I have decided to wait for the council to make a first move. Should be fun idea

I shall post up the unfolding story.

simpo two

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Wednesday 30th August 2006
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'The great Middle England fightback begins. He's called Dave, he's got an Austin Windsor and he's out to kick butt.'


Gentlemen, I think we have a new TV series here




NB: You may want to join the main thread here: www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?t=301837&f=141&h=0&p=3


Edited by simpo two on Wednesday 30th August 20:12

crankedup

Original Poster:

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Wednesday 30th August 2006
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BLIMY, I've just had a look at the other thread. And I thought the council were just after me hehe