Special Interest Vehicle permits

[hurricane_82]

Redmist336 said:

Trying to get a TVR LVV certed would be next to impossible. I'd be waiting for the SIV number rollover and make sure you're one of the first on the list.

That's exactly what i'm doing and i've also switched my insurance to Prestigio so that i'm covered for the occasional driver training / track day usage in the mean time while I wait. It's going to be a long 5 months but totally worth it when the summer is upon us.

[N1CERB]

I am one of the lucky 11, after waiting now for two years in total for them to get their act togther. We first tried down the migrant route and was actually what Jim applied for on my behalf. But for some reason they changed my application without telling us and so I am now on SIV. I could have done this from the start and saved a year had I known!!

Fingers crossed my Cerb will be finally on the road very soon!

What is the cut off year for classic by the way??

Cheers

[Esprit]

N1CERB said:

I am one of the lucky 11, after waiting now for two years in total for them to get their act togther. We first tried down the migrant route and was actually what Jim applied for on my behalf. But for some reason they changed my application without telling us and so I am now on SIV. I could have done this from the start and saved a year had I known!!

Fingers crossed my Cerb will be finally on the road very soon!

What is the cut off year for classic by the way??

Cheers

Classic is 40 years I think from memory.

Is yours the Cerb in at Jim's at the moment? I saw it yesterday if so

[Caterhamfan]

Esprit said:

N1CERB said:

I am one of the lucky 11, after waiting now for two years in total for them to get their act togther. We first tried down the migrant route and was actually what Jim applied for on my behalf. But for some reason they changed my application without telling us and so I am now on SIV. I could have done this from the start and saved a year had I known!!

Fingers crossed my Cerb will be finally on the road very soon!

What is the cut off year for classic by the way??

Cheers

Classic is 40 years I think from memory.

That's right:

"Once a vehicle is 40 years or older it is no longer subject to Continuous Vehicle Licensing (CVL) and the licensing and registration fees are reduced.

A vehicle turns 40 years old on the first of January regardless of the month it was registered. For example, a 1960 vehicle would turn 40 years old on the first of January 2000.

Our system recognises the year a vehicle turns 40 and automatically adjusts any details as necessary (i.e. the licence fees are automatically amended to reflect the new fees).

Kind Regards

NZ Transport Agency"

[N1CERB]

Yes my Cerb is at Jims place, its been there almost two years now belive it or not!! Good news though, I passed compliance yesterday. Get in!!

Is the year for bringing in a vehicle from overseas easier once it goes past a certain age or does the same 40 year rolling figure work for that also? For some reason I have 1986 in my mind. I will have to go do some research.

Thinking of getting a 3000M or S Series you see.

Cheers...

[Esprit]

N1CERB said:

Yes my Cerb is at Jims place, its been there almost two years now belive it or not!! Good news though, I passed compliance yesterday. Get in!!

Is the year for bringing in a vehicle from overseas easier once it goes past a certain age or does the same 40 year rolling figure work for that also? For some reason I have 1986 in my mind. I will have to go do some research.

Thinking of getting a 3000M or S Series you see.

Cheers...

In terms of bringing a vehicle in, I think as long as it's pre'89 it should be okay. It'll still need to pass entry certification. that date is not rolling though, it's fixed so don't think that in a few years you can bring in a '92 Griff without a SIV.

[uncinqsix]

Esprit said:

In terms of bringing a vehicle in, I think as long as it's pre'89 it should be okay. It'll still need to pass entry certification. that date is not rolling though, it's fixed so don't think that in a few years you can bring in a '92 Griff without a SIV.

Frontal impact is rolling 20, Emissions will (if all goes to plan) be rolling 20 from next year, and that just leaves a few others like seatbelt anchorages etc that are fixed at 1990 or thereabouts (and not able to the circumvented by SIV). If you ask nicely and have a British National Type Approval plate on the car, it is possible to get an exemption for those (as Mr Redmist will testify).

[mark387mw]

Are there still plenty of LHD permits left?
I've found a 2008 Corvette coupe. Is there anyone I can check with to ensure it meets the criteria before I pay for a permit?

[uncinqsix]

mark387mw said:

Are there still plenty of LHD permits left?
I've found a 2008 Corvette coupe. Is there anyone I can check with to ensure it meets the criteria before I pay for a permit?

I think there are still plenty of LHD permits left. I'll ask the permit bloke what Corvette models have been issued permits so far and get back to you.

[mark387mw]

uncinqsix said:

I think there are still plenty of LHD permits left. I'll ask the permit bloke what Corvette models have been issued permits so far and get back to you.

Thanks for that. I'm getting a report back today on the car.

I'm sure it'll meet 3 of the 4 following criteria but who can confirm this? The build number for that year was 20,030 coupes

• The vehicle (or its make, model and submodel) is identified as being a collector's item in a commercially produced motoring publication.
• The vehicle's make and model and submodel has been (or was) manufactured in annual volumes of 20,000 units or less.
• The vehicle is, and was manufactured as, a two-door coupe or a convertible.
• The vehicle is, and was manufactured as, a high-performance vehicle.

[dobly]

I'm looking at getting a Honda NSX Type S from Japan in the not too distant future - I'm looking at cars made in 1999-2001 at present.

The numbers made were very small - 225 over 9 years ('97-'05).

Which category would this car come under - SIV or LVV ? and what difference will it make to the process?

Any help greatly appreciated.

[uncinqsix]

mark387mw said:

uncinqsix said:

I think there are still plenty of LHD permits left. I'll ask the permit bloke what Corvette models have been issued permits so far and get back to you.

Thanks for that. I'm getting a report back today on the car.

I'm sure it'll meet 3 of the 4 following criteria but who can confirm this? The build number for that year was 20,030 coupes

• The vehicle (or its make, model and submodel) is identified as being a collector's item in a commercially produced motoring publication.
• The vehicle's make and model and submodel has been (or was) manufactured in annual volumes of 20,000 units or less.
• The vehicle is, and was manufactured as, a two-door coupe or a convertible.
• The vehicle is, and was manufactured as, a high-performance vehicle.

So, it meets the last 2 obviously, misses out on the build volume, which leaves the only questionable bit the first one. Let me put it this way - the SIV permit team has not yet had to decline any Corvette, and so far nobody has had any problems meeting the "identified as collectable in a magazine" criteria where Corvettes are concerned. There is quite a bit of flexibility there.

I'll PM you Mr Permit's contact details so you can talk it over with him directly if you like.

dobly said:

I'm looking at getting a Honda NSX Type S from Japan in the not too distant future - I'm looking at cars made in 1999-2001 at present.

The numbers made were very small - 225 over 9 years ('97-'05).

Which category would this car come under - SIV or LVV ? and what difference will it make to the process?

Any help greatly appreciated.

Use the SIV system - it'll be considerably more straightforward (and cheaper) than LVV either way.

[mark387mw]

uncinqsix said:

So, it meets the last 2 obviously, misses out on the build volume, which leaves the only questionable bit the first one. Let me put it this way - the SIV permit team has not yet had to decline any Corvette, and so far nobody has had any problems meeting the "identified as collectable in a magazine" criteria where Corvettes are concerned. There is quite a bit of flexibility there.

I'll PM you Mr Permit's contact details so you can talk it over with him directly if you like.

Got the PM thank you. I'll call Mr Permit tomorrow.

I've also spoken to Corvette anoraks that tell me there should be a 'master list' of SIV LHD already approved cars so if one has been allowed in, then so should another.
Another thing regarding build numbers, of the 20,030 built there were 234 Indy Pace Cars built. This leaves 19,796 base model Corvettes so now qualifies??

[uncinqsix]

mark387mw said:

Got the PM thank you. I'll call Mr Permit tomorrow.

I've also spoken to Corvette anoraks that tell me there should be a 'master list' of SIV LHD already approved cars so if one has been allowed in, then so should another.
Another thing regarding build numbers, of the 20,030 built there were 234 Indy Pace Cars built. This leaves 19,796 base model Corvettes so now qualifies??

Well there you go then. The pace cars could perhaps be classed as a different submodel, so that would probably work. I don't envisage any problems whichever way you slice it. Mr Permit will be able to tell you what's on the "master list" too.

[mark387mw]

Mr Permit is a busy chap today, I'm unable to get hold of him.
Is it 'POETS' day?

[jamieheasman]

Have they changed the LVV rules in the last couple of years? Last time I looked it was the total production from a manufacturer not the specific model. At one point this meant that a TVR built at the end of the company's production life (2006) could sneak in but nothing prior.

Also, the 'classic' car status used to be 20 years old - have they changed that as well?

It has been a few years since I was aggressively pursuing the ability to bring in a TVR so it's probably all completely different.

[coupe20vtnz]

When I did a Rover Mini Cooper a few years ago - they took production of ALL Mini's for the year of the car - not just Coopers....

I have submitted my 2013 application for a Lancia Delta integrale....I also understand there is a guy in christchurch that has 11 vehicles already lined up for 2013 SIV....

[uncinqsix]

coupe20vtnz said:

I also understand there is a guy in christchurch that has 11 vehicles already lined up for 2013 SIV....

I hope he's not planning on getting permits for all 11 himself...

[Dan M]

jamieheasman said:

Have they changed the LVV rules in the last couple of years? Last time I looked it was the total production from a manufacturer not the specific model. At one point this meant that a TVR built at the end of the company's production life (2006) could sneak in but nothing prior.

According to the frontal impact rule 2008, for an SIV it used to be:
"the vehicle’s make and model has been (or was) manufactured in annual volumes of 20,000 units or less"
Then the 2011 amendment changed it to:
"the vehicle’s make, model and sub-model has been (or was) manufactured in annual volumes of 20,000 units or less;" and this was explained thus:
"The amendment Rule brings the production criteria for 'special interest vehicles' into line with the equivalent permit criterion for left-hand-drive vehicles in Land Transport Rule: Steering Systems 2001, which is that not more than 20,000 vehicles of that make, model and sub-model are produced annually. Removing this inconsistency means that a special interest vehicle that needs permits under both Rules, but which may have only qualified for one, will now meet the annual production volume criteria for both."

You are probably thinking of the definition of a low volume vehicle, which included the wording "manufactured, assembled or scratch-built in quantities of 200 or less at any one location in any one year, by a manufacturer whose total production of motor vehicles does not exceed 200 units over the same period".
This has also now changed:
"make and model of a vehicle... manufactured, assembled or scratch-built in quantities of 500 or less in any one year"

This last part opens up the low volume vehicle criteria to more vehicles, like a lot of TVRs, but one hasn't gone through this route yet so it isn't clear how it would work. Stu, any comment?

[uncinqsix]

Dan M said:

This last part opens up the low volume vehicle criteria to more vehicles, like a lot of TVRs, but one hasn't gone through this route yet so it isn't clear how it would work. Stu, any comment?

I'm not entirely sure what went on with the latest amendment to the LVV definition. It's a bit odd the way they did it...