emmigrating to New Zealand

[grand cherokee]

thinking very seriously about this - in my view this country is on the decline and no sign of it getting any better - Europe/Islamification/EU migrants etc etc

not forgetting Iran/North Korea

anyone here done it?

i'm 59 yrs old - single - and enough money to support myself over there (yes, i know about the investment/maintenance sums)

main attractions - shooting/fishing and 'nature' - can take my Range Rover without import duty and good dealer network - plus they drive on the 'proper' side of the road!

i may retire or may invest in a fishing venture?

good and bad comments appreciated

thanks

[Mobile Chicane]

Have you actually been to New Zealand?

It has its problems too with immigration, crime, the Nanny State and suffocating political correctness.

[grand cherokee]

Mobile Chicane said:

Have you actually been to New Zealand?

It has its problems too with immigration, crime, the Nanny State and suffocating political correctness.

been there - have friends living there

nothing like the UK - immigration rules are so strict you don't get economic refugees/EU dross like the UK

to 'retire' i'd have to invest about £350K for two years/£250K in maintenance fund/£30K pa income from pensions etc - thats what this country should do - how many Eastern Europeans could meet that criteria?

[grand cherokee]

not sure on South/North Island?

north has the best fishing at Taupo but the south has the best deer stalking - if the rest of lifes choices were so easy?

[Jasandjules]

At the moment I would say that I would if I could take my animals with me easily.

[arguti]

grand cherokee said:

to 'retire' i'd have to invest about £350K for two years/£250K in maintenance fund/£30K pa income from pensions etc - thats what this country should do - how many Eastern Europeans could meet that criteria?

Is that under the investor route?

I thought you needed to bring over more funds http://www.immigration.govt.nz/migrant/stream/inve...

To go down the temporary retirement route you need to 66 or older

Edited by arguti on Saturday 9th March 13:23

[grand cherokee]

arguti said:

Is that under the investor route?

I thought you needed to bring over more funds http://www.immigration.govt.nz/migrant/stream/inve...

To go down the temporary retirement route you need to 66 or older

Edited by arguti on Saturday 9th March 13:23

there are various options regarding investment etc

i'm contracting a specialist company next week to discuss options - i could happily invest in a sport boat fishing venture or even open a tackle dealership - big market in NZ for 'old' european tackle esp House of Hardy

[grand cherokee]

Jasandjules said:

At the moment I would say that I would if I could take my animals with me easily.

is taking dogs a problem? - both UK and NZ are rabies free afaik?

[ClaphamGT3]

Why would you want to see out your dotage in the most boring country on earth?

Its basically a slightly up-market Wales - moderately attractive country-side, interspersed with small, ugly, dull towns full of backward, bigoted in-bred people who can't decide to use a first class stamp without state approval

[grand cherokee]

ClaphamGT3 said:

Why would you want to see out your dotage in the most boring country on earth?

Its basically a slightly up-market Wales - moderately attractive country-side, interspersed with small, ugly, dull towns full of backward, bigoted in-bred people who can't decide to use a first class stamp without state approval

lake taupo/marlin/yellowfin tuna/red deer/sika/roe/english style pheasant shooting etc etc - seems like heaven to me?


don't know where you have been but the towns i've seen are far from ugly/dull - think your talking about the UK?

and backward/bigoted/inbred describes the UK to a tee!

[ClaphamGT3]

grand cherokee said:

lake taupo/marlin/yellowfin tuna/red deer/sika/roe/english style pheasant shooting etc etc - seems like heaven to me?


don't know where you have been but the towns i've seen are far from ugly/dull - think your talking about the UK?

and backward/bigoted/inbred describes the UK to a tee!

Then we will have to agree to differ - I have been many times and find it more loathesome with each visit.

If stalking/shooting/fishing are your drivers, why not somewhere in Southern Africa which is at least game rich and beautiful and where your grey pound will go a million miles?

[grand cherokee]

ClaphamGT3 said:

Then we will have to agree to differ - I have been many times and find it more loathesome with each visit.

If stalking/shooting/fishing are your drivers, why not somewhere in Southern Africa which is at least game rich and beautiful and where your grey pound will go a million miles?

South Africa is the next Zimbabwe in the making - we used to have an office in Joburg and closed it - moved it the Francistown in Botswana

plus i don't want to hunt endangered species or be murdered/raped because i'm white

if your south African then NZ may be a problem for you because 99% of white 'ethnic' Afrikaans have a massive chip on their shoulders?

Edited by grand cherokee on Saturday 9th March 14:09

[ClaphamGT3]

Not South African but I do know from experience that RSA/Botswana/Mozambique/Zaire/Tanzania would all be preferable to NZ. I'd probably draw the line at Zimbabwe and Kenya, though awesome is fairly hostile to European immigration.

Each to his own however - if you do it, I hope that its everything you want it to be.

[WhereamI]

ClaphamGT3 said:

Why would you want to see out your dotage in the most boring country on earth?

Its basically a slightly up-market Wales - moderately attractive country-side, interspersed with small, ugly, dull towns full of backward, bigoted in-bred people who can't decide to use a first class stamp without state approval

I agree, I first went to NZ expecting to like it and found instead a place I can't wait to leave. It's remote, insular and boring, unfortunately I have to go there in a couple of weeks time.

[grand cherokee]

WhereamI said:

I agree, I first went to NZ expecting to like it and found instead a place I can't wait to leave. It's remote, insular and boring, unfortunately I have to go there in a couple of weeks time.

remote, insular and boring suits me perfectly - an ideal house about 50 miles from my neighbour

[Russ T Bolt]

My Sister and family moved out there in 1973, came back for about 5 years in the mid 80's before going back because they prefer being there to here.

I've not been over so can't comment, but if you have any specific questions drop me a PM and I will put you in touch.

They live in Rotorua, used to have a house on the lake, with a boat etc. But they moved into town last year as they couldn't cope with the land.

They really love it.

[WhereamI]

grand cherokee said:

remote, insular and boring suits me perfectly - an ideal house about 50 miles from my neighbour

Ah well, you should love it then. The 'entrepreneur' route sounds like its for you and no reason not to take dogs other than the stress on them of travel and quarantine.

I'm not a fan of the place, as you can tell, but another factor I don't like is the propensity for earthquakes, having been there during one its not an experience I'd like to repeat.

[JQ]

ClaphamGT3 said:

Why would you want to see out your dotage in the most boring country on earth?

Its basically a slightly up-market Wales - moderately attractive country-side, interspersed with small, ugly, dull towns full of backward, bigoted in-bred people who can't decide to use a first class stamp without state approval

A mate emigrated there about 10 years ago. He'd lived there in his youth and had family living there. He lasted 12 months before moving back to the UK due to the above.

[ClaphamGT3]

Just a thought, esp as you're single; 50 miles from the nearest house might be great now - and I hope for many years to come - but, if you get a bit doddery, would you not be better a little closer to civilisation?

[King Herald]

ClaphamGT3 said:

Why would you want to see out your dotage in the most boring country on earth?

Its basically a slightly up-market Wales - moderately attractive country-side, interspersed with small, ugly, dull towns full of backward, bigoted in-bred people who can't decide to use a first class stamp without state approval

Some people are happy to live quietly away from all the dross and dregs of society. A house with a clear view, some hills, some woods, a mile from the nearest neighbour, but with a decent sized town within drivable distance, and I'd be a happy puppy.

And what is a 'postage stump' anyway?? Emails are free.