Gonna see more TVRs on the road soon....

Gonna see more TVRs on the road soon....

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Coq au Vin

3,239 posts

211 months

Saturday 12th April 2008
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Omerta said:
Coq au Vin said:
Esprit said:
Does this new ruling circumvent the emissions rules as well as the frontal impact rules? Or will this get you by on frontal impact only to have you stumble at the emissions hurdle? (Given that Chims, Griffs, Cerbs and most Tuscans won't meet the current emissions restrictions, possibly only the post-2000 TVRs when they went to universal EURO3 standards will get through.
IIRC if you qualify for the FI special interest vehicle category, the emissions standards requirements get waived.
Yep, there's no mention of that in the amended FI Rule though. Perhaps a complementary amendment to the Vehicle Exhaust Emissions 2007 rule is coming?
Just found it - it's already in the emissions rule. See section 2.2(3) of http://www.landtransport.govt.nz/rules/vehicle-exh...

Omerta

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252 months

Sunday 13th April 2008
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And from the emissions FAQ:
Immigrants (baggage vehicles), special interest and motor sport vehicles: will not have to comply with the new standards under a proposed amendment to Land Transport Rule: Frontal Impact 2001. NB: Immigrants' vehicles are generally of a high standard, but the owners are unlikely to have documentation to clearly demonstrate their compliance. To prevent any potential abuse of this provision, the Rule proposes the same requirements as are in the proposed Land Transport Rule: Frontal Impact Amendment [2008] that vehicles must have been owned overseas for a period and cannot be sold in New Zealand for a fixed period. This amendment is scheduled to be signed before mid 2008.


kjl996

1,144 posts

200 months

Monday 14th April 2008
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This should be a popular page soon then .........

http://www.aa.co.nz/membership/Pages/default.aspx

Omerta

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2,009 posts

252 months

Monday 14th April 2008
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Oooh - a witty poke at TVR reliability. Yawn.

RobDickinson

31,343 posts

255 months

Monday 14th April 2008
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v8sag said:
RobDickinson said:
Yeah theres a Tuscan I saw a few weeks ago will be made roa dlegal with this, $100-110k.
Sorry,not with you on how they came up with that value,considering the cars in mind need ownership for 4 years before selling,secondly I presume its the 2000 whine red Tuscan with the t440 front,I had no idea the Tuscan had aquired classic car status.
Sorry no idea, its in bits at the moment with a dodgy fuel injection system (aparently), yes its the wine red one. As to if they'll manage getting it road legal they seemed to think they could. :shrug: wouldnt put my money into an AJP6 engined trevor anyhow.

Omerta

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Monday 14th April 2008
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RobDickinson said:
v8sag said:
RobDickinson said:
Yeah theres a Tuscan I saw a few weeks ago will be made roa dlegal with this, $100-110k.
Sorry,not with you on how they came up with that value,considering the cars in mind need ownership for 4 years before selling,secondly I presume its the 2000 whine red Tuscan with the t440 front,I had no idea the Tuscan had aquired classic car status.
Sorry no idea, its in bits at the moment with a dodgy fuel injection system (aparently), yes its the wine red one. As to if they'll manage getting it road legal they seemed to think they could. :shrug: wouldnt put my money into an AJP6 engined trevor anyhow.
Assuming it's in one piece, they'll be able to get it on the road now either as an immigrant's vehicle in which case they'd be allowed to sell it after a year of ownership, or as a Special Interest Vehicle in which case they'd have to wait 4 years. Immigrant's vehicle needs to have been previously owned and registered overseas by the person registering it for 12 months, and that person needs to have lived overseas for at least 21 months.

Speed6 doesn't deserve all of its reputation - and it really is a cracking engine performance and sound-wise IMO. The original problems are now well understood and were little to do with engine design, just chocolate components. There are a number of independents offering rebuild services that addresses those problems - not cheap, but once it's done you should get as many kms as any other highly tuned engine. Being in NZ and on the other side of the world from those independents however....

RobDickinson

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255 months

Monday 14th April 2008
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That's what I want from my expensive sports car, a guaranteed expensive engine rebuild which may or may not work.

Reading the threads on here almost no AJP6's managed decent miles without a rebuild, some had many. wouldnt be too concerned puting my money into a rover v8 ro AJP8 engined car, even did think abotu a Tuscan in the UK, but not with that engines horror history. Sure, sweet when it works untill it lunches itself, which is almost as often as I have lunch.

Gotta be a very brave person to put $100k into one here.

Omerta

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252 months

Monday 14th April 2008
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RobDickinson said:
Gotta be a very brave person to put $100k into one here.
There's zero chance of getting that money for it now that there is an open market again - why pay $100k when you can buy and land a UK one here for half that, albeit with a 4 year handcuff attached!

RobDickinson

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255 months

Monday 14th April 2008
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Doubt you'd get one landed here for less than about $60-65k and unless you'd owned it a year then you have 12% GST on that too, so more like $70k, and any extra MAF etc put on top too.

Isnt it limitd how many can be imported on these rules too?


Esprit

6,370 posts

284 months

Monday 14th April 2008
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All I know, after importing the Exige, it works out a lot more expensive than you budget for (even if you go in with your eyes open and a spreadsheet of costs). The GST is the bill that stings the most.... because I just LOOOOOVE giving many thousands to Helen Clark for doing fk all.

GravelBen

15,695 posts

231 months

Monday 14th April 2008
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Esprit said:
.... because I just LOOOOOVE giving many thousands to Helen Clark for doing fk all.
Don't we all! Since finishing uni last year and starting work I've been paying more in tax than what I was living on while studying. Thieving socialists curse


But back on topic, more TVRs on the road is good smile wouldn't be my own first choice of car but I can certainly appreciate them for what they are yes driving



Edited by GravelBen on Monday 14th April 23:45

Omerta

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Monday 14th April 2008
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There's no limit on immigrant's vehicles, 200 per year on SIVs.

http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/439065.htm
Tuscan with an asking price of 14,750 squids
= $37,000

plus shipping and UK export costs say $5000
plus GST $5,250
plus NZ clearance, certification, contingency say $2500
Total $49,750

Maybe there's some costs I haven't included, but I haven't negotiated with the seller who's had it advertised for two weeks already either smile

Dan M

278 posts

284 months

Tuesday 15th April 2008
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In the future you may also need to factor in the emissions charge:
http://www.transport.govt.nz/assets/NewPDFs/Improv...

I didn’t notice this consultation until after it had closed recently, but it proposes that if you import a vehicle that has CO2 emissions above a fixed limit, you will pay a penalty.

Fixed limit: 170 grams
If your car has unknown emissions, use the maximum value of 400 grams
Excess: 230 grams x $100 = $23,000

Murcielago LP640 would pay $32,500.

Esprit

6,370 posts

284 months

Tuesday 15th April 2008
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Ouch!

But I guess it just brings us into line with everyone else... and fulfils our obligations under the Kyoto swindle.

Omerta

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252 months

Tuesday 15th April 2008
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yikes Oh feck.... if that's coming in next year then I need to get the Cerbera on the road this year.

Dan M

278 posts

284 months

Tuesday 15th April 2008
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Sorry I didn't notice it earlier so responses could be put in.

It would certainly create a limited window of opportunity to get a TVR in economically as a SIV, unless they were allowed a different limit or lower penalty based on kms travelled.

Kylie

4,391 posts

258 months

Tuesday 15th April 2008
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Dan M said:
In the future you may also need to factor in the emissions charge:
http://www.transport.govt.nz/assets/NewPDFs/Improv...
Starting to read that does my head in and its only Tuesday banghead
Glad to have landed a car now than later thats for sure!!!

Omerta

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252 months

Tuesday 15th April 2008
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Dan M said:
Sorry I didn't notice it earlier so responses could be put in.
TBH I'm not sure it would have made a difference in this case Dan without public outcry on the level of the anti-smacking bill. They may not have decided the method of execution, but the intended result of this looks set in stone.

GravelBen

15,695 posts

231 months

Tuesday 15th April 2008
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Omerta said:
Dan M said:
Sorry I didn't notice it earlier so responses could be put in.
TBH I'm not sure it would have made a difference in this case Dan without public outcry on the level of the anti-smacking bill. They may not have decided the method of execution, but the intended result of this looks set in stone.
Even that didn't seem to make a difference, they just do what they like and who cares what the people want, uncle helen knows best mad

Omerta

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Tuesday 15th April 2008
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This thread feels a little like winning the battle and losing the war!