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venom500 said:
Hope to bring (its coming even if it has to sit in a garage)our modded Viper Venom 500 GTS over to NZ when we move from U.K. at the end of the year!
Nice! Is it RHD? If not it will probably need to be modified and also look for new emissions rules coming into place. Plan this well in advance and get the Statement of Complience ASAP and get it to the LTSA for prior approval before shipping the car. I would think it shouldn't be a problem as I have seen a brand new GTS in the dealership in Wellington, so I would assume it meets the relevent standards.
However, remember the speed limits here and how strongly they are being enforced at the moment. I know how difficult it can be to keep a 227bhp Chim around 60mph, but I can;t imagine trying to train a 500bhp beast!
Good luck. Where are you planning to live over here?
Cheers
Richard
Some further news on the TVR importation front - I've been chatting to a guy in Christchurch who owns a Tuscan (2002 model). He's been trying for the last month or two to find a way to register the car in NZ. With the aid of the LTSA (yes some of them would like to see TVRs in NZ too!) he thinks he may have a case due to the fact the car was produced for the Japanese market.
The documentation on the LTSA website basically states that where a car is not included on a list of crash-tested cars, if the car was produced specifically for the Japanese market, outside Japan, it will be assumed the car complies with Japanese crash standards and therefore will be accepted in NZ!
The one thing I don't know yet and I'll need to check up on, is the de-registration document that is issued when you export a car from Japan has to have the necessary type approval number included or you'll be back to square-one (i.e. proving the car has been crash tested). This is the one area of risk - you won't know if the documentation is in order until the car is de-registered and it won't be de-registered until you buy it!
What we need now is someone who can speak Japanese and who understands the Japanese used car market who can negotiate prices for used / damaged TVRs in Japan and make sure all the paperwork is in order before they are shipped!
That Cerbera is getting closer.......
The documentation on the LTSA website basically states that where a car is not included on a list of crash-tested cars, if the car was produced specifically for the Japanese market, outside Japan, it will be assumed the car complies with Japanese crash standards and therefore will be accepted in NZ!
The one thing I don't know yet and I'll need to check up on, is the de-registration document that is issued when you export a car from Japan has to have the necessary type approval number included or you'll be back to square-one (i.e. proving the car has been crash tested). This is the one area of risk - you won't know if the documentation is in order until the car is de-registered and it won't be de-registered until you buy it!
What we need now is someone who can speak Japanese and who understands the Japanese used car market who can negotiate prices for used / damaged TVRs in Japan and make sure all the paperwork is in order before they are shipped!
That Cerbera is getting closer.......
Last time I checked the vehicle would have to have the appropriate deregistration documentation which is only available on mass-produced cars. Aussie have a special procedure for registering one-off or limited run cars and this didn't cover NZ's frontal impact requirement.
Having said this it's been some months since I last checked.
I don't fancy paying the huge sums for a Cerbera that Aussie registered cars are worth - all that bloody tax!
I should have brought mine over when I had the chance.
Having said this it's been some months since I last checked.
I don't fancy paying the huge sums for a Cerbera that Aussie registered cars are worth - all that bloody tax!
I should have brought mine over when I had the chance.
Does anyone know what the story is if it's brought in as a race car? My race car is fully road legal, and I haven't (yet) discovered any fishhooks regarding this. I can drive this on the road as much as I like - and no requirement I am aware of that it has to be actually used in races
There may be problems with resale etc - but that's not really the point for me
There may be problems with resale etc - but that's not really the point for me
Hi all
anyone had any experience with LHD vehicles from Europe/UK, and the LTSA? Assuming all the conditions are met of course.
The vehicle i am referring to is a Porsche 993RS, slightly modified, which i have owned for 5 years. I have been thruough the process of importing into the UK and it was relatively easy. Homeward, and the LTSA could be another story...
Any advice would be greatly appreciated
Regards/Phil...
anyone had any experience with LHD vehicles from Europe/UK, and the LTSA? Assuming all the conditions are met of course.
The vehicle i am referring to is a Porsche 993RS, slightly modified, which i have owned for 5 years. I have been thruough the process of importing into the UK and it was relatively easy. Homeward, and the LTSA could be another story...
Any advice would be greatly appreciated
Regards/Phil...
See www.ltsa.govt.nz/factsheets/12.html for details.
It seems a bit ambiguous because it first states that you can't register a LHD vehicle in NZ unless it's converted to RHD. It then goes on to say that if you've owned it for 90 days or more and it's been registed over seas etc etc the vehicle can be regarded as an exception. You'll have to keep it registered in your name for at least 5 years though.
It seems a bit ambiguous because it first states that you can't register a LHD vehicle in NZ unless it's converted to RHD. It then goes on to say that if you've owned it for 90 days or more and it's been registed over seas etc etc the vehicle can be regarded as an exception. You'll have to keep it registered in your name for at least 5 years though.
Resurrecting this thread.... anyone heard any more about the LTSA upping the 200 cars-per-manufacturer-per-year limit?
I was looking at the definition of a Low Volume Vehicle on page 22 of this doc www.lvvta.org.nz/LVVCode210502.pdf
Definition (a) is the definiton that has been mostly discussed in this and other threads on the topic, but there is an alretnative definition (b) (a vehicle that is...) "modified uniquely, or in quantities of 200 or less in any one location in any one year, in such a way as to affect the compliance of the vehicle, or of any system or component, with a legal requirement relating to safety performance applicable at the time of the modification"
There's a slight variation of this definition on this page: www.ltsa.govt.nz/rules/head-restraints-2001.html
"(b) modified uniquely, or in quantities of 200 or less at any one location in any one year, in such a way as to affect the compliance of the vehicle, its structure, systems, components, and equipment, with a legal requirement relating to safety performance applicable at the time of the modification."
So how extensively modified does a vehicle have to be to meet this description? Could it be modified, imported, assessed as a LVV, registered and then who would care if it was 're-modified' again perhaps to something like it's original state....
Don
I was looking at the definition of a Low Volume Vehicle on page 22 of this doc www.lvvta.org.nz/LVVCode210502.pdf
Definition (a) is the definiton that has been mostly discussed in this and other threads on the topic, but there is an alretnative definition (b) (a vehicle that is...) "modified uniquely, or in quantities of 200 or less in any one location in any one year, in such a way as to affect the compliance of the vehicle, or of any system or component, with a legal requirement relating to safety performance applicable at the time of the modification"
There's a slight variation of this definition on this page: www.ltsa.govt.nz/rules/head-restraints-2001.html
"(b) modified uniquely, or in quantities of 200 or less at any one location in any one year, in such a way as to affect the compliance of the vehicle, its structure, systems, components, and equipment, with a legal requirement relating to safety performance applicable at the time of the modification."
So how extensively modified does a vehicle have to be to meet this description? Could it be modified, imported, assessed as a LVV, registered and then who would care if it was 're-modified' again perhaps to something like it's original state....
Don
There is more information on this on the LVV site I seem to remember. For a production vehicle to be recognised as a LVV rather than a modified vehicle, it requires something like 40% of the chassis to be new and 60% of the body, or something daft like that!
On this basis I wondered if you could strip a TVR (for instance) and build an exact replica chassis locally, then put it back together. They would have to accept this but then the TVR would not be a TVR, it would be a Jamie or some such nonsense!
On this basis I wondered if you could strip a TVR (for instance) and build an exact replica chassis locally, then put it back together. They would have to accept this but then the TVR would not be a TVR, it would be a Jamie or some such nonsense!
Yeah exactly.... you could import a TVR, strip it back to its chassis, take the chassis to an engineer, get them to make you an exact copy, get that certified as a scratch-built and then bolt all the TVR bits back in... a circuitous loophole but one worth doing if you REALLY wanted one... I mean hell if you wanted you could even ship it over with a spare chassis built by TVR with the explicit instructions to supply it as bare, unpainted chassis with no numbers... I doubt it'd even be THAT expensive to do.... if I had an unregisterable tuscan, that's probably what I'd do.
I know when I spoke to the LTSA about 18 months ago, they were talking about an exemption for motorsport vehicles. (i.e. if you had full cage, race seats and harnesses, you could be exempt from the frontal impact requirements).
I haven't follwed this up (yet) as I'm staying in the UK for a few more years, but plan to bring my Cerbera back when I return.
Anyone know anything more about this?
I haven't follwed this up (yet) as I'm staying in the UK for a few more years, but plan to bring my Cerbera back when I return.
Anyone know anything more about this?
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