Police Looking for Modified Exhausts in Chelmsford
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Heard on the radio a couple of days ago that Chelmsford police starting to use sound monitors to identify cars with particularly loud exhausts. Not sure what the outcome of this would be if your car was identified as being "anti-social" and less of an issue for me now that I have sold my Scoob, but I didn't know if anyone else knew anything about this and whether it is likely to roll out over the rest of Essex?
Where do they get 82db from? There is no db limit here.
Amazing, when anybody needs the police, they're too busy. likewise we are constantly being told in the media that they are struggling and underfunded and yet here they are with time and money to throw at loud cars. What a joke. Then they wonder why they have lost the respect of the public.
Amazing, when anybody needs the police, they're too busy. likewise we are constantly being told in the media that they are struggling and underfunded and yet here they are with time and money to throw at loud cars. What a joke. Then they wonder why they have lost the respect of the public.
I was in Essex a couple of weeks ago and saw the police pull over an RX7 and an Astra GSI Turbo to carry out this particular test.
The RX-7 passed and afterwards, when driver was speaking to the police about the test he locked his car and then it was the Astra's turn.
The Astra had a huge exhaust on it and when releasing off the throttle the car backfired and set the RX7's car alarm off in the process
Pretty sure though the police who were testing said they were looking for a reading of 110db+ although after a quick google search this makes things even more confusing
http://www.direct.gov.uk/en/TravelAndTransport/Usi...
The RX-7 passed and afterwards, when driver was speaking to the police about the test he locked his car and then it was the Astra's turn.
The Astra had a huge exhaust on it and when releasing off the throttle the car backfired and set the RX7's car alarm off in the process
Pretty sure though the police who were testing said they were looking for a reading of 110db+ although after a quick google search this makes things even more confusing
http://www.direct.gov.uk/en/TravelAndTransport/Usi...
Doesn't say how they measure and/or what distance from the vehicle the noise levels. For example a Porsche 997 GT3 measured for a track day will come out circa 103-105 dB with a perfectly legal factory fitted exhaust. Noise readings for track days are done initially static (in the pits or paddock area) and most times the circuits will have noise meters around the track for drive-by noise level measurements. I they are talking of circa 74dB they need to be a long distance from the vehicle otherwise most of us will be in trouble.
Well, my mate has just been pulled by Kent police on his way to work (MX-5) and fined.They said to him it doesn't matter how loud the exhaust is, he was getting a ticket not only for the noise, but also for the fact it was an aftermarket part that is not appropriately marked.They also warned him about the size of his rear plate and he got fined for the size of it and the fact it didn't have the writing on the bottom of the plate to show where it was made etc!
Digby said:
Well, my mate has just been pulled by Kent police on his way to work (MX-5) and fined.They said to him it doesn't matter how loud the exhaust is, he was getting a ticket not only for the noise, but also for the fact it was an aftermarket part that is not appropriately marked.They also warned him about the size of his rear plate and he got fined for the size of it and the fact it didn't have the writing on the bottom of the plate to show where it was made etc!
Post a pic of the offending car...SS
Digby said:
Well, my mate has just been pulled by Kent police on his way to work (MX-5) and fined.They said to him it doesn't matter how loud the exhaust is, he was getting a ticket not only for the noise, but also for the fact it was an aftermarket part that is not appropriately marked.They also warned him about the size of his rear plate and he got fined for the size of it and the fact it didn't have the writing on the bottom of the plate to show where it was made etc!
What marking would that be? There is one for bikes/mopeds but I wasn't aware that it applied to cars. If that is the case then a great many manufacturers of performance exhausts are going to have to rethink their business model.The number plate size is determined by allowable character size/spacing/border dimensions. His may be legal if it's a JDM Eunos. However it is missing the required BS AU 145 marking (either suffix a or d depending on original MY and date of plate manufacture) so no get-out-of-jail-free card I'm afraid.
The regs for the exhaust noise test are as follows: ISO 5130
A 4 wheeled vehicle used on or after 1st Oct 1983 being:
Standard motor vehicle not exceeding 82dB
Plant locomotive/works vehicle / refuse truck not exceeding 89dB
Single Vehicle Autorisation test (SVA) Imported vwehicle only not exceeding 99dB
Microphone 50cm away from tail pipe, 20cm from ground level and at 45 degrees to tail pipe.
Car checked at tickover then checked 3 times at 3/4 power with no load on engine. ie 3/4 between 0 & red line
I know beause I've just been done by Norfolk Police. £30 fine and told to get the car made quieter. No time limit given, but a verbal comment of "reasonable time" what ever that is ?
A 4 wheeled vehicle used on or after 1st Oct 1983 being:
Standard motor vehicle not exceeding 82dB
Plant locomotive/works vehicle / refuse truck not exceeding 89dB
Single Vehicle Autorisation test (SVA) Imported vwehicle only not exceeding 99dB
Microphone 50cm away from tail pipe, 20cm from ground level and at 45 degrees to tail pipe.
Car checked at tickover then checked 3 times at 3/4 power with no load on engine. ie 3/4 between 0 & red line
I know beause I've just been done by Norfolk Police. £30 fine and told to get the car made quieter. No time limit given, but a verbal comment of "reasonable time" what ever that is ?
Sadly all modern cars are built to meet the standards laid out by governments etc ( or them Euro idiots ). Construction and use and all that BS.
It is a sign of things to come. All modern cars do have noise levels from the manufacturer on a database which the police can access. It has been covered extensively on other forums
What we need are silent cars ( ie electric etc ) to cause a lot of pedestrian road deaths due to lack of noise before they realise it's all a load of nonsense.
Yes some cars are extreme, but relatively speaking they are few and far between and to be wasting police time and money with these schemes is beyond belief.
Clearly as the police have so much time and free cash on their hands to pursue this rubbish, it's about time an awful lot of them were made redundant or simply sacked. Clearly they arent needed in the first place !
http://www.direct.gov.uk/en/TravelAndTransport/Usi...
And for the horrific bit, if anyone can actually translate.
http://www.legislation.gov.uk/uksi/1986/1078/part/...
It is a sign of things to come. All modern cars do have noise levels from the manufacturer on a database which the police can access. It has been covered extensively on other forums
What we need are silent cars ( ie electric etc ) to cause a lot of pedestrian road deaths due to lack of noise before they realise it's all a load of nonsense.
Yes some cars are extreme, but relatively speaking they are few and far between and to be wasting police time and money with these schemes is beyond belief.
Clearly as the police have so much time and free cash on their hands to pursue this rubbish, it's about time an awful lot of them were made redundant or simply sacked. Clearly they arent needed in the first place !
http://www.direct.gov.uk/en/TravelAndTransport/Usi...
And for the horrific bit, if anyone can actually translate.
http://www.legislation.gov.uk/uksi/1986/1078/part/...
And slightly easier to read
It's basically a ware on motorists causing no harm to anyone !! for the simple purpose of fining them and extorting money from them.
http://assets.dft.gov.uk/publications/trl-report-p...
It's basically a ware on motorists causing no harm to anyone !! for the simple purpose of fining them and extorting money from them.
http://assets.dft.gov.uk/publications/trl-report-p...
stevieturbo said:
And slightly easier to read
It's basically a ware on motorists causing no harm to anyone !! for the simple purpose of fining them and extorting money from them.
http://assets.dft.gov.uk/publications/trl-report-p...
Reading through this they are talking about making it part of the MOT....It's basically a ware on motorists causing no harm to anyone !! for the simple purpose of fining them and extorting money from them.
http://assets.dft.gov.uk/publications/trl-report-p...
Monkey boy 1 said:
Standard motor vehicle not exceeding 82dB
So does standard motor vehicle include every car then ?How bout a nice ferrari/lambo, they are very loud, some even on startup. But most of them will be loud off factory. So does that mean they fail this road side test as well then ? Or will it only be "boy racer cars" with loud aftermarket exhausts ? And who decidedes where, or with what car, the limit is ?
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