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Just a bit of house keeping. Planning on keeping the list at 8 for the moment. Date not thought of yet, so those on the reserve list still do have a chance to join in if some can't make it 
1. Dalto123 - Mazda MX5
2. Littlepaul - Mazda MX5 or Focus
3. DrDantastic - Mazda MX5
4. Kiethton - BMW 540i
5. Ash-GT - Astra VXR
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7. Red Devil - MR2
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1. Winshent - Focus
2. HOL - EVO Hatch or MX5
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I'd be game just work/other commitment dependent - Never been in the Crown, always been a fan of the Queens Head/The Buff
Would it work upping the list to 12 or so? - still manageable size wise?Same here - The PH kent meet is up soon, but are you thinking earlier than that?
I may up the list. seeing as this is the first time I've done this I don't want to go too mad on numbers yet. There is a slight (and I emphasise 'slight'
) chance that it may increase with demand.
Now just going to look up where these pubs are - I've already mentioned how my sense of direction is
1. Dalto123 - Mazda MX5
2. Littlepaul - Mazda MX5 or Focus
3. DrDantastic - Mazda MX5
4. Kiethton - BMW 540i
5. Ash-GT - Astra VXR
6. Geekman - MR2
7. Red Devil - MR2
8. Rochester TVR - Cerbera 4.5
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1. Winshent - Focus
2. HOL - EVO Hatch or MX5
3.
kiethton said:
winshent said:
Dalto123 said:
Evening all,
I suggested a gathering for Kent PH'ers as quite a few of us seem to be from the Bromley area.
Anyone up for a meet at the crown or somewhere similar (Maybe one of the pubs along the A21 past locksbottom) one night after work? I suggested a gathering for Kent PH'ers as quite a few of us seem to be from the Bromley area.
Would it work upping the list to 12 or so? - still manageable size wise?
I may up the list. seeing as this is the first time I've done this I don't want to go too mad on numbers yet. There is a slight (and I emphasise 'slight'
) chance that it may increase with demand.Now just going to look up where these pubs are - I've already mentioned how my sense of direction is
Dalto123 said:
Just a bit of house keeping. Planning on keeping the list at 8 for the moment. Date not thought of yet, so those on the reserve list still do have a chance to join in if some can't make it
1. Dalto123 - Mazda MX5
2. Littlepaul - Mazda MX5 or Focus
3. DrDantastic - Mazda MX5
4. Kiethton - BMW 540i
5. Ash-GT - Astra VXR
6. Geekman - MR2
7. Red Devil - MR2
8. Rochester TVR - Cerbera 4.5
Reserve List
1. Winshent - Focus
2. HOL - EVO Hatch or MX5
3.
I'd be game just work/other commitment dependent - Never been in the Crown, always been a fan of the Queens Head/The Buff
Would it work upping the list to 12 or so? - still manageable size wise?Same here - The PH kent meet is up soon, but are you thinking earlier than that?
I may up the list. seeing as this is the first time I've done this I don't want to go too mad on numbers yet. There is a slight (and I emphasise 'slight') chance that it may increase with demand.
Now just going to look up where these pubs are - I've already mentioned how my sense of direction is
I'm thinking of a meet for the Bromley locals since someone mentioned some live round the area.. Nothing the size of Umairs meet at The Grasshopper, which isnt until 1st April..1. Dalto123 - Mazda MX5
2. Littlepaul - Mazda MX5 or Focus
3. DrDantastic - Mazda MX5
4. Kiethton - BMW 540i
5. Ash-GT - Astra VXR
6. Geekman - MR2
7. Red Devil - MR2
8. Rochester TVR - Cerbera 4.5
Reserve List
1. Winshent - Focus
2. HOL - EVO Hatch or MX5
3.
kiethton said:
winshent said:
Dalto123 said:
Evening all,
I suggested a gathering for Kent PH'ers as quite a few of us seem to be from the Bromley area.
Anyone up for a meet at the crown or somewhere similar (Maybe one of the pubs along the A21 past locksbottom) one night after work? I suggested a gathering for Kent PH'ers as quite a few of us seem to be from the Bromley area.
Would it work upping the list to 12 or so? - still manageable size wise?
I may up the list. seeing as this is the first time I've done this I don't want to go too mad on numbers yet. There is a slight (and I emphasise 'slight'
) chance that it may increase with demand.Now just going to look up where these pubs are - I've already mentioned how my sense of direction is
How about Wed 12th March at The Rose and Crown..
Just sayin, would be good to meet a few locals..
PS.. shame the drive is limited to 8, given potentially a couple wont turn up..
winshent said:
I'm thinking of a meet for the Bromley locals since someone mentioned some live round the area.. Nothing the size of Umairs meet at The Grasshopper, which isnt until 1st April..
How about Wed 12th March at The Rose and Crown..
Just sayin, would be good to meet a few locals..
PS.. shame the drive is limited to 8, given potentially a couple wont turn up..
I like the look of that pub. Went there a few years ago and was nice enough - Happy to go there on the 12th - 6pm ish?How about Wed 12th March at The Rose and Crown..
Just sayin, would be good to meet a few locals..
PS.. shame the drive is limited to 8, given potentially a couple wont turn up..
Ref the numbers. I understand what you mean. But seeing as this is the first drive I'll be doing I don't want to feel out of my depth in numbers - I've got to make sure I can keep 8 of us together on the drive.
Of course if demand and the reserve list grows I may stick a few those at the top onto the main list - but seeing as we are in the planning stages, nothing is set in concrete yet - Plus if a couple do pull out then you've definitley got a space
Anyway - would be great to meet everyone for the Kent drive and those who are just from the area
by way of a tip...there's a fair few routes and Cafe recommends here
http://southernkitcars.com/routesand-cafes/
all anyone has to do is download the route as an ITN file for tomtom...and then tweak to preferred start finish.
a few of the routes are 'round robins' but often just a 1 way to a specific end Cafe as we normally split to go our own ways after brekkie as we're based all over the south eastern counties......
anyway - have fun....
http://southernkitcars.com/routesand-cafes/
all anyone has to do is download the route as an ITN file for tomtom...and then tweak to preferred start finish.
a few of the routes are 'round robins' but often just a 1 way to a specific end Cafe as we normally split to go our own ways after brekkie as we're based all over the south eastern counties......
anyway - have fun....
sorry no, i havent had the time to upload a gmaps version, but you can download as an ITN and if you have TYRE installed you can then view the route in TYRE or convert using the TYRE interface into a gmap......
those routes are ones that we've used in skcc a fair few times, we generally favour smaller more interesting roads as opposed to the bigger A rd ( license losers)......and as they say ' fun isn't a straight line'....
btw- for ease of arranging a drive out - worth trying to get drivers to use sat nav routes whether itn for ttom or garmin equivalent. far easier than trying to keep 8 cars in formation, and takes the pressure of anyone feeling they have to keep up and therefore end up out of their comfort zone. i reckon that nowadays about 80-90% of our runners use this now.
those routes are ones that we've used in skcc a fair few times, we generally favour smaller more interesting roads as opposed to the bigger A rd ( license losers)......and as they say ' fun isn't a straight line'....
btw- for ease of arranging a drive out - worth trying to get drivers to use sat nav routes whether itn for ttom or garmin equivalent. far easier than trying to keep 8 cars in formation, and takes the pressure of anyone feeling they have to keep up and therefore end up out of their comfort zone. i reckon that nowadays about 80-90% of our runners use this now.
greengreenwood7 said:
sorry no, i havent had the time to upload a gmaps version, but you can download as an ITN and if you have TYRE installed you can then view the route in TYRE or convert using the TYRE interface into a gmap......
those routes are ones that we've used in skcc a fair few times, we generally favour smaller more interesting roads as opposed to the bigger A rd ( license losers)......and as they say ' fun isn't a straight line'....
btw- for ease of arranging a drive out - worth trying to get drivers to use sat nav routes whether itn for ttom or garmin equivalent. far easier than trying to keep 8 cars in formation, and takes the pressure of anyone feeling they have to keep up and therefore end up out of their comfort zone. i reckon that nowadays about 80-90% of our runners use this now.
Good shout on the last point! I'd like that preferably - takes some pressure off me in case they become separated from the group!those routes are ones that we've used in skcc a fair few times, we generally favour smaller more interesting roads as opposed to the bigger A rd ( license losers)......and as they say ' fun isn't a straight line'....
btw- for ease of arranging a drive out - worth trying to get drivers to use sat nav routes whether itn for ttom or garmin equivalent. far easier than trying to keep 8 cars in formation, and takes the pressure of anyone feeling they have to keep up and therefore end up out of their comfort zone. i reckon that nowadays about 80-90% of our runners use this now.
I must apologise, I'm being very thick! I've right clicked on a route from the link you gave me, but I can only save it as a text document. How do I get to open it in Tyre?
ncs said:
So you don't want me to bring the L200 then?
Don't worry, the Griff will be there, possibly with another TVR or two & I hope a Ferrari 512BB...watch this space.
Nick
Well. Now you've offered the L200 I couldn't turn that offer down now could I? Don't worry, the Griff will be there, possibly with another TVR or two & I hope a Ferrari 512BB...watch this space.
Nick
Good to hear! Would love to have a nose around the 512BB especially! Not many of those out there!
Dalto...ah, had that issue with a few of our own members - it seems to be a browser related issue.....one that i never got to the bottom of as they all work fine on all my pc's....i use Internet explorer - an older version and firefox....should give the option os saving/opening, best to save and then just open using TYRE - but for sure won't work unless you have TYRE installed on yr pc/lappie......
in terms of sat nav....
i gave up going on runs that were follow the leader after a daft day a few years back.it was another car clubs run and there was about 10 of us, over a 3 mile period the 1st 6 cars got past a lone stranger leaving 4 of us plodding along, when my time finally came i got past only to find the 7 or so in front of me ambling along the most fantastic bit of road waiting for us the group to reassemble - plain daft and a waste of a terrific bit of tarmac....our weekend runs are anywhere from 5-15 in numbers and all that happens is that the slower guys are under zero pressure and no one has to worry about an overtake that they'd normally feel uncomfortable with.....given that a 2nd hand ttom that can do ITN's can be had for a few quid off the bay it's a no brainer.....
in terms of sat nav....
i gave up going on runs that were follow the leader after a daft day a few years back.it was another car clubs run and there was about 10 of us, over a 3 mile period the 1st 6 cars got past a lone stranger leaving 4 of us plodding along, when my time finally came i got past only to find the 7 or so in front of me ambling along the most fantastic bit of road waiting for us the group to reassemble - plain daft and a waste of a terrific bit of tarmac....our weekend runs are anywhere from 5-15 in numbers and all that happens is that the slower guys are under zero pressure and no one has to worry about an overtake that they'd normally feel uncomfortable with.....given that a 2nd hand ttom that can do ITN's can be had for a few quid off the bay it's a no brainer.....
greengreenwood7 said:
Dalto...ah, had that issue with a few of our own members - it seems to be a browser related issue.....one that i never got to the bottom of as they all work fine on all my pc's....i use Internet explorer - an older version and firefox....should give the option os saving/opening, best to save and then just open using TYRE - but for sure won't work unless you have TYRE installed on yr pc/lappie......
in terms of sat nav....
i gave up going on runs that were follow the leader after a daft day a few years back.it was another car clubs run and there was about 10 of us, over a 3 mile period the 1st 6 cars got past a lone stranger leaving 4 of us plodding along, when my time finally came i got past only to find the 7 or so in front of me ambling along the most fantastic bit of road waiting for us the group to reassemble - plain daft and a waste of a terrific bit of tarmac....our weekend runs are anywhere from 5-15 in numbers and all that happens is that the slower guys are under zero pressure and no one has to worry about an overtake that they'd normally feel uncomfortable with.....given that a 2nd hand ttom that can do ITN's can be had for a few quid off the bay it's a no brainer.....
Interesting. I'll try using Internet Explorer when I get home and do the same (currently use Firefox). I'm sure it'll work out in terms of sat nav....
i gave up going on runs that were follow the leader after a daft day a few years back.it was another car clubs run and there was about 10 of us, over a 3 mile period the 1st 6 cars got past a lone stranger leaving 4 of us plodding along, when my time finally came i got past only to find the 7 or so in front of me ambling along the most fantastic bit of road waiting for us the group to reassemble - plain daft and a waste of a terrific bit of tarmac....our weekend runs are anywhere from 5-15 in numbers and all that happens is that the slower guys are under zero pressure and no one has to worry about an overtake that they'd normally feel uncomfortable with.....given that a 2nd hand ttom that can do ITN's can be had for a few quid off the bay it's a no brainer.....
I too have been on a few drives where it's very much been 'follow the leader' - Of course I got completely lost! If/ when this does happen it would be nice to have a head count of those with sat nav's and possibly have them placed at points in the group between those who don't (although I admit this is easier said than done!).
I think 8 will be the perfect number to start with - I know some people may be upset that they haven't made it onto the list in time. My point is that there probably will be drop outs, and if the group got too large and you became seperated, that's not exactley going to end well either is it?
Dalto123 said:
Interesting. I'll try using Internet Explorer when I get home and do the same (currently use Firefox). I'm sure it'll work out
I too have been on a few drives where it's very much been 'follow the leader' - Of course I got completely lost! If/ when this does happen it would be nice to have a head count of those with sat nav's and possibly have them placed at points in the group between those who don't (although I admit this is easier said than done!).
I think 8 will be the perfect number to start with - I know some people may be upset that they haven't made it onto the list in time. My point is that there probably will be drop outs, and if the group got too large and you became seperated, that's not exactley going to end well either is it?
You should never lose anyone on a run... Everyone should adhere to the basics.. Those being:I too have been on a few drives where it's very much been 'follow the leader' - Of course I got completely lost! If/ when this does happen it would be nice to have a head count of those with sat nav's and possibly have them placed at points in the group between those who don't (although I admit this is easier said than done!).
I think 8 will be the perfect number to start with - I know some people may be upset that they haven't made it onto the list in time. My point is that there probably will be drop outs, and if the group got too large and you became seperated, that's not exactley going to end well either is it?
You should always wait at a junction or turn on the route for the car behind, so they can see where you have gone. Its how I have always organised my runs..
That way everyone should follow the same route..
I'm in full agreement with Winshent there is no reason for a sensible sized group to get split up if everyone takes care.
Most people who know me know I prefer to run without a sat nav.
On quite a few runs we have used 2 way radios, they have been helpful to warn of any problems, changes to route, if someone needs to stop for some reason, or even say goodbye if breaking off early. For these reasons I prefer to run with radios.
Most people who know me know I prefer to run without a sat nav.
On quite a few runs we have used 2 way radios, they have been helpful to warn of any problems, changes to route, if someone needs to stop for some reason, or even say goodbye if breaking off early. For these reasons I prefer to run with radios.
Dalto123 said:
By some miricle I've managed to download a route and get it opened on Google Maps, as well as modify it to start/ end at the 7 Hotel Diner (looks quite good for food there and quite reasonable prices):
it has gone quite over my time idea of 2/2.5 hours by a bit! Feel free to edit it and send us a link back
Route Idea
Indeed, if we could cut it down a little it'd be great (I don't know the areas too well though) - thats £50 of petrol right there and I'm rather tight and due to be completing my firt flat purchase at the end of March hahaha...i love 16mpg sometimes!it has gone quite over my time idea of 2/2.5 hours by a bit! Feel free to edit it and send us a link back
Route Idea
as an impartial critique i'd lose the a25 as that's plain boring.....i'd head towards Edenbridge and then one of a few ways back towards westerham/Sundridge. everyone has different ideas about these things - so hope you don't mind my 2 penneth....
if you want to shorten a route - simplest way is to start at a different point - in this case the Harvester at 7oaks/riverhead...sometimes we see who has their names down and then we tweak the run as often many of us knock off 30-40 miles before we meet up......
also, timing the runs will of course depend on whether you stop part way round for much longer than a ciggie/leg stretch - but early on a sunday i'd be reckoning on an average of 40mph ( unless there were large strecthes of bigger roads )....
if we're doing a 75 miler and leaving at say 07.00 we'd expect to be at brekkie around 9.00. i mention this because if you're planning a brekkie then you'll need to factor in what time wherever you expect to plot up is/will be open.....
finally - again, depends on who you are appealing to in terms of geographic....but often i'd leave the end point ( brekkie )in 'no mans land' so that everyone makes their own way home from there - unless everyone is from exactly the same neck of teh woods it's a reasonable compromise for those taking part. but we have guys maybe sarting at say edenbridge that may have come up from the coast, across from ashford - so we'd pick somewhere thats fair on as many as poss so that someone who has had a longer drive to the start doesn't get hit with a double whammy of an equally long return.....
oh and if you're new to setting rough rules...start time = start time, not a ''hi guys, give me 10 mins whilst i go find a garage to juice up'', similarly ( especially with your cars - we only have small tanks ) urge everyone to have enough fuel onboard to make the whole trip.
oh final footnote by way of additional advice....
i'd refrain from putting a start/end point in an open forum.....communicate that via mail to the runners. that way you don't get uninvited folks turning up.
if you want to shorten a route - simplest way is to start at a different point - in this case the Harvester at 7oaks/riverhead...sometimes we see who has their names down and then we tweak the run as often many of us knock off 30-40 miles before we meet up......
also, timing the runs will of course depend on whether you stop part way round for much longer than a ciggie/leg stretch - but early on a sunday i'd be reckoning on an average of 40mph ( unless there were large strecthes of bigger roads )....
if we're doing a 75 miler and leaving at say 07.00 we'd expect to be at brekkie around 9.00. i mention this because if you're planning a brekkie then you'll need to factor in what time wherever you expect to plot up is/will be open.....
finally - again, depends on who you are appealing to in terms of geographic....but often i'd leave the end point ( brekkie )in 'no mans land' so that everyone makes their own way home from there - unless everyone is from exactly the same neck of teh woods it's a reasonable compromise for those taking part. but we have guys maybe sarting at say edenbridge that may have come up from the coast, across from ashford - so we'd pick somewhere thats fair on as many as poss so that someone who has had a longer drive to the start doesn't get hit with a double whammy of an equally long return.....
oh and if you're new to setting rough rules...start time = start time, not a ''hi guys, give me 10 mins whilst i go find a garage to juice up'', similarly ( especially with your cars - we only have small tanks ) urge everyone to have enough fuel onboard to make the whole trip.
oh final footnote by way of additional advice....
i'd refrain from putting a start/end point in an open forum.....communicate that via mail to the runners. that way you don't get uninvited folks turning up.
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