Discussion
Gixer said:
Anyone else getting fed up with this and the congestion it causes around the surrounding area? Surely its time for a better solution. It's been happening for years but appears to be in place much more often and for longer these days
Have a word with the French. It's their fault 
I would say the constant security breaching at Eurostar was Eurostars fault.
I would also say the fact the migrants pass through so many countries and only want to get to
England is also our fault. Maybe we need to end our world wide reputation as a free hand out country...
and are the strikes not partly due to us forcing the sale of Speed Ferries?
Anyway, that's for another thread.
I would also say the fact the migrants pass through so many countries and only want to get to
England is also our fault. Maybe we need to end our world wide reputation as a free hand out country...
and are the strikes not partly due to us forcing the sale of Speed Ferries?
Anyway, that's for another thread.
Edited by Gixer on Thursday 9th July 09:56
Yes 
Why do they take a four lane road and only park trucks on two lanes ? They should be able to get more trucks parked if they used three lanes with gaps to allow trucks to reach the driving lane.
Re the ferries, is it not thanks to the EU competition laws that Eurotunnel have been forced to sell Myferrylink to DFDS ferries with the resultant loss of jobs ?
My major gripe is the way the traffic is handled at Junction 8 They take the motorway down to two lanes some distance from the exit sometimes causing the back log to go out to Junction 6. It should be clearly marked that operation stack queue is the inside two lanes and the outside lane is non stack traffic. On approach to J8 the inside two lanes should be merged into one (the hard shoulder) and the outside lane prioritised onto the roundabout so local traffic does not get delayed an hour for no good reason. Lorries foolish enough to try and queue jump by illegal use of the outside lane should be fined and forced to return to the back of the queue.
The French seem to allow strikes too easily and why when strikers take illegal action to break into Eurotunnel and start fires on the tracks why do they not send in the riot Police to evict them?
Why do they take a four lane road and only park trucks on two lanes ? They should be able to get more trucks parked if they used three lanes with gaps to allow trucks to reach the driving lane.
Re the ferries, is it not thanks to the EU competition laws that Eurotunnel have been forced to sell Myferrylink to DFDS ferries with the resultant loss of jobs ?
My major gripe is the way the traffic is handled at Junction 8 They take the motorway down to two lanes some distance from the exit sometimes causing the back log to go out to Junction 6. It should be clearly marked that operation stack queue is the inside two lanes and the outside lane is non stack traffic. On approach to J8 the inside two lanes should be merged into one (the hard shoulder) and the outside lane prioritised onto the roundabout so local traffic does not get delayed an hour for no good reason. Lorries foolish enough to try and queue jump by illegal use of the outside lane should be fined and forced to return to the back of the queue.
The French seem to allow strikes too easily and why when strikers take illegal action to break into Eurotunnel and start fires on the tracks why do they not send in the riot Police to evict them?
Good point ref the parking of the trucks. I remember watching the news the other night and thinking the same. Sure they need to run up and down between the trucks but surely 3 rows would be doable.
It's crazy, they've trebled the size of Ashford, pretty much ruined the A20. Especially around Ashford where there is clearly a need for traffic lights every ten feet and then expect it to cope with the volume of traffic from the M20.
If they could just free up 8-9, that would help massively
It's crazy, they've trebled the size of Ashford, pretty much ruined the A20. Especially around Ashford where there is clearly a need for traffic lights every ten feet and then expect it to cope with the volume of traffic from the M20.
If they could just free up 8-9, that would help massively
It's going to be a long summer if this goes on like the last few weeks, I can't understand why they have been shutting all the way from J8 to J11 as you drive past large stretches between J8 and J9 with nothing parked there at all. They should either be having 3 lanes of trucks parked to use the space better and keep one lane free or better still park them on the inside lane and hard shoulder with cones separating them in lane two so cars can continue in lane three at 40mph and lane two is still available for breakdowns.
Roo said:
They can't park the trucks side by side for safety reasons and also because it makes it more difficult to shuffle them about when necessary.
Whilst this may be the reason they give and it has some substance it is also B******s. They do it because it is easy for them! They could leave gaps and park on three out of four lanes, sure it would be more difficult but what about the chaos and issues for everyone else when they extend beyond just 8-9 Parking next to each other is a safety issue !!!!!! They park next to each other on ferries, in car parks etc. Why is it more dangerous when parked on a closed motorway? How could it possibly out weigh the danger of vehicles lost trying to get round a blocked motorway on country lanes. Whilst "stack" is a problem we must suffer rather than leave lorries jamming every road round the ports the handling of this issue is dreadful and no consideration for non ferry/tunnel users has even been considered.
P700DEE said:
Whilst this may be the reason they give and it has some substance it is also B******s. They do it because it is easy for them! They could leave gaps and park on three out of four lanes, sure it would be more difficult but what about the chaos and issues for everyone else when they extend beyond just 8-9
Parking next to each other is a safety issue !!!!!! They park next to each other on ferries, in car parks etc. Why is it more dangerous when parked on a closed motorway? How could it possibly out weigh the danger of vehicles lost trying to get round a blocked motorway on country lanes. Whilst "stack" is a problem we must suffer rather than leave lorries jamming every road round the ports the handling of this issue is dreadful and no consideration for non ferry/tunnel users has even been considered.
I'm afraid it's not bParking next to each other is a safety issue !!!!!! They park next to each other on ferries, in car parks etc. Why is it more dangerous when parked on a closed motorway? How could it possibly out weigh the danger of vehicles lost trying to get round a blocked motorway on country lanes. Whilst "stack" is a problem we must suffer rather than leave lorries jamming every road round the ports the handling of this issue is dreadful and no consideration for non ferry/tunnel users has even been considered.
ks. It's been tried. It was utter chaos. It makes it impossible to move broken downs. To access emergencies. To wake up drivers. To move up and down. Lots of consideration has been given. Every effort to not put it on is made.
Every feasible avenue explored every year.
Simply the people of Kent object to lorry parks. Freight traffic has increased 200 percent from when the networks were built. The ports capacity has been reduced. The tunnel is at maximum.
Some days 6000 lorries move into Kent to leave.
At this time. It's the least worst option.
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