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jammy_basturd
Original Poster
8,335 posts
82 months
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Just started commuting along tat stretch of road, and most evenings the limits are set to 60mph. I thought the cameras worked the same as the M25 system, whereby if the speed limits are reduced (the overhead signs are on) then the cameras are operational. Given the amount of people that ignore the signs when they are on, I'm wondering whether the speed cameras actually work, or whether hundreds of people a day are getting fines through?
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Westy Pre-Lit
4,415 posts
73 months
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I don't take any notice of them anymore, as far as I'm aware they are advisory limits. Have been through them when the limits go from 60 to 40 then 60 then 40 again etc Bloody ridiculous if you ask me. Not had a ticket yet. 
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dcb
4,465 posts
135 months
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Westy Pre-Lit said: Not had a ticket yet. I've never been through them when they have been lit. But normally, when they are unlit, +20 mph over the limit seems to be no problem, ticketwise. I suspect that they are like the M25 cameras when they are lit: +10 mph over seems to be no problem. Of course, the logic of putting speed cameras on the safest type of road by far is another debate ...
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Mr_annie_vxr
9,235 posts
81 months
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The limit is only a limit if it has the red ring around it, you will notice that at the moment they are just the numbers with nothing else. As far as i know they are not yet active.
Word of warning though should you ignore an advisory limit and crash at a speed in excess of the limit shown it could be used as evidence of careless/ dangerous driving.
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jammy_basturd
Original Poster
8,335 posts
82 months
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Ah, cheers for clearing that up.
I'm not really interesting in going any quicker than 60 anyway, the amount of traffic at that time means you can rarely go much quicker, and most evenings it's nice to have a relaxing drive home rather than going hell for leather!
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Havoc856
906 posts
49 months
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My snooper always alarms, and most motorists tend to slow down to the NSL. Only get a few BMW and Audi drivers thinking they are exempt from Road Traffic Law who go flying through. The last time i saw them do it though there was an unmarked Focus ST in black with blues and twos in its grille giving it big licks after them 
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jammy_basturd
Original Poster
8,335 posts
82 months
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I've seen that Focus ST pulling someone over on the clockwise section of the M25 at Clacketts, wondered whether it was Kent's or Surrey's.
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Ash-GT
205 posts
95 months
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jammy_basturd said: I've seen that Focus ST pulling someone over on the clockwise section of the M25 at Clacketts, wondered whether it was Kent's or Surrey's. as far as i know surrey has a few ST's norm 5 door ones.
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Havoc856
906 posts
49 months
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An Educated guess says that if Essex and Surrey have them.... so do kent lol
I had an ST with plod in stop outside my house... turns out they were doing routine checks... a VXR had been stolen and they were just ANPR'ing the plates. They were obviously confused when mine came up HM Gov/MOD lol, luckily i was at hand to help!
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scruffty
55 posts
62 months
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I see the signs are up now and "flash testing" is in operation.
Happy days...
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Hol
417 posts
70 months
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What do you mean by flash testing??
Are they not fully operational? Nothing on any website about a 'live' date.
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Mr_annie_vxr
9,235 posts
81 months
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Means they are reacting to the vehicles. Some nights its like a lightening storm down there.
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matt2908
2 posts
45 months
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I phoned the highways agency yesterday to find out when these things are active, they dont know anything about them, does anyone know if they are in operation yet?
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scruffty
55 posts
62 months
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they'll be operational when they feel like it! (and when the red circles appear round the speed limits)
and I suppose flash testing is just testing the camera and speeds but not record the data for prosecution. Strange how the consultation hasn't been published yet but they are carrying on...
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PJ3074
281 posts
46 months
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You can't fart for camera's these days - George Orwell's 1984 ring any bells here. I would assume the red circles will be up to show they are operational in certain traffic conditions....like the M25 and the M42 around Birmingham, NEC area.
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mark165
42 posts
103 months
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I'm getting tired of these things. Whoever sets the speed limits must just flip a coin. They seem to be consistent in getting them wrong every time. 60 to 40 to 60 without reason. Or a blanket 50 limit when the traffic is light to non existent. Crap.
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GingerRob
441 posts
45 months
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I noticed that there is camera signs along there now
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PJ3074
281 posts
46 months
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Tell me about it..I was coming back from Bristol yesterday and join the M25..its on a consistent 50mph which is fine to keep traffic rolling, then down to 40mph at M3 and then upto x2 lots of 60mph then down to 40mph, then back up and then back down - WTF is going on????
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Roo
6,016 posts
77 months
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scruffty said: they'll be operational when they feel like it! And when they actually get permission for them.
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TimFulwell
3 posts
45 months
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I believe these have recently gone live. I saw flashes last night from what appeared to be gatsos mounted behind the sign gantrys between jct 5 and 7. I do not know if they are fixed at 70 or not. What a drag
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