LA LandRover

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InsideDealings

Original Poster:

622 posts

212 months

Monday 15th September 2014
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I am looking to buy a Range Rover in LA as I will be there for 3 months from October but I am being messed about by the dealers there as they think I want to export the car.

Any locals and advise?

Ideally via Horburg or a dealer close to Beverly Hills.

Matt Harper

6,616 posts

201 months

Monday 15th September 2014
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Do you have a US address that can be used to register and title the car - that you can demonstrate that you reside at? (Utility bills and the like - in your name?)
It's quite difficult to buy, title, register and insure a vehicle in the US unless you actually have resident status here.

DennisCooper

1,340 posts

171 months

Monday 15th September 2014
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Hi,

For just 3 months, you might as well just purchase a used example and get temporary insurance from somewhere like this place

http://www.usinsuranceonline.com/auto-insurance/po...

no dealer hassles, no multi thousand dollar depreciation buying a new example then selling it in a relatively 'few' days time..

Buy a car, insure it, drive it for a few days whilst out there, sell it, then move on/back to wherever you go to next!

Cheers, Dennis!

Matt Harper

6,616 posts

201 months

Tuesday 16th September 2014
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DennisCooper said:
Hi,

For just 3 months, you might as well just purchase a used example and get temporary insurance from somewhere like this place

http://www.usinsuranceonline.com/auto-insurance/po...

no dealer hassles, no multi thousand dollar depreciation buying a new example then selling it in a relatively 'few' days time..

Buy a car, insure it, drive it for a few days whilst out there, sell it, then move on/back to wherever you go to next!

Cheers, Dennis!
One component missing from this Dennis. How does he title and register the (used) car without a US address to attach it to (if indeed, he does't currently have one)?

InsideDealings

Original Poster:

622 posts

212 months

Tuesday 16th September 2014
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I have a 3 month lease on a property and from what I have been told I can title a car to this address as I have an official lease. I will be paying cash and using my international licence. I will most probably leave the car there and will use it when I return in June/July for another 3 to 4 months.

Matt Harper

6,616 posts

201 months

Tuesday 16th September 2014
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So you should be good to go then - waving your lease under the dealers nose should do the trick. Is your non-US drivers license in written in English?

InsideDealings

Original Poster:

622 posts

212 months

Monday 22nd September 2014
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Matt Harper said:
So you should be good to go then - waving your lease under the dealers nose should do the trick. Is your non-US drivers license in written in English?
Good point!! It comes in 2 parts. Monaco and International but it's actually in french but it's pretty easy to understand. I have copies of my old UK Licence which I had to hand back.

unrepentant

21,256 posts

256 months

Monday 22nd September 2014
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I'd be very surprised if any US LR dealer will sell you a new Range Rover.

We have a massive problem at the moment with cars being purchased by "shills" acting on behalf of exporters. When that happens it costs the dealership big time. You raise so many red flags that I would not risk selling you a vehicle if you came to me.

In addition to the above the cars are still in very short supply so even finding one that is unsold will not be easy. That compounds your problem because where cars are in such short supply why take the chance of selling one to someone who appears to be a risk.

InsideDealings

Original Poster:

622 posts

212 months

Tuesday 23rd September 2014
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unrepentant said:
I'd be very surprised if any US LR dealer will sell you a new Range Rover.

We have a massive problem at the moment with cars being purchased by "shills" acting on behalf of exporters. When that happens it costs the dealership big time. You raise so many red flags that I would not risk selling you a vehicle if you came to me.

In addition to the above the cars are still in very short supply so even finding one that is unsold will not be easy. That compounds your problem because where cars are in such short supply why take the chance of selling one to someone who appears to be a risk.
I'm very risky!!

unrepentant

21,256 posts

256 months

Tuesday 23rd September 2014
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InsideDealings said:
unrepentant said:
I'd be very surprised if any US LR dealer will sell you a new Range Rover.

We have a massive problem at the moment with cars being purchased by "shills" acting on behalf of exporters. When that happens it costs the dealership big time. You raise so many red flags that I would not risk selling you a vehicle if you came to me.

In addition to the above the cars are still in very short supply so even finding one that is unsold will not be easy. That compounds your problem because where cars are in such short supply why take the chance of selling one to someone who appears to be a risk.
I'm very risky!!
You're a non resident who is in the country for a few months and plans to pay cash. Yes, actually you are very risky! Like I said, you raise a lot of red flags and it would take a brave dealer to sell you a car in the current climate.

Matt Harper

6,616 posts

201 months

Wednesday 24th September 2014
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unrepentant said:
You're a non resident who is in the country for a few months and plans to pay cash. Yes, actually you are very risky! Like I said, you raise a lot of red flags and it would take a brave dealer to sell you a car in the current climate.
So, if a man walks into a Land Rover dealership and say's "I'd like to buy a Range Rover please - I'll be paying cash and this is my address for you to register and title it", what's the response going to be?
Are they going to want to see proof of his residential status other than his address? I suppose they'd need his drivers license to register it - but what if he say's, "I don't have one yet - just arrived - but I have an International Permit and a UK license".
Is the dealer going to turn him away? Ask to see his visa?

I don't know the answer to this - but am curious. The first new vehicle I got into when I moved here was a leased Suburban - and no questions were asked (though I had a US license) and my proof of address was a phone bill. I went 'just to have a look' and drove out in it 3 hours later.

unrepentant

21,256 posts

256 months

Wednesday 24th September 2014
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Matt Harper said:
So, if a man walks into a Land Rover dealership and say's "I'd like to buy a Range Rover please - I'll be paying cash and this is my address for you to register and title it", what's the response going to be?
Are they going to want to see proof of his residential status other than his address? I suppose they'd need his drivers license to register it - but what if he say's, "I don't have one yet - just arrived - but I have an International Permit and a UK license".
Is the dealer going to turn him away? Ask to see his visa?

I don't know the answer to this - but am curious. The first new vehicle I got into when I moved here was a leased Suburban - and no questions were asked (though I had a US license) and my proof of address was a phone bill. I went 'just to have a look' and drove out in it 3 hours later.
We (not just LR, others as well) have a very specific problem at the moment, one that is well documented and the subject of a number of legal cases. When you bought your Suburban there wasn't a queue of people lining up to buy them to ship them to China. We have a duty to ensure that we sell cars to end users and not to people who may not be who they purport to be.

If someone we don't know walks into our dealership and wants to buy a car for cash (or otherwise) we will do due diligence and it will be thorough. All customers purchasing new cars are required to sign an agreement not to export or broker the car and to keep it for a minimum of 12 months. That agreement gives us the right to take a lien on the title at our discretion. It's never a problem unless the person plans to broker the car...

Matt Harper

6,616 posts

201 months

Wednesday 24th September 2014
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unrepentant said:
We (not just LR, others as well) have a very specific problem at the moment, one that is well documented and the subject of a number of legal cases. When you bought your Suburban there wasn't a queue of people lining up to buy them to ship them to China. We have a duty to ensure that we sell cars to end users and not to people who may not be who they purport to be.

If someone we don't know walks into our dealership and wants to buy a car for cash (or otherwise) we will do due diligence and it will be thorough. All customers purchasing new cars are required to sign an agreement not to export or broker the car and to keep it for a minimum of 12 months. That agreement gives us the right to take a lien on the title at our discretion. It's never a problem unless the person plans to broker the car...
Awesome - thanks Paul.