Tips for a Brit buying a (dull) second hand car in US

Tips for a Brit buying a (dull) second hand car in US

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sato

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581 posts

211 months

Tuesday 28th October 2014
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My sister has got a job in the Conneticut, and will need to buy a car there.
Probably along the lines of a Jetta or something equally uninspiring I guess.

She will have a green card and a US residential address, and plans to be there 2 years. Will she have any problems buying and registering a car on her UK driving licence?
The only two things I know about buying cars in the US is that Craigslist is big listing site, and I believe a Carfax check tells if a car has been crashed or stolen.

What I dont know is the following:
Do cars have annual inspection like our MOT?
Would you expect to see a car serviced every year?
Are there any big name car supermarket type places that she can be reasonably sure she wont get ripped off at?



Matt Harper

6,617 posts

201 months

Tuesday 28th October 2014
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She will have to take a driving test if she is resident in the state for more than 1 year.

CT has an emissions test requirement for vehicles that are more than 2 years old (and less than 20 years old).
Regular passenger cars have no other formal roadworthiness inspection requirement.

Look at Carmax.com - they have plenty of dull cars. She'll probably need to pay cash, as her credit rating will be zero when she arrives.

Green card is a document for permanent residents - it doesn't sound like that is what she is going to be. Her employer will have petitioned a visa for her and that could have some bearing on her ability to gain credit.

h0b0

7,587 posts

196 months

Wednesday 29th October 2014
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Don't forget tax. You have to pay sales tax on a private sale at the time of registering the car. However, be sure to include the purchase on your tax returns.

sato

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581 posts

211 months

Wednesday 29th October 2014
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Great - all useful. Thanks


jeff m2

2,060 posts

151 months

Wednesday 29th October 2014
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Things will be a lot easier if she starts off by getting a US driving lic.


EK993

1,925 posts

251 months

Thursday 30th October 2014
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You need either a US driving license or identity card to register a car in CT. UK driving license won't work.

Matt - the CT DMV states that once you establish residency you have 30 days to obtain a CT driving license. You can drive on a UK license for a year on a visitors visa. A work visa isn't a visitor visa so I don't think she can go that long.

http://www.ct.gov/dmv/cwp/view.asp?a=805&q=244...

Roo

11,503 posts

207 months

Thursday 30th October 2014
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h0b0 said:
Don't forget tax. You have to pay sales tax on a private sale at the time of registering the car. However, be sure to include the purchase on your tax returns.
Is that the same in all states?

I assumed the sales tax was only payable if you bought from a dealer.

h0b0

7,587 posts

196 months

Thursday 30th October 2014
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Roo said:
h0b0 said:
Don't forget tax. You have to pay sales tax on a private sale at the time of registering the car. However, be sure to include the purchase on your tax returns.
Is that the same in all states?

I assumed the sales tax was only payable if you bought from a dealer.
It's state sales tax so is only applicable in the State you live in. So New Hampshire don't pay anything on second hand private car sales. But, if I buy a car in NH I will pay the NJ sales tax when I register it. But, it is taken into account when you file taxes at the end of the year.

Matt Harper

6,617 posts

201 months

Thursday 30th October 2014
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EK993 said:
You need either a US driving license or identity card to register a car in CT. UK driving license won't work.

Matt - the CT DMV states that once you establish residency you have 30 days to obtain a CT driving license. You can drive on a UK license for a year on a visitors visa. A work visa isn't a visitor visa so I don't think she can go that long.

http://www.ct.gov/dmv/cwp/view.asp?a=805&q=244...
Thanks for the correction Eric - though I'm uncertain what constitutes a "Visitors visa" that has a duration of more than 6 months - a student F, I presume?

Matt Harper

6,617 posts

201 months

Thursday 30th October 2014
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Roo said:
Is that the same in all states?

I assumed the sales tax was only payable if you bought from a dealer.
In FL sales tax is applicable to private sales. The seller must complete the sale price (and provide a receipt) on the transfer of title document. The new owner pays the tax when they re-register the vehicle with DMV.

Obviously, it is possible to 'work the system' by colluding with the seller to enter a bogus sale price on the title document - but it is considered a felony to do so.

unrepentant

21,256 posts

256 months

Thursday 30th October 2014
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sato said:
My sister has got a job in the Conneticut, and will need to buy a car there.
Probably along the lines of a Jetta or something equally uninspiring I guess.

She will have a green card and a US residential address, and plans to be there 2 years. Will she have any problems buying and registering a car on her UK driving licence?
The only two things I know about buying cars in the US is that Craigslist is big listing site, and I believe a Carfax check tells if a car has been crashed or stolen.

What I dont know is the following:
Do cars have annual inspection like our MOT?
Would you expect to see a car serviced every year?
Are there any big name car supermarket type places that she can be reasonably sure she wont get ripped off at?
Some states have emission tests etc.. some have nothing. Where I live there is no test at all which is bonkers in my opinion.

If she goes to Carmax she needs to be aware that their reconditioning is not as comprehensive as that carried out at most main dealers and they give only a very short warranty. Unless she wants a real beater I'd look at franchised dealers first as their cars will probably be certified and they'll always haggle. If she decides she wants to step up to a Volvo, Jag or Land Rover have her call me. wink

As has been mentioned most states will require her to have a local drivers license. She will also find that insurance generally costs more if you don't have that although her insurance will cost more anyway as she'll have no credit.

If she decides to buy privately if you email me the VIN I'll run a carfax for you.

Roo

11,503 posts

207 months

Thursday 30th October 2014
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Thanks for the answers about the tax. Didn't know that.

EK993

1,925 posts

251 months

Thursday 30th October 2014
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Matt Harper said:
Thanks for the correction Eric - though I'm uncertain what constitutes a "Visitors visa" that has a duration of more than 6 months - a student F, I presume?
I did wonder that as B visas are only for 6 months. F was the only thing I could come up with.

sato

Original Poster:

581 posts

211 months

Friday 31st October 2014
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Thanks for your help everyone.
All noted.

sato

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581 posts

211 months

Friday 14th November 2014
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We have done a bit more research now, and due the gap between a new car and a used one not being that great and her bank offering to mirror her UK credit rating in the US if she opens an account there with them, leasing something now appears to be one option. Sorry unrepentant, we a thinking more Fiesta than Range Rover!

How does handing a leased car back early in the US work? Can you just pay off the remainder of the term, or is it more complicated than that?

Matt Harper

6,617 posts

201 months

Friday 14th November 2014
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sato said:
her bank offering to mirror her UK credit rating in the US if she opens an account there with them,
Wow - that's a first! Which bank? There are thousands of recent ex-pats who will be relieved to hear that.

sato

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581 posts

211 months

Friday 14th November 2014
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Matt Harper said:
sato said:
her bank offering to mirror her UK credit rating in the US if she opens an account there with them,
Wow - that's a first! Which bank? There are thousands of recent ex-pats who will be relieved to hear that.
HSBC - or at least that is what they have told her. Whether it works in practice is yet to be seen.

unrepentant

21,256 posts

256 months

Friday 14th November 2014
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sato said:
Matt Harper said:
sato said:
her bank offering to mirror her UK credit rating in the US if she opens an account there with them,
Wow - that's a first! Which bank? There are thousands of recent ex-pats who will be relieved to hear that.
HSBC - or at least that is what they have told her. Whether it works in practice is yet to be seen.
I didn't even think that HSBC leased cars?

As an HSBC customer I'd be interested to know about this. They have pulled right back from the personal banking sector in the US. I use them purely to move money from the UK to the US.

sato

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581 posts

211 months

Friday 14th November 2014
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The car would nt be leased via HSBC. This is just what I have been told, and hasnt been arranged yet so dont get too carried away.

unrepentant

21,256 posts

256 months

Friday 14th November 2014
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sato said:
The car would nt be leased via HSBC. This is just what I have been told, and hasnt been arranged yet so dont get too carried away.
Well if ity's not being leased by them then their "mirroring" her credit rating would be irrelevant. Equifax, Transunion and Experian set the credit scores.

The other thing to bear in mind when leasing is that "lease specials" are subsidised by the manufacturer and are generally bank dependent. Therefore a BMW lease special will be through BMW auto finance, GM through Ally, Land Rover through Chase etc.. You can't take that deal and lease it through another bank.