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Puggit
Original Poster
29,483 posts
117 months
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ashjones
101 posts
35 months
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Wokingham International Airport 
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Manicminer
2,558 posts
66 months
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A new runway at Heathrow will appear eventually, it's inevitable. They should stop mincing about with ridiculous ideas of new estuary airports or West Berks super hubs and just get on with it. I predict however that this current shower of s  te will dither and stall until the next election as they don't have the backbone to just decide and start building.
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Puggit
Original Poster
29,483 posts
117 months
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Manicminer said: I predict however that this current shower of s te will dither and stall until the next election as they don't have the backbone to just decide and start building. They pledged in their manifesto that nothing would happen this government, and are currently looking like sticking to that pledge.
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Deva Link
26,916 posts
114 months
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Puggit said: They pledged in their manifesto that nothing would happen this government, and are currently looking like sticking to that pledge. Cameron confirmed that at PMQs today.
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Manicminer
2,558 posts
66 months
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Puggit said: They pledged in their manifesto that nothing would happen this government, and are currently looking like sticking to that pledge. Precisely.
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dcb
4,442 posts
134 months
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nonuts said: I just wish they'd get on and let them expand Heathrow, I still haven't see any decent non nimby reason not too. Let them build the third runway and do whatever they want. The M25 between the M3 and the M40, with the possible exception of the Berlin ring road, being the most busy road in Europe is not an issue, then ? More at Heathrow would make a very bad situation worse, in my view. Of course, Cameron hasn't got the bottle to make a decision. Whatever choice he makes, he's going to upset someone, hence his preference of kicking it into the long grass of the next Parliament. Wimp. That other Tory bloke, the one with the messy hair and the fondness for Latin, has shown real leadership in advocating the Estuary solution. nonuts said: The estuary idea is s te. This idea is s te, they're much better off expanding something that already works pretty well and if anything improving the infrastructure from Heathrow into and out of London. Plenty of major cities have moved airport. Hell, even Munich did it a few years ago and the old Riem airport is now a thriving conference venue.
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nonuts
15,523 posts
98 months
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dcb said: The M25 between the M3 and the M40, with the possible exception of the Berlin
ring road, being the most busy road in Europe is not an issue, then ?
More at Heathrow would make a very bad situation worse, in my view.
Of course, Cameron hasn't got the bottle to make a decision. Whatever
choice he makes, he's going to upset someone, hence his preference
of kicking it into the long grass of the next Parliament. Wimp.
That other Tory bloke, the one with the messy hair and the fondness for Latin,
has shown real leadership in advocating the Estuary solution. Just out of interest, how often to do you fly in / out of Heathrow or one of the other major airports?
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Sods Law
3,241 posts
94 months
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dcb said: nonuts said: I just wish they'd get on and let them expand Heathrow, I still haven't see any decent non nimby reason not too. Let them build the third runway and do whatever they want. The M25 between the M3 and the M40, with the possible exception of the Berlin ring road, being the most busy road in Europe is not an issue, then ? More at Heathrow would make a very bad situation worse, in my view. Of course, Cameron hasn't got the bottle to make a decision. Whatever choice he makes, he's going to upset someone, hence his preference of kicking it into the long grass of the next Parliament. Wimp. That other Tory bloke, the one with the messy hair and the fondness for Latin, has shown real leadership in advocating the Estuary solution. nonuts said: The estuary idea is s te. This idea is s te, they're much better off expanding something that already works pretty well and if anything improving the infrastructure from Heathrow into and out of London. Plenty of major cities have moved airport. Hell, even Munich did it a few years ago and the old Riem airport is now a thriving conference venue. I have driven past Heathrow at rush hour every day for the last couple of years and flown out of it regularly, I agree it's busy but Heathrow is not the problem, the third run way would not make this worse. T5 has shown, if nothing else, that a well executed implementation of an additional terminal, like that needed for the extra run way, works well, is efficient and has not hindered me any more than before it arrived, in fact for travelling it much better. Actually the general traffic issue in the area is caused more by the M3 junction and the services works further round. For some reason after the Staines junction it seems to be a magnetic car area, daily. If they have to open an additional air port with a suitable runway, motorway access, the. Rather than ripping up more green belt land why don't they use the old Heyford set up, it has all he facilities, space and a run way that used to take galaxy transporters, it's just off the m40 and a34, has security, hangers, fuel dumps, accommodation, offices, ummm allot really I agree with Nonuts the whole Heathrow thing is a mis giuded NIMBY approach, but the base problem is already there and has been for 50years why transfer their complaints somewhere new, with all the associated issues when the obvious existing spot is perfect. And it would include a infrastructure update that would also make the Heathrow area better. Also to note Heathrow employs 50k+ and with the income it brings to the local area it's is the economy, strengthening this will only make more jobs and viable investment opportunities. Now air travel tax in the UK that's another reason to leave this blessed land .........
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dcb
4,442 posts
134 months
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Sods Law said: I have driven past Heathrow at rush hour every day for the last couple of years No you haven't - you might have been parked up at Heathrow during rush hour, but you certainly won't have been very mobile at those times at that place. Sods Law said: Actually the general traffic issue in the area is caused more by the M3 junction and the services works further round. While I'd agree that a motorway junction can be busy, don't you think that having one of the busiest airports in the world nearby is a bigger contributor to congestion ? Sods Law said: why transfer their complaints somewhere new, with all the associated issues when the obvious existing spot is perfect. Really ? They have been talking about moving from Heathrow for the last 40 years and yet you claim it's perfect ? One reason to move is to allow room for future expansion. Doing it out in the estuary gives that future room. No one wants to live too near an airport. Heathrow moving elsewhere would allow a lot of voters in West London to experience a lot of house price appreciation as their homes would no longer be blighted by aircraft noise.
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SVTRick
2,576 posts
64 months
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At last a major Airport in easy driving distance. Competition for LGW & LHR now we can have LHW  Crack on and get building A big plus will be loads a work for us hard pressed local contractors.
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Sods Law
3,241 posts
94 months
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dcb said: Really ? They have been talking about moving from Heathrow for the last
40 years and yet you claim it's perfect ?
One reason to move is to allow room for future expansion. Doing
it out in the estuary gives that future room.
No one wants to live too near an airport. Heathrow moving elsewhere
would allow a lot of voters in West London to experience a
lot of house price appreciation as their homes would no longer
be blighted by aircraft noise. Well if you would like to note, I have driven it every day since may 2010 so I'm not sure why you would know my commute better than me but hey what am I to know. Hmmm so no one needs to live near an airport like Heathrow, ok so if they move it we create another location no one wants to live in? And where do the 50k staff move to are we paying relocation for them? Also do you live near Heathrow and are you a nimby in need of equity? So if I understand you correctly you want to ruin house prices elsewhere so voters in the existing area can see a lot of house price appreciation....... So another area is ruined by the noise, moving it from an area where the noise has been for decades and is accepted as a factor of the area, I'm sorry your argument is thin, your comment on traffic is based on no knowledge of my commute, I accept it's a busy are but no worse than the M1 passed Nottingham, the m42 or 6 by birmingham, the m4/5 passed Bristol at peak hours. Added you seem to be taking the local plus I want financial gain on my property stance, which you seem willing to get this at someone else's loss? I'm sorry but I cannot accept you points. I do accept that the government needs to make a decision and there are options, Expand Gatwick, stanstead, Luton, but these are frankly not 1st choice options Reigate is an interesting one as its on the high speed rail link out of London city area and there is local support for this. Heathrow has the advantage that it's location relatively well connected, is within 1 hour of allot of business locations and finance, is a known entity, and the additional staffing and internal resourse level is beneficial for the airlines, and thus the users, simple as that. However as with all these things there are multiple sides and viewpoints, mixed agendas, good and poor arguments and the enevitabe "NIMBY" The simple fact is we don't have all the information, purely views, and opinions. I appreciate your sentiment and that it is obvious something important to you.
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