Pirbright Speed limit Change!!!
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Unless a camera ends up being in the relevant areas to enforce the new limit, when introduced, the idiots will still break it 
Since the drop to 50 on the Maultway/Red Road there are still loads of cars pushing 60+ at times. Also got overtaken past the Army entrance on the Maultway a few weeks ago by a BMW pushing 60 odd, and that section is now down to 40
The amount of times i've been tailgated / overtaken when legally doing either 40 or 30 in the relevant 40 & 30 sections in Pirbright itself is well in the double figures over the last few years
Some of the cars that have overtaken me have also tended to be driven by school mother types rather than the boy/girl racer sterotype variety in a performance car 
Best one for me 2 years ago was a woman in her RR Sport that nearly rear ended me at the set of traffic lights that go into Brookwood. She'd come through on a red from Brookwood and nearly went into the back of me, i'd been turning right at the lights to go into Pirbright. She then tailgated me until she could overtake a bit further down the road past the cemetary. I decided to follow her, and what a surprise that she turned right at the next set of lights and parked up outside one of the schools just up that road. Must have been late getting to the school for whatever reason so evidently that meant she could drive like a $%$%$% on local roads near where she lives, or ironically where other peoples kids are
Since the drop to 50 on the Maultway/Red Road there are still loads of cars pushing 60+ at times. Also got overtaken past the Army entrance on the Maultway a few weeks ago by a BMW pushing 60 odd, and that section is now down to 40 The amount of times i've been tailgated / overtaken when legally doing either 40 or 30 in the relevant 40 & 30 sections in Pirbright itself is well in the double figures over the last few years
Some of the cars that have overtaken me have also tended to be driven by school mother types rather than the boy/girl racer sterotype variety in a performance car Best one for me 2 years ago was a woman in her RR Sport that nearly rear ended me at the set of traffic lights that go into Brookwood. She'd come through on a red from Brookwood and nearly went into the back of me, i'd been turning right at the lights to go into Pirbright. She then tailgated me until she could overtake a bit further down the road past the cemetary. I decided to follow her, and what a surprise that she turned right at the next set of lights and parked up outside one of the schools just up that road. Must have been late getting to the school for whatever reason so evidently that meant she could drive like a $%$%$% on local roads near where she lives, or ironically where other peoples kids are
Edited by AlexRS2782 on Tuesday 26th March 19:52
AlexRS2782 said:
Since the drop to 50 on the Maultway/Red Road there are still loads of cars pushing 60+ at times.
Now i'm no angel on the roads as a few PHers will know, but there are people who leave me behind by a good distance on the Maultway, people carriers, 4x4s and the big saloons so favoured by the local scrummies are the ones that tend to make even my disregard for speed limits round here look tame. Pulling out from my drive onto the Maultway in the morning can be a game of russian roulette at times yet i have a good 150m visabilty to use.
Dizeee said:
Yep, I put a lot of work into this so glad it has paid off.
My work was solely around the residential end, nothing to do with the bends themselves, FWIW the limit change and signage there had already been agreed and signed off when I presented the petition for our end of the road.
We should be getting two physical features (chicanes with priorty arrows) past the houses, making it impossible for anyone to do the usual 80mph + past the front door.
It's been a long time coming, and the 40mph limit outside the houses is woefully inadequate, dangerous and ignored by practically everyone.
Just needs some Quadruple Glazing to stop the sound of those noisey feckers with Big V8's My work was solely around the residential end, nothing to do with the bends themselves, FWIW the limit change and signage there had already been agreed and signed off when I presented the petition for our end of the road.
We should be getting two physical features (chicanes with priorty arrows) past the houses, making it impossible for anyone to do the usual 80mph + past the front door.
It's been a long time coming, and the 40mph limit outside the houses is woefully inadequate, dangerous and ignored by practically everyone.
The main thing here is to remember this topic is split into 2:
1) The speed limit change that has already gone through for the NSL parts of the bends
2) The new petition (by me) which only refers to the straight piece of existing 40 mph road next to the only houses on the entire bends network
As for 1 I agree it is a bit pointless, it is also going to be very hard to enforce, but there are no residents along that entire stretch, so aside from cyclists what happens down there is down to the way people drive it.
As for 2, this is wholly different situation. What you have there is a residential road incorrectly set as a 40mph (can you believe it was NSL a few years ago) where human beings and children have to cross a race track every day where people regularly exceed the limit by double (sometimes triple). There are also loads of other issues, overtaking and noise / road rage where people stuff themselves into gaps between parked cars, colliding with them and in addition causing a load of near misses.
The attitude down that stretch of road is that of "two fingers up", hence why the issue has been bought up in the proper way to the county council and hence why it will now be reviewed and finally dealt with. Changing it to 30mph will be a waste of time, physical features whether it be chicanes, double whites, a camera or a widening of the pavement is essential as not many that use that stretch give a stuff about the road, the residents or anybody trying to leave their drive or parking area.
1) The speed limit change that has already gone through for the NSL parts of the bends
2) The new petition (by me) which only refers to the straight piece of existing 40 mph road next to the only houses on the entire bends network
As for 1 I agree it is a bit pointless, it is also going to be very hard to enforce, but there are no residents along that entire stretch, so aside from cyclists what happens down there is down to the way people drive it.
As for 2, this is wholly different situation. What you have there is a residential road incorrectly set as a 40mph (can you believe it was NSL a few years ago) where human beings and children have to cross a race track every day where people regularly exceed the limit by double (sometimes triple). There are also loads of other issues, overtaking and noise / road rage where people stuff themselves into gaps between parked cars, colliding with them and in addition causing a load of near misses.
The attitude down that stretch of road is that of "two fingers up", hence why the issue has been bought up in the proper way to the county council and hence why it will now be reviewed and finally dealt with. Changing it to 30mph will be a waste of time, physical features whether it be chicanes, double whites, a camera or a widening of the pavement is essential as not many that use that stretch give a stuff about the road, the residents or anybody trying to leave their drive or parking area.
51 of 77 accidents involved no other vehicles...that's 66.2%. so both sets of bends have had the fun factor taken away because some people can't drive very well? yeah, i've seen cars up embankments and in hedges over the years but always hoped they weren't fatal. obviously some were. anyway, gapemouth and mytchett place RIP.
ps - where can we have fun these days?
ps - where can we have fun these days?
Edited by astra la vista on Tuesday 26th March 23:26
Terminator X said:
Petition signed by 73 people?! Wtf that's enough to dump 20mph off the existing limit, crazy. Won't be long before we're crawling everywhere at 40 or less ffs.
TX.
As Dizeee says above the signed petition from residents was purely in regards to forcing a change in the current 40 limit where it starts before the Golf course and continues past the houses, which seems more than fair given that there does seem to be a large number of tards who can't do 40 through that stretch & feel it's still fine to continue at the NSL or more TX.
The council had already made their own minds up on speed limit on the bends sadly courtesy of other tards that can't keep their car on the black stuff.
Although given that the government / road safety lot keep making such an issue about how "ALL" NSL country roads are so dangerous and must have their speed cut, it's probably not that surprising it's happened
Even the rural roads near where my grandparents live have been cut to 50MPH on the open straight bits & down to 40 on the corners, and that's in a fairly rural area of Hants where there's only been 1 fatal accident in the last 10 years, and only a handful of minor ones as a result of bad weather. The fatal only happened after the lower limits were put in place and were the result of a car sliding on ice on an untreated road and hitting another car when they were doing 60+ & thus not adhering to the limit anyway Terminator X said:
Petition signed by 73 people?! Wtf that's enough to dump 20mph off the existing limit, crazy. Won't be long before we're crawling everywhere at 40 or less ffs.
TX.
Thats most likley 98% of the residents along that stretch.TX.
If I lived there could see their point as houses are very close to the road and
for many car parking is off road opposite which presents a hazzard in itself.
I for one would respect the limit and treat it so.
How many times have we all been on a hoon somewhere but respected the village speed limit
or where conditions dicated extra care.
It's a great road - I've no problem with it being 30 past the residential part of the bends. Shame that more speedo watching will be required in the western stretch rather than watching the road. Not sure it will do much to stop plonkers coming off the road, but the figures in a year will tell the tale.
You can still have fun on the A331, if going 70 on a dc is your thing
You can still have fun on the A331, if going 70 on a dc is your thing
Terminator X said:
Petition signed by 73 people?! Wtf that's enough to dump 20mph off the existing limit, crazy. Won't be long before we're crawling everywhere at 40 or less ffs.
TX.
You totally misunderstand. Go back and read what is written on this thread.TX.
The petition is nothing to do with the bends. It refers to Gole Rd which is at one end of the bends and is a residential road.
73 signed the online petition which referred to Gole Rd. None of those signatories were residents.
A seperate written petition took place (by me) of residents on the road. Of that petition all residents signed, i.e 100%.
AlexRS2782 said:
As Dizeee says above the signed petition from residents was purely in regards to forcing a change in the current 40 limit where it starts before the Golf course and continues past the houses, which seems more than fair given that there does seem to be a large number of tards who can't do 40 through that stretch & feel it's still fine to continue at the NSL or more
The council had already made their own minds up on speed limit on the bends sadly courtesy of other tards that can't keep their car on the black stuff.
Although given that the government / road safety lot keep making such an issue about how "ALL" NSL country roads are so dangerous and must have their speed cut, it's probably not that surprising it's happened Even the rural roads near where my grandparents live have been cut to 50MPH on the open straight bits & down to 40 on the corners, and that's in a fairly rural area of Hants where there's only been 1 fatal accident in the last 10 years, and only a handful of minor ones as a result of bad weather. The fatal only happened after the lower limits were put in place and were the result of a car sliding on ice on an untreated road and hitting another car when they were doing 60+ & thus not adhering to the limit anyway
Your words echo my thoughts and feelings.The council had already made their own minds up on speed limit on the bends sadly courtesy of other tards that can't keep their car on the black stuff.
Although given that the government / road safety lot keep making such an issue about how "ALL" NSL country roads are so dangerous and must have their speed cut, it's probably not that surprising it's happened
Even the rural roads near where my grandparents live have been cut to 50MPH on the open straight bits & down to 40 on the corners, and that's in a fairly rural area of Hants where there's only been 1 fatal accident in the last 10 years, and only a handful of minor ones as a result of bad weather. The fatal only happened after the lower limits were put in place and were the result of a car sliding on ice on an untreated road and hitting another car when they were doing 60+ & thus not adhering to the limit anyway The bends are always going to be a renowned place for fun no matter what happens with it, and although I would never advocate speeding etc the fact is the only human hazards down there are cyclists and dog walkers (not forgetting other road users). I doubt much will change in how the bends will be driven by most after this speed limit change, and, so be it - as it is piece of country road and therefore subject to people's interpretation.
What I can't stand though is what happens where it currently goes from a national to a 40mph on the Pirbright end. As a result of being connected to the bend network, a small group of locals who sleep, wake and live their day on a straight piece of tarmac find themselves living in the pit lane of a race circuit.
There is the easy argument of, "well you chose to live there" however it is impossible to understand the level and depth of mickey taking that goes on until you actually get here. If everyone did 40mph it would be acceptable at best. The fact that around 50% do more than that and around 25% are above 70mph (a motorway speed) has led to the inclusion of Gole Rd in the changes (at last).
Dizeee said:
The roads the only thing that is an "issue". And hopefully not for long.
The houses and life here is different - hence why we moved here
Even as it stands, what we have here far outweighs what goes on in the road outside (which when the front door closes you can forget about).
I'll soon change that The houses and life here is different - hence why we moved here
Even as it stands, what we have here far outweighs what goes on in the road outside (which when the front door closes you can forget about).
Dizeee said:
The roads the only thing that is an "issue". And hopefully not for long.
The houses and life here is different - hence why we moved here
Even as it stands, what we have here far outweighs what goes on in the road outside (which when the front door closes you can forget about).
George n Mildred The houses and life here is different - hence why we moved here
Even as it stands, what we have here far outweighs what goes on in the road outside (which when the front door closes you can forget about).
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