Coral Reef Rondabout

[silverfoxcc]

Bracknell council have been given 2.1m part funding by HMG to 'improve' this by making it light controlled.
now why dont they do a proper bit of modelling by erecting a few 'road works' traffic lights on a temp basis to see how their ideas gel out in reality before spending all that money
also they have got their grubby little hands on about 10.1m so they can
Build a new Warfield /Bracknell releif road (3.5m)
Traffic light the Golden retriver roundabout(1.4m)
Traffic light the Pinewood roundabout unknown
and generally improve Bracknells road network

I am lost for words

[MadDad]

I would imagine this is probably part of a plan to prep Bracknell for the distant 'bigger picture' when Wokingham/Bracknell/Binfield/Warfield/Winkfield merges into one huge feck-off housing estate as part of the local plan.

Sticking lights on the Coral Reef roundabout without dealing with the congestion issues from the M4 through to M3 (and visa versa) does not make sense, Coral Reef is simply one of many pinch points. There have been various 'odd' road improvement planning applications submitted recently that don't make sense and don't deal with any real current issues. Fast forward 18 months when there will be a lot of heavy construction traffic into and out of the area all of a sudden they make sense........

[hewlett]

Councils have relationships with or in-house fancy traffic modelling/transport planning organisations who provide advice and generate evidence to support proposals for money to support these projects. Locals should have the opportunity to view this info, see what the projected benefits are short term and long term and how they fit into any wider plans.

[MX-5 Lazza]

Has putting traffic lights on a roundabout ever improved traffic flow? Anywhere?

[omgus]

MX-5 Lazza said:

Has putting traffic lights on a roundabout ever improved traffic flow? Anywhere?

Nope.

All traffic lights seem to do is make busy roads worse.

[onyx39]

silverfoxcc said:

Bracknell council have been given 2.1m part funding by HMG to 'improve' this by making it light controlled.
now why dont they do a proper bit of modelling by erecting a few 'road works' traffic lights on a temp basis to see how their ideas gel out in reality before spending all that money
also they have got their grubby little hands on about 10.1m so they can
Build a new Warfield /Bracknell releif road (3.5m)
Traffic light the Golden retriver roundabout(1.4m)
Traffic light the Pinewood roundabout unknown
and generally improve Bracknells road network

I am lost for words

There's also a big chunk of cash earmarked for the Meadows Roundabout in the next couple of years.

[AlexRS2782]

onyx39 said:

There's also a big chunk of cash earmarked for the Meadows Roundabout in the next couple of years.

That will certainly be an interesting redesign project, especially at rush hour, given the queues you normally get at the moment.

I think this is also meant to happen around the same time that SCC are hoping to further redevelop (read fully pedestrianize) Camberley town centre, including the shop frontage that runs parallel with the A30.

[MX-5 Lazza]

onyx39 said:

There's also a big chunk of cash earmarked for the Meadows Roundabout in the next couple of years.

That is one junction that really does need a redesign. I wouldn't trust them not to cock it up though.

I drive through Tadley every day, past AWE from the Silchester direction and the big "roundabout" where the road meets the A340 always worked perfectly with no traffic jams and no accidents. A couple of years ago they put 3 sets of traffic lights on it and now there are always lines of traffic waiting at the lights and I get stopped by one, often two of them every time. Completely pointless and only serves to make the traffic much worse. I have no idea why they thought it was required. Did they just have budget they had to spend or lose it?

[onyx39]

MX-5 Lazza said:

onyx39 said:

There's also a big chunk of cash earmarked for the Meadows Roundabout in the next couple of years.

That is one junction that really does need a redesign. I wouldn't trust them not to cock it up though.

I drive through Tadley every day, past AWE from the Silchester direction and the big "roundabout" where the road meets the A340 always worked perfectly with no traffic jams and no accidents. A couple of years ago they put 3 sets of traffic lights on it and now there are always lines of traffic waiting at the lights and I get stopped by one, often two of them every time. Completely pointless and only serves to make the traffic much worse. I have no idea why they thought it was required. Did they just have budget they had to spend or lose it?

It's difficult to know what to do there. I think the road between (the right turn out of) Next and the roundabout could be removed.
Also allowing the traffic into Sandhurst to somehow bypass the roundabout would be good, but not sure how they could do that, maybe make the road behind next two way perhaps?

[silent knight]

MX-5 Lazza said:

Has putting traffic lights on a roundabout ever improved traffic flow? Anywhere?

Yes, it can if done correctly, I spend much of my life working on such things, and reviewing what others have done. That said there are plenty of places where signals have been installed badly and they don't solve the problem that they set out to solve, or in some cases actually make it worse. As traffic flow changes over time it's as relevant to remove signals from where they are now not needed as it is to add new ones....very rarely do we see that happening.


From my understanding, I may be wrong, but I thought the Coral Reef roundabout is due to be converted to a traffic signal controlled crossroads rather than simply adding signals to the current roundabout layout.

[onyx39]

silent knight said:

MX-5 Lazza said:

Has putting traffic lights on a roundabout ever improved traffic flow? Anywhere?

Yes, it can if done correctly, I spend much of my life working on such things, and reviewing what others have done. That said there are plenty of places where signals have been installed badly and they don't solve the problem that they set out to solve, or in some cases actually make it worse. As traffic flow changes over time it's as relevant to remove signals from where they are now not needed as it is to add new ones....very rarely do we see that happening.


From my understanding, I may be wrong, but I thought the Coral Reef roundabout is due to be converted to a traffic signal controlled crossroads rather than simply adding signals to the current roundabout layout.

I remember reading a story about a guy who made a huge improvement to the Hangar Lane gyratory system, just by looking at it, and deciding to make a small change to the light phasing.

[Paul v8]

Personally I think this will be another st idea same as lights at winnersh junc

[Paul v8]

Personally I think this will be another st idea same as lights at winnersh junc

[onyx39]

Paul v8 said:

Personally I think this will be another st idea same as lights at winnersh junc

Paul v8 said:

Personally I think this will be another st idea same as lights at winnersh junc

OK, we heard you the first time!

[Baron Greenback]

Looking forward to the new M3 changes to be made to junction 2-4a!

http://www.highways.gov.uk/roads/road-projects/m3-...

Not looking forward for the average speed camera up for ages untill the new roads system is finish or the big delays when someone breaks down and shuts down the 4th lane!

[Paul v8]

With these smart motorways for like 2-4 junc on m3 the average cameras personally should operate only at peak times and allow traffic to flow better off peak or it's just extra funding the gov.
When I see traffic flowing then suddenly flash up 50 you just see a sea of red lights where people panic and cause more problems than if they just carried on normally and 50% of time 5 signs boards further up road back up come national speed signs .