What a surprise! M3 upgrades to over-run!
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An absolute f***ing joke.
We have had to put up with this s
t which was (according to the last sign I read) due to finish December 2016, now it's summer 2017.
http://www.gethampshire.co.uk/news/local-news/m3-s...
We have had to put up with this s
t which was (according to the last sign I read) due to finish December 2016, now it's summer 2017.http://www.gethampshire.co.uk/news/local-news/m3-s...
"during more than a million man hours of work".
Maybe they shipped in a million men and they all did an hour one night when no-one was looking?
There was a massive pothole in lane 2 between J3 and J4 I didn't see the other day which nearly took my OS front wheel off!
Quoted for posterity:
"the additional construction should mean it would not need to carry out any future scheduled maintenance work for five years after completion"
Oh
right
Maybe they shipped in a million men and they all did an hour one night when no-one was looking?
There was a massive pothole in lane 2 between J3 and J4 I didn't see the other day which nearly took my OS front wheel off!
Quoted for posterity:
"the additional construction should mean it would not need to carry out any future scheduled maintenance work for five years after completion"
Oh
right Edited by FurtiveFreddy on Wednesday 23 March 10:24
FurtiveFreddy said:
"during more than a million man hours of work".
Maybe they shipped in a million men and they all did an hour one night when no-one was looking?
There was a massive pothole in lane 2 between J3 and J4 I didn't see the other day which nearly took my OS front wheel off!
Quoted for posterity:
"the additional construction should mean it would not need to carry out any future scheduled maintenance work for five years after completion"
Oh right
Try claiming for that one, how can you stop and photograph it and get some dimensions.Maybe they shipped in a million men and they all did an hour one night when no-one was looking?
There was a massive pothole in lane 2 between J3 and J4 I didn't see the other day which nearly took my OS front wheel off!
Quoted for posterity:
"the additional construction should mean it would not need to carry out any future scheduled maintenance work for five years after completion"
Oh
right Edited by FurtiveFreddy on Wednesday 23 March 10:24
Anything over 40mm deep is classed as requiring emergency attention.
I claimed twice for pothole damage from SCC Higbways and both times got paid in full within 3 months
but you need photos and some information on the offending hole.
Perhaps we need a "w
ksy" to go around a spray them up.http://www.telegraph.co.uk/men/the-filter/11570595...
To be honest I don't think it will make much difference!
Speed limit when they finish it will probably never be more than 50, if the M25 J12 to J11 is anything to go by!
I tend to use the A331 and A31 to get to the A3 now to avoid the pain of the M3 and the stretch of M25 I mentioned.
Lately I have been round Chertsey quite often coming home because the signs say the M3 is shut.....but when I cross it it's open. Hopeless!
Speed limit when they finish it will probably never be more than 50, if the M25 J12 to J11 is anything to go by!
I tend to use the A331 and A31 to get to the A3 now to avoid the pain of the M3 and the stretch of M25 I mentioned.
Lately I have been round Chertsey quite often coming home because the signs say the M3 is shut.....but when I cross it it's open. Hopeless!
Nooooo!
2 1/4 years was already too long. So basically, it's going to take nearly as half as long as WWII to re-tarmac a hard shoulder, erect some LED signs and re-paint the lines. (Strange analogy I know, but I can't help thinking about all the amazing infrastructure feats achieved when there was a will and means to do so). Now we seem to undertake these infrastructure projects with a kind of hobbyist attitude - we'll get a bit done when time allows. Depressing.
2 1/4 years was already too long. So basically, it's going to take nearly as half as long as WWII to re-tarmac a hard shoulder, erect some LED signs and re-paint the lines. (Strange analogy I know, but I can't help thinking about all the amazing infrastructure feats achieved when there was a will and means to do so). Now we seem to undertake these infrastructure projects with a kind of hobbyist attitude - we'll get a bit done when time allows. Depressing.
I think the thing that annoys me more than anything about this extension is the "spin" that's being put on it.
Are they really trying to have us believe that halfway through a project, which had presumably been planned by "planning professionals" that someone suddenly said, "hang on lads, I've got a great idea!"
Of course not, the project is running behind time, and they came up with this to make us feel that they are doing is a massive favour.
Are they really trying to have us believe that halfway through a project, which had presumably been planned by "planning professionals" that someone suddenly said, "hang on lads, I've got a great idea!"
Of course not, the project is running behind time, and they came up with this to make us feel that they are doing is a massive favour.
Trevatanus said:
I think the thing that annoys me more than anything about this extension is the "spin" that's being put on it.
Are they really trying to have us believe that halfway through a project, which had presumably been planned by "planning professionals" that someone suddenly said, "hang on lads, I've got a great idea!"
Of course not, the project is running behind time, and they came up with this to make us feel that they are doing is a massive favour.
Someone at last thinking outside of the box.. Are they really trying to have us believe that halfway through a project, which had presumably been planned by "planning professionals" that someone suddenly said, "hang on lads, I've got a great idea!"
Of course not, the project is running behind time, and they came up with this to make us feel that they are doing is a massive favour.
Should have just left the f
king M3 alone.wait till (well if) the Thiefrow expansion goes ahead.. !!
Years of M25 and everywhere for 30 miles radius misery will happen
Don't get me started on HS2 who the f
k needs an express rail link - upgrade what's already there.Tory spin on the lot. w
kersI'm in a good mood tonight!
But I won't comment on the M3 F*ck-up (ooops, just gave a clue)!
Anyway based on the previous post I could confirm it is all a load of b*llocks - must have been some tax-payers' generosity looking for a home before the next financial year-end!!
How many Motorways does this part of the UK have? 2% for 10+% of the population on a good day? - FFS build some more, Tw*ts!!!!
We don't need another f*cking North/South railway; most normal voters will never use it, although it may be useful for the snout in the trough pigs we elect by accident/default to enable them to appear from time to time in the areas they claim to represent! Especially as we will pay for it in their expenses!
Those of us who fund this sort of nonsense with no say about how it is implemented may not be impressed!!!
I'm getting on a bit - I may see the M3 J4 to J2 without roadworks finished before I die, but will never ever see it with a 70 limit again (based on my experience of the M25 J12 to J10 variable stretch policed by the misery officers who just like to see it f*cked-up every day)!
Bracknell Forest is a F*cking miserable sh*thole to live in (wish my MP Dr Phillip Lee had to experience this, but he doubtless lives elsewhere) as I would if I had an income like his!!!!!
But I won't comment on the M3 F*ck-up (ooops, just gave a clue)!
Anyway based on the previous post I could confirm it is all a load of b*llocks - must have been some tax-payers' generosity looking for a home before the next financial year-end!!
How many Motorways does this part of the UK have? 2% for 10+% of the population on a good day? - FFS build some more, Tw*ts!!!!
We don't need another f*cking North/South railway; most normal voters will never use it, although it may be useful for the snout in the trough pigs we elect by accident/default to enable them to appear from time to time in the areas they claim to represent! Especially as we will pay for it in their expenses!
Those of us who fund this sort of nonsense with no say about how it is implemented may not be impressed!!!
I'm getting on a bit - I may see the M3 J4 to J2 without roadworks finished before I die, but will never ever see it with a 70 limit again (based on my experience of the M25 J12 to J10 variable stretch policed by the misery officers who just like to see it f*cked-up every day)!
Bracknell Forest is a F*cking miserable sh*thole to live in (wish my MP Dr Phillip Lee had to experience this, but he doubtless lives elsewhere) as I would if I had an income like his!!!!!
DJT said:
Nooooo!
2 1/4 years was already too long. So basically, it's going to take nearly as half as long as WWII to re-tarmac a hard shoulder, erect some LED signs and re-paint the lines. (Strange analogy I know, but I can't help thinking about all the amazing infrastructure feats achieved when there was a will and means to do so). Now we seem to undertake these infrastructure projects with a kind of hobbyist attitude - we'll get a bit done when time allows. Depressing.
They have to spend an hour at the start of each shift reading through the risk assessments and method statements, then it's tea break. It's how we work these days. Keep up!2 1/4 years was already too long. So basically, it's going to take nearly as half as long as WWII to re-tarmac a hard shoulder, erect some LED signs and re-paint the lines. (Strange analogy I know, but I can't help thinking about all the amazing infrastructure feats achieved when there was a will and means to do so). Now we seem to undertake these infrastructure projects with a kind of hobbyist attitude - we'll get a bit done when time allows. Depressing.
krisdelta said:
Wonderful news.. it can make or break a journey so much that I now avoid it at all costs (and I live 2 miles from junction 4a) and go cross country to the M25 at Chertsey.
You fell into the trap.About 5 years ago there was a high level DOT meeting:
"Lads, how can we sort out the traffic issues on the M3"
"Let's spend £134 million pounds pretending to improve it, but drag out the job so long people start to avoid it like the plague, and get used to using other routes, thereby making it less busy when we eventually finish"
"Good idea! That's settled then. Is it lunch time yet?"
DJT said:
Nooooo!
2 1/4 years was already too long. So basically, it's going to take nearly as half as long as WWII to re-tarmac a hard shoulder, erect some LED signs and re-paint the lines. (Strange analogy I know, but I can't help thinking about all the amazing infrastructure feats achieved when there was a will and means to do so). Now we seem to undertake these infrastructure projects with a kind of hobbyist attitude - we'll get a bit done when time allows. Depressing.
Its all down to H and S.2 1/4 years was already too long. So basically, it's going to take nearly as half as long as WWII to re-tarmac a hard shoulder, erect some LED signs and re-paint the lines. (Strange analogy I know, but I can't help thinking about all the amazing infrastructure feats achieved when there was a will and means to do so). Now we seem to undertake these infrastructure projects with a kind of hobbyist attitude - we'll get a bit done when time allows. Depressing.
Dizeee said:
DJT said:
Nooooo!
2 1/4 years was already too long. So basically, it's going to take nearly as half as long as WWII to re-tarmac a hard shoulder, erect some LED signs and re-paint the lines. (Strange analogy I know, but I can't help thinking about all the amazing infrastructure feats achieved when there was a will and means to do so). Now we seem to undertake these infrastructure projects with a kind of hobbyist attitude - we'll get a bit done when time allows. Depressing.
Its all down to H and S.2 1/4 years was already too long. So basically, it's going to take nearly as half as long as WWII to re-tarmac a hard shoulder, erect some LED signs and re-paint the lines. (Strange analogy I know, but I can't help thinking about all the amazing infrastructure feats achieved when there was a will and means to do so). Now we seem to undertake these infrastructure projects with a kind of hobbyist attitude - we'll get a bit done when time allows. Depressing.
Disclaimer I don't actually think they are parasites. They are
s though.I had the usual misfortune to recently get caught in a jam for the length of the northbound roadworks. A repeating sight was one employeee in a digger/roller/etc. along with three hi-viz clad employees and maybe a clipboard or two watching. That's a 300% H&S overhead for many activities.
Worse still, down near J4/J4a there was a crew of workers boarding a minibus to take them to their part of the site to start work. We pretty much travelled the length of the roadworks side-by-side. Me queueing, them navigating men in diggers with their associated fan clubs/groupies.
Now, bear in mind I was held up in that section for nearly an hour (09:00 - 10:00). So it took the van crew the best part of that to get to their place of work. I can only assume that, come 15:00 they need to start getting ready for the return trip!
Worse still, down near J4/J4a there was a crew of workers boarding a minibus to take them to their part of the site to start work. We pretty much travelled the length of the roadworks side-by-side. Me queueing, them navigating men in diggers with their associated fan clubs/groupies.
Now, bear in mind I was held up in that section for nearly an hour (09:00 - 10:00). So it took the van crew the best part of that to get to their place of work. I can only assume that, come 15:00 they need to start getting ready for the return trip!
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