M3 closed again! But good policing on the A3

M3 closed again! But good policing on the A3

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Mr Tidy

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22,259 posts

127 months

Saturday 28th January 2017
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So by way of background I go from Sandhurst to Worcester Park at least once a week, usually twice, to help out my 94 year old mother.

I used to use the M3, but for the last year or so it has been the non-motorway as it is generally closed before I get to it!

So coming home tonight around 20.30 it was closed again from J2 to J4a, so I stayed on the A3 (heading for the A31 and A331).

Between Ripley and Guildford on the A3 I caught up with a police X5 travelling in the inside lane at about 65 mph - usual reaction, everyone sh*t themselves and slowed to 69 mph, but didn't change lanes! Graphic popped up in the rear of the police X5 telling people not to hog the middle lane - great idea, even if it didn't seem to work for the tw*t in a white Polo in front of me. laugh

Hopefully they will start giving out some tickets!


Landshark

2,117 posts

181 months

Saturday 28th January 2017
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It's used a lot, it does take a while for people to understand it means them, but there is also a 'USE CORRECT LANE' Followed by a <<<<< just to get the message across.

Tickets are given out by Surrey for Careless and Inconsiderate driving relating to using the wrong lane.

Dizeee

18,285 posts

206 months

Saturday 28th January 2017
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Its a shame they are not given out by the Met for the same thing, I know that literally no tickets are issued by their traffic department for that and haven't been since the offence was made ticketable. I tried back when I was doing it, but I was on my own and it was frowned upon, the burden of proof was felt to be too high with decent examples of inconvenience being caused which is not often found in the presence of marked police vehicles.

On the A3 into town past Hook ( and beyond into Surrey fpr that matter from my commuting experience ) middle lane / fast lane hoggers continue to rule the roads, refuse to budge and often engage in dangerous bouts of road rage when challenged by a gentle headlight flash or pressure from behind. I put into the "too difficult to deal with" box years ago.

Landshark

2,117 posts

181 months

Saturday 28th January 2017
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It's a massive cultural issue. When you stop these drivers they have no concept of lane discipline at all.

The Inconsiderate part is easy to prove, it's just lower down on a long list of things that need dealing with with fewer people to do it.

Mr Tidy

Original Poster:

22,259 posts

127 months

Monday 30th January 2017
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Landshark said:
It's used a lot, it does take a while for people to understand it means them, but there is also a 'USE CORRECT LANE' Followed by a <<<<< just to get the message across.

Tickets are given out by Surrey for Careless and Inconsiderate driving relating to using the wrong lane.
Shame none was given out on Friday then as far as I could tell! A3 was mostly populated by the clueless, with smatterings of f*ckwits!

Jagmanv12

1,573 posts

164 months

Tuesday 31st January 2017
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Landshark said:
It's a massive cultural issue. When you stop these drivers they have no concept of lane discipline at all.
That is confirmed by the anecdotes posted on here.
Take their licence away and tell them to take the bus.

idea Alternatively fit James Bond style machine guns to your car and blow the prats out of the way.

anonymous-user

54 months

Tuesday 31st January 2017
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Agreed on the policing. See a motorbike copper most mornings filtering in traffic, every day I've seen him he's pulled someone for using phone biggrin
Northbound A3 just before Wisley.

Dizeee

18,285 posts

206 months

Tuesday 31st January 2017
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AVV EM said:
Agreed on the policing. See a motorbike copper most mornings filtering in traffic, every day I've seen him he's pulled someone for using phone biggrin
Northbound A3 just before Wisley.
How do you know he has pulled them for being on the phone?

anonymous-user

54 months

Tuesday 31st January 2017
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Dizeee said:
AVV EM said:
Agreed on the policing. See a motorbike copper most mornings filtering in traffic, every day I've seen him he's pulled someone for using phone biggrin
Northbound A3 just before Wisley.
How do you know he has pulled them for being on the phone?
Because he looks through peoples windows as he filters past and then lights them up.

Landshark

2,117 posts

181 months

Tuesday 31st January 2017
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AVV EM said:
Dizeee said:
AVV EM said:
Agreed on the policing. See a motorbike copper most mornings filtering in traffic, every day I've seen him he's pulled someone for using phone biggrin
Northbound A3 just before Wisley.
How do you know he has pulled them for being on the phone?
Because he looks through peoples windows as he filters past and then lights them up.
He's right, they are being stopped for being on the phone. There's more than one bike, and the bikes aren't on their own!!

slow_1

119 posts

199 months

Wednesday 1st February 2017
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With regards to lane discipline the level of driving standards in this country is now sadly rather shocking. The amount of times I've travelled along the A3 between the Hook Underpass and Cobham and witnessed cars either travelling only in the middle or outside lane with the inside lane completely empty is shocking. Usually the driver has no spatial awareness whatsoever and are in their own world just looking straight ahead!

Iva Barchetta

44,044 posts

163 months

Wednesday 1st February 2017
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If only the camera van regularly positioned about 3/4 mile after Hook could record all the lane hoggers too.


Dizeee

18,285 posts

206 months

Wednesday 1st February 2017
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slow_1 said:
With regards to lane discipline the level of driving standards in this country is now sadly rather shocking. The amount of times I've travelled along the A3 between the Hook Underpass and Cobham and witnessed cars either travelling only in the middle or outside lane with the inside lane completely empty is shocking. Usually the driver has no spatial awareness whatsoever and are in their own world just looking straight ahead!
I agree - standards are appauling and it will only get worse.

I have changed my driving style now and simply undertake them at a safe passing speed. This is always followed by no response from them, remaining in the overtaking lanes of an empty A3, further highlighting their ignorance and continued drain on the planets oxygen resources.

Eric Mc

121,941 posts

265 months

Wednesday 1st February 2017
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Dizeee said:
I agree - standards are appauling and it will only get worse.
Like some people's spelling smile

Jagmanv12

1,573 posts

164 months

Wednesday 1st February 2017
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Iva Barchetta said:
If only the camera van regularly positioned about 3/4 mile after Hook could record all the lane hoggers too.
Is that on the southbound carriageway?

Trevatanus

11,120 posts

150 months

Thursday 2nd February 2017
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slightly off topic, but I plan to use the M3, Southbound early hours of Sunday morning.
Thought that, for once in my life, I would plan ahead, so I called Highways.
They don't know, and won't until 10am Friday Morning.
FFS..... what chance do we have if they don't know of a planned motorway closure 2 days before hand?
This is becoming a farce.

Blackpuddin

16,476 posts

205 months

Thursday 2nd February 2017
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I don't buy the excuse of ignorance among these people. In fact if I was a BIB I'd nick them all the harder if they showed that level of stupidity. Why aren't the overhead signs used more as educational tools?

SVTRick

3,633 posts

195 months

Thursday 2nd February 2017
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Trevatanus said:
slightly off topic, but I plan to use the M3, Southbound early hours of Sunday morning.
Thought that, for once in my life, I would plan ahead, so I called Highways.
They don't know, and won't until 10am Friday Morning.
FFS..... what chance do we have if they don't know of a planned motorway closure 2 days before hand?
This is becoming a farce.
Dependant upon weather and also you cant lay concrete under certain temperature
as it will not conform to the spec.
Plus freezing temps / heavy rain can cause other issues.
Take it as closed unless advised otherwise.


Iva Barchetta

44,044 posts

163 months

Thursday 2nd February 2017
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Jagmanv12 said:
Iva Barchetta said:
If only the camera van regularly positioned about 3/4 mile after Hook could record all the lane hoggers too.
Is that on the southbound carriageway?
Yes,after it goes 2 to 3 lanes on the long sweep left,there's a raised area for it to lurk on and catch speeders.

slow_1

119 posts

199 months

Thursday 2nd February 2017
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Iva Barchetta said:
Yes, after the Hook underpass heading southbound it goes from 2 to 3 lanes on the long sweep left,there's a raised area for it to lurk on and catch speeders.
Yep be very careful as they almost got me one nice and empty Sunday morning - they are just after the long straight just around the first right hand bend!