Reading IDR update

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stevieb

5,252 posts

268 months

Tuesday 20th March 2007
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puggit said:
Reading Council voted against a public inquiry rolleyes


the council will do s if they impliment the scheme they get a golden handshake from central governemtn in extra funding for competing a TIFF project.

stevieb

5,252 posts

268 months

Tuesday 20th March 2007
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Puggit YHM

puggit

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48,488 posts

249 months

Monday 2nd April 2007
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Polus - hasn't your 6 months expired yet?!

Fancy a pint at the new look Travellers Rest some time?

srider

709 posts

283 months

Monday 2nd April 2007
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puggit said:
Polus - hasn't your 6 months expired yet?!

Fancy a pint at the new look Travellers Rest some time?


is it any good now? About the closest thing to a local to me, well except the Star and red cow!

puggit

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48,488 posts

249 months

Tuesday 3rd April 2007
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srider said:
puggit said:
Polus - hasn't your 6 months expired yet?!

Fancy a pint at the new look Travellers Rest some time?


is it any good now? About the closest thing to a local to me, well except the Star and red cow!
I thought you lived closer to the centre of Cav?

It has a huge outdoor seating area out the front now with lots of new garden furniture. With the complete lack of any other outside areas (except for the Griffin) - and being 2 mins walk from home - I may just be found there quite a lot beer



Edited by puggit on Tuesday 3rd April 07:52

srider

709 posts

283 months

Tuesday 3rd April 2007
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puggit said:
srider said:
puggit said:
Polus - hasn't your 6 months expired yet?!

Fancy a pint at the new look Travellers Rest some time?


is it any good now? About the closest thing to a local to me, well except the Star and red cow!
I thought you lived closer to the centre of Cav?

It has a huge outdoor seating area out the front now with lots of new garden furniture. With the complete lack of any other outside areas (except for the Griffin) - and being 2 mins walk from home - I may just be found there quite a lot beer



Edited by puggit on Tuesday 3rd April 07:52


I live just off Amersham road, so not too far. If you see a wheelchair with a big PH sticker on the back, say hello

puggit

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48,488 posts

249 months

Tuesday 3rd April 2007
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srider said:
I live just off Amersham road


eek

srider

709 posts

283 months

Tuesday 3rd April 2007
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puggit said:
srider said:
I live just off Amersham road


eek


rofl

It's not that bad. I live on the newer Housing Assoc. bit down the end, as I need a wheelchair friendly house. No way I could afford anything similar in Reading. It's actually pretty quiet, I get much less hassle here than many of my friends do in supposedly posher areas.

However, I'm not typical of the people living around me

Puggit

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48,488 posts

249 months

Wednesday 12th September 2007
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Olf

11,974 posts

219 months

Wednesday 12th September 2007
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Good news.

Why are road planners such retards though?

Location: A33 Rose Kiln Lane junction where that perfectly good round-a-bout was replaced with a junction.

With all of their combined (8) brain cells why could they not have anticipated that people on the way into Reading would use the right hand lane, right up until the traffic lights only cutting across the hatchings dangerously at the last minute. Wasn't it blindingly obvious this would happen?

What do you never see them sitting down there checking out how well their masterpiece of road engineering has turned out.

And WTF are those high level pedestrian crosing buttons for? Horse riders? Ever seen a horse down there? RETARDS!!!

stevieb

5,252 posts

268 months

Wednesday 12th September 2007
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As i said to puggit before it is good that the IDR scheme has been shelved...

But not all planners are retards, i was on the team apposing the IDR scheme... But i would have prefered this to go to open court for a resolution.....

you will find that this idea started in the coucil office by a politician who wanted to leave his legacy on reading!

Edited by stevieb on Wednesday 12th September 10:41

Puggit

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48,488 posts

249 months

Wednesday 12th September 2007
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stevieb said:
you will find that this idea started in the coucil office by a politician who wanted to leave his legacy on reading!
And luckily he's now left Reading Council!

Scamper

732 posts

223 months

Wednesday 12th September 2007
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Olf said:
Good news.

Why are road planners such retards though?

Location: A33 Rose Kiln Lane junction where that perfectly good round-a-bout was replaced with a junction.

With all of their combined (8) brain cells why could they not have anticipated that people on the way into Reading would use the right hand lane, right up until the traffic lights only cutting across the hatchings dangerously at the last minute. Wasn't it blindingly obvious this would happen?

What do you never see them sitting down there checking out how well their masterpiece of road engineering has turned out.
Drive this almost everyday and i can guarantee that i will see someone cutting in at the last minute because they are in the wrong lane... brilliant piece of engineering!!! there are probably 6 or 7 cars waiting to turn right on this filter lane whereas the majority of traffic is heading straight on. A crash is inevitable at this junction I am afraid.

Good news about the one way system being shelved...although I cant help worry about what they will come up with next...

stevieb

5,252 posts

268 months

Wednesday 12th September 2007
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Scamper said:
Olf said:
Good news.

Why are road planners such retards though?

Location: A33 Rose Kiln Lane junction where that perfectly good round-a-bout was replaced with a junction.

With all of their combined (8) brain cells why could they not have anticipated that people on the way into Reading would use the right hand lane, right up until the traffic lights only cutting across the hatchings dangerously at the last minute. Wasn't it blindingly obvious this would happen?

What do you never see them sitting down there checking out how well their masterpiece of road engineering has turned out.
Drive this almost everyday and i can guarantee that i will see someone cutting in at the last minute because they are in the wrong lane... brilliant piece of engineering!!! there are probably 6 or 7 cars waiting to turn right on this filter lane whereas the majority of traffic is heading straight on. A crash is inevitable at this junction I am afraid.
Why do you blame the engineers.. If people are ignoring the roadmarking and signs why are the engineers at fault?? No one thought it could be the drivers fault trying to save 30 seconds of his journey by ignoring the road markings/signals/signing etc.

If drivers were not so ignorant when they are in there little motor car thinking they are invincible meybe such antics would never happen, but they never spare a thought for other road users.

Puggit

Original Poster:

48,488 posts

249 months

Wednesday 12th September 2007
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stevieb said:
Scamper said:
Olf said:
Good news.

Why are road planners such retards though?

Location: A33 Rose Kiln Lane junction where that perfectly good round-a-bout was replaced with a junction.

With all of their combined (8) brain cells why could they not have anticipated that people on the way into Reading would use the right hand lane, right up until the traffic lights only cutting across the hatchings dangerously at the last minute. Wasn't it blindingly obvious this would happen?

What do you never see them sitting down there checking out how well their masterpiece of road engineering has turned out.
Drive this almost everyday and i can guarantee that i will see someone cutting in at the last minute because they are in the wrong lane... brilliant piece of engineering!!! there are probably 6 or 7 cars waiting to turn right on this filter lane whereas the majority of traffic is heading straight on. A crash is inevitable at this junction I am afraid.
Why do you blame the engineers.. If people are ignoring the roadmarking and signs why are the engineers at fault?? No one thought it could be the drivers fault trying to save 30 seconds of his journey by ignoring the road markings/signals/signing etc.

If drivers were not so ignorant when they are in there little motor car thinking they are invincible meybe such antics would never happen, but they never spare a thought for other road users.
Stevie, I don't think he's having a go at you wink

Have you driven this road? It is dripping with utter stupidity and the layout is primed to cause frequent accidents.

At the very base level it is against human nature.

Baldylocks

17,901 posts

210 months

Wednesday 12th September 2007
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stevieb said:
Scamper said:
Olf said:
Good news.

Why are road planners such retards though?

Location: A33 Rose Kiln Lane junction where that perfectly good round-a-bout was replaced with a junction.

With all of their combined (8) brain cells why could they not have anticipated that people on the way into Reading would use the right hand lane, right up until the traffic lights only cutting across the hatchings dangerously at the last minute. Wasn't it blindingly obvious this would happen?

What do you never see them sitting down there checking out how well their masterpiece of road engineering has turned out.
Drive this almost everyday and i can guarantee that i will see someone cutting in at the last minute because they are in the wrong lane... brilliant piece of engineering!!! there are probably 6 or 7 cars waiting to turn right on this filter lane whereas the majority of traffic is heading straight on. A crash is inevitable at this junction I am afraid.
Why do you blame the engineers.. If people are ignoring the roadmarking and signs why are the engineers at fault??
Because the road markings and new junction is stupid wink There was nothing wrong with the roundabout that was there before

Baldylocks

17,901 posts

210 months

Wednesday 12th September 2007
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Puggit said:
At the very base level it is against human nature.
yes

It really is silly. You just end up with loads of people having to force their way into the left hand lane only to change back again once past the hatching - whats the point?

stevieb

5,252 posts

268 months

Wednesday 12th September 2007
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Baldylocks said:
Puggit said:
At the very base level it is against human nature.
yes

It really is silly. You just end up with loads of people having to force their way into the left hand lane only to change back again once past the hatching - whats the point?
I can answer this one but its not going to be liked again!!!


The point is that it creates a bottle neck outside the town or city, which will then help the council obtain a good mark in the KPIs (key Performace indicators). If the congestion is out of the city the councilors are not really tht bothered as this is in a rural location then the airpollution cause by congestion in the city is reduced.

Anther common KPI is for better journey times across the city, it is achieved the same way by creating bottlenecks outside the city in suburban areas this can be by dodgy traffic signals, cycle lanes poor road layouts etc.

There are people out there that are criticising the councils approach to this but there is no real ways of punnishing the council as if you punnish the council you punish the council tax payers. The only thing i have been involved with is the auditing of every road scheme and the indipendent monitoring of a council who is a serial offender of twisting the rules to get them more funding.


Puggit

Original Poster:

48,488 posts

249 months

Wednesday 12th September 2007
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stevieb said:
Baldylocks said:
Puggit said:
At the very base level it is against human nature.
yes

It really is silly. You just end up with loads of people having to force their way into the left hand lane only to change back again once past the hatching - whats the point?
I can answer this one but its not going to be liked again!!!


The point is that it creates a bottle neck outside the town or city, which will then help the council obtain a good mark in the KPIs (key Performace indicators). If the congestion is out of the city the councilors are not really tht bothered as this is in a rural location then the airpollution cause by congestion in the city is reduced.

Anther common KPI is for better journey times across the city, it is achieved the same way by creating bottlenecks outside the city in suburban areas this can be by dodgy traffic signals, cycle lanes poor road layouts etc.

There are people out there that are criticising the councils approach to this but there is no real ways of punnishing the council as if you punnish the council you punish the council tax payers. The only thing i have been involved with is the auditing of every road scheme and the indipendent monitoring of a council who is a serial offender of twisting the rules to get them more funding.
And could it be just a little bit of a coincidence that this is the road that RBC are planning on introducing a congestion charge on?!

Baldylocks

17,901 posts

210 months

Wednesday 12th September 2007
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stevieb said:
I can answer this one but its not going to be liked again!!!


The point is that it creates a bottle neck outside the town or city, which will then help the council obtain a good mark in the KPIs (key Performace indicators). If the congestion is out of the city the councilors are not really tht bothered as this is in a rural location then the airpollution cause by congestion in the city is reduced.
Thanks for that Steve. I thought it might be something along those lines rolleyes

Does the council view the two bridges as usefull bottle necks too? Theres been talk over the years of building a third bridge, don't think anythings ever come of it though.