G32s -are they any good? :)

G32s -are they any good? :)

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Chris71

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243 months

Monday 9th October 2006
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Hehe, well I sit in the middle ground - I wouldn't say they're the best lookign car, but perfectly palatable if you're getting elise chasing performance for say, £2k! Plus, I've only ever seen one in the and it looked a lot better than the photos.

Of course, if I wanted to be really contraversial I could ask about the 'square shaped' front engined cars (G.....) cortina based I seem to remember with either crossflows or V8s in them! From memory they make the second hand G32s look expensive! Anyone driven one?

g4addicted

425 posts

219 months

Monday 9th October 2006
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We had both G26 and G31 - both cost less than £5K to build when they were new (1986 and 1988), and the G32 won Best in Class at the Sandown Park Kitcar Show. They were both probably the most reliable cars we have ever owned (thank Mr. Ford for that), and were probably the best-looking Ford Cortinas you ever saw. As for handling, well - have you ever driven a Ford Cortina/Taunus? I can tell you that the Ginettas were better, but nothing like a rear-drive Ford Escort - the chassis really needed a five-linked back axle rather than the standard Cortina set-up, which was better suited to a minicab than a sports car...

Chris71

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Tuesday 10th October 2006
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Does the G32 have a standalone chasis or is the body structural in any way?

A convertible sounds kind of tempting!

g4addicted

425 posts

219 months

Tuesday 10th October 2006
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Chassis is stand-alone, but there is a steel frame bonded into the body that supports the screen and provides secure anchorages for things like door hinges...

Chris71

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Wednesday 11th October 2006
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....so my ideal car would probably be a G32 convertible with something like a zetec slotted in

Good handling, wind in your hair, economy, reliability and boot space!

g4addicted

425 posts

219 months

Wednesday 11th October 2006
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Speak to a convertible owner first - cutting the top off a car designed to have a roof rarely improves the handling! I would go for a coupe personally, especiaklly as most had a very big 'tilt and slide' sunroof fitted as standard.

Then dump the CVH in the skip and fit a Zetec, either 1800 or 2000, you takes your choice (we were advised that the 1800 is more free-revving) The Duratec won't fit, as the exhaust and induction are on the wrong side.

I would also suggest that you fit an LSD while the box is out.

g4addicted

425 posts

219 months

Wednesday 11th October 2006
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As for ther boot - don't put your shopping in it. It gets quite warm back there in the luggage compartment...

Chris71

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243 months

Wednesday 11th October 2006
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g4addicted said:
As for ther boot - don't put your shopping in it. It gets quite warm back there in the luggage compartment...


Mmmm, ice cream.

Hmmm, thought someone said the body was non structural on those? To be fair they seem to be rare even compared to the G32 coupes and even less likely to keep the water out! The car does appeal though.

Despite being reasonably mechanically minded I don't really have the space, equipment or hands on experience to do an engine transplant, so I think I'd keep my eyes open for one done by somebody else!! Preferably Ginetta....

Derek Smith

45,703 posts

249 months

Monday 16th October 2006
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GTRene said:
www.pistonheads.com/sales/97836.htm

a real bargain...you have to do something to make it better though, but even then its a bargain me thinks for the handy man/woman

GTRene

That's mine! As you say, a real bargain. I've bought a TVR Chimaera and my first intention was to keep both, the Tiv for summer and the G32 for winter but in the end I used the Chim throughout the year. Insurance is about 40% for that of the Chim despite the performance under about 80mph being more or less the same.

The G32 has been very reliable apart from a defective waterpump bearing that just been replaced. The 1.9 engine is remarkably good but the 1.6 can be fun as well, although not, perhaps, on the open road.

The car is very pointy. Get the front wheels going in the right direction and press the accelerator. Just my level of subtlty. Ultimate grip is tremendous. On the way back from Le Mans I made a mess of a corner yet the car went on and on gripping. It's the Walklett's crowning glory.

We (I share the car with my son) have never had problems with overheating before the water pump decided to give up the ghost, this despite M25 traffic jams. The only problem can be the heat from the engine coming up out of the air vent, but close your window and it's gone. It's on the original starter and generator so underbonnet heat can't be much of a problem.

Not the easiest car in the world to work on, but that said, we haven't done much to it.

It really is tremendous fun to drive. Makes you feel as if you are a good driver. I reckon they are a bargain but, as I'm selling one, I'm bound to.

My son's just bought a house so he needs the money.

www.nzoz.co.uk
Derek

Edited by Derek Smith on Monday 16th October 19:41

Derek Smith

45,703 posts

249 months

Monday 16th October 2006
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Chris71 said:
I've moved this from the kit car forum.....


They might not let you into the Ginetta owners' Club if you ever call the G32 a kit car. It was only ever sold fully made up.

Derek

Chris71

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21,536 posts

243 months

Tuesday 17th October 2006
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Derek Smith said:
GTRene said:
www.pistonheads.com/sales/97836.htm

a real bargain...you have to do something to make it better though, but even then its a bargain me thinks for the handy man/woman

GTRene

That's mine! As you say, a real bargain. I've bought a TVR Chimaera and my first intention was to keep both, the Tiv for summer and the G32 for winter but in the end I used the Chim throughout the year. Insurance is about 40% for that of the Chim despite the performance under about 80mph being more or less the same.

The G32 has been very reliable apart from a defective waterpump bearing that just been replaced. The 1.9 engine is remarkably good but the 1.6 can be fun as well, although not, perhaps, on the open road.

The car is very pointy. Get the front wheels going in the right direction and press the accelerator. Just my level of subtlty. Ultimate grip is tremendous. On the way back from Le Mans I made a mess of a corner yet the car went on and on gripping. It's the Walklett's crowning glory.

We (I share the car with my son) have never had problems with overheating before the water pump decided to give up the ghost, this despite M25 traffic jams. The only problem can be the heat from the engine coming up out of the air vent, but close your window and it's gone. It's on the original starter and generator so underbonnet heat can't be much of a problem.

Not the easiest car in the world to work on, but that said, we haven't done much to it.

It really is tremendous fun to drive. Makes you feel as if you are a good driver. I reckon they are a bargain but, as I'm selling one, I'm bound to.

My son's just bought a house so he needs the money.

www.nzoz.co.uk
Derek

Edited by Derek Smith on Monday 16th October 19:41


Sorry, my appologies to the Ginetta people

Wasn't the G27 available as a kit?? (kind of a bit off topic, anway...)

If I had another thousand pounds in my bank account I'd be giving you a call Dereck. Let me know if the car is still available in a few pay cheques time

MTv Dave

2,101 posts

257 months

Tuesday 17th October 2006
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Derek - what kind of pace does your car have at b-road speeds (0-60, 40-80 and conering ability) compared to, say a spec'ed up Elise, or your Griff?

I may have to change my car sooner than I wanted and I must say, I'm pretty tempted by yours.

g32turbo

365 posts

230 months

Tuesday 17th October 2006
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Chris71 said:


Sorry, my appologies to the Ginetta people

Wasn't the G27 available as a kit?? (kind of a bit off topic, anway...)



No need to apologise the GOC are equally welcoming to owners of kit or production models.

Derek Smith

45,703 posts

249 months

Tuesday 17th October 2006
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MTv Dave said:
Derek - what kind of pace does your car have at b-road speeds (0-60, 40-80 and conering ability) compared to, say a spec'ed up Elise, or your Griff?

I may have to change my car sooner than I wanted and I must say, I'm pretty tempted by yours.

The G32 is at its best on B and unclassified roads. I reckon that there's little to choose between my 4 litre Chim and the G32 on such routes. That said, the TVR is much more comfortable and, given a significant straight, would pull away without problem. They are entirely different cars. Nice though the standard Elise is, I'd expect to be able to stay with it in the G32. As for cornering, ultimate grip is extremely high. I've not lost it and I've cocked up the occasional corner, unfortunately. I've got Continentals on the back and they are superb. Following advice, I'd taken two degrees of tow-in off the back wheels as this gives a bit of feedback near the limit.

We've got a fast road cam and when it gets to around 3500 revs, the driver's face lights up. It really is impressive. It's still reasonable at under that although the tick-over can be a bit lumpy. Small price to pay. You have to be a bit careful when accelerating hard with the steering wheel not centralised, although not as much as my Chim. The Contis are great in the wet but I must admit to not being brave enough to go silly when it rains.

In talking to my son, he's told me of two instances when the car did break down: fan belt problem and a defective water pump, both with the 1.6 engine. The fan belt was extremely difficult to adjust, so I would assume the same source for both. Over- and under-tightening probably. So, I stand corrected. No totally reliable. Not quite.

Derek Smith

45,703 posts

249 months

Tuesday 17th October 2006
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g32turbo said:


No need to apologise the GOC are equally welcoming to owners of kit or production models.

I will endorse that.

Derek Smith

45,703 posts

249 months

Thursday 19th October 2006
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I've just sold my G32. Despite having money in my poocket, I'm not really that happy. It is a shame to see it go, although it seems the new owner is an enthusiast.

To anyone else considering buying one, go for it. They are a bargain. Cheap to service, insure, repair and own. Fun to drive and, with the 1.9, faster than it needs to be. It's comfortable for me at 6'3" and, should you be smaller, there's lots of adjustment. There's sufficient luggage space.

Shame it's gone.

Derek

Chris71

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Friday 20th October 2006
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Derek Smith said:
I've just sold my G32. Despite having money in my poocket, I'm not really that happy. It is a shame to see it go, although it seems the new owner is an enthusiast.

To anyone else considering buying one, go for it. They are a bargain. Cheap to service, insure, repair and own. Fun to drive and, with the 1.9, faster than it needs to be. It's comfortable for me at 6'3" and, should you be smaller, there's lots of adjustment. There's sufficient luggage space.

Shame it's gone.

Derek


My thoughts exactly - in the nicest possible way, I was hoping you'd have problems shifting it until I had two grand to spare

Derek Smith

45,703 posts

249 months

Thursday 26th October 2006
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The G32 went to a new home today. Sad though it may seem, I actually gave the car a quick clean this morning so it didn't look too dirty on the back of the truck.