real world focus st mpg
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2 years of 70 mile a day commute - mix of 20 miles on A road, 30 miles on B road thru villages etc and 20 miles on motorway. 18,000 miles total per year with non-commute driving too.
MPG has never averaged above 25 either on the trip computer or by manual calcs.
Long motorway journeys will see it creep up to 28-29 but it soon comes down again. worst i consistently had was 20mpg when i first got the car and was "exploring the performance and handling characteristics"
mate had one before me and got roughly the same.
MPG has never averaged above 25 either on the trip computer or by manual calcs.
Long motorway journeys will see it creep up to 28-29 but it soon comes down again. worst i consistently had was 20mpg when i first got the car and was "exploring the performance and handling characteristics"
mate had one before me and got roughly the same.
vx220 said:
Mate considering an st, only does about ten miles a day commute but wife has a diesel economy fixation.
Mate does occasional long journeys, so tell me your mpg experiences
Thanks in advance
I use mine for a 10 mile commute.it does around 24mpg.Mate does occasional long journeys, so tell me your mpg experiences
Thanks in advance
If he is only doing such a small distance then i would not get a diesel unless he wants issues with dpf filters etc.
d-thirsty given that it was only running 265bhp.
davey68 said:
However hard I tried I struggled to get better than 25mpg
Thing is, at the same time, it is quite difficult to do much worse. Unless those who talk of sub 20 spend more or less every single mile on urban crawl, they need to adjust their driving style or have a wrong 'un.Too lazy & disinterested to work off anything other than trip, but never had less than 22.something over any meaningful distance and probably get more like 25 - 28 overall, depending on traffic, weather and the like. Long & disinterested run sees 30+, as already suggested.
Thing is, I only got 29 - 31 out of a Civic R and the super frugal Golf I drove last year would only do high 40's, even with stop/start etc. The difference was worth every single bean in fuel costs.
Slightly too much made of the ST fuel consumption at times. Whole costs are a better view, plus equivalent comparisons with the alternatives.
Lots of other running costs over an extended mileage here, but think I was pessimistic on the MPG. More age/mileage expense since then as well (and cambelt change looming).
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Edited by DukeDickson on Saturday 25th August 03:11
I ran www.focusstoc.com for 3 years and was a member for 5 so I've had and heard pretty much every MPG conversation over the years. It's just not an economical car compared to rivals - not even close.
Funk said:
I ran www.focusstoc.com for 3 years and was a member for 5 so I've had and heard pretty much every MPG conversation over the years. It's just not an economical car compared to rivals - not even close.
What rivals? What do you call not even close? What about overall cost to own?As a simple example, my last little Honda wasn't much more than 10% better on gas, yet on overall running costs it was appreciably worse.
As for the owners club, somewhat excitable overall & most could do with a few driving lessons (amongst other things).
DukeDickson said:
What rivals? What do you call not even close? What about overall cost to own?
As a simple example, my last little Honda wasn't much more than 10% better on gas, yet on overall running costs it was appreciably worse.
As for the owners club, somewhat excitable overall & most could do with a few driving lessons (amongst other things).
Like most forums, it was good in the early days (when I ran it). But as the car started to fall into the reach of the chavvier element, the site went downhill - it's one of the reasons I stepped down from running it and ultimately why I left. It used to be great though, and a mine of incredible info about the car.As a simple example, my last little Honda wasn't much more than 10% better on gas, yet on overall running costs it was appreciably worse.
As for the owners club, somewhat excitable overall & most could do with a few driving lessons (amongst other things).
I test-drove the following when considering the ST:
Astra VXR
Golf GTI MkV
Renault Megane R26
Seat Leon Cupra R (the one before they made it ugly)
At the time, they were all close competitors; c.£20-24k, similar performance. They were ALL much better on economy. The ST really isn't good on fuel for the given power output. The Golf and VXR averaged around 25-30mpg for the couple of days I had them - a significant difference compared with the ST. Why did I go with the latter? The noise, ultimately. Nothing else could come close to the sound of the 5-pot. The Golf handled better but sounded a little flat. The VXR's interior was hideous and the Renault I didn't 'gel' with. The Cupra R was an outgoing model (see above) built on an older platform compared to the new ST and GTI.
I'd come from a Golf V6 4Motion which also averaged sub-20mpg figures so I worked on the basis that at the time, I could live with the MPG.
I can only speak for what i've owned. My 2007 ST never bettered 25mpg (always run on V power) unless I intentionally tried to baby it on a run and keep it off boost. I've also owned EP3 and FN2 type R's. Exact same commute/use and they both averaged just over 30mpg. I know cost of ownership is more than fuel but to me it's thirst is excessive for a hot hatch of it's performance level. Just to add I also ran a 2005 mk5 golf gti, and that averaged around 32mpg too so regards it's rivals it is thirsty.
Edited by davey68 on Saturday 25th August 12:04
Magic919 said:
I presume this is Focus ST 2.5. For a ten mile commute wife used to get about 17 mpg. Achieved low 20s on longer runs.
Yes.There tends to be an accepted method of referring to the earlier car as the 'ST170' (which it was) and the later 225bhp just as the 'ST' (which is how it was badged). We had a number of people getting pissy on the STOC as we didn't cater for the ST170 (not to be nasty - we just set the forum up for the launch of the new model) and there wasn't any useful information about it from members. Weird how many thought we were being 'elitist' though.
We just genuinely didn't have people on the site with ST170s and there were other sites out there with far greater info and depth of experience already.
Funk said:
Like most forums, it was good in the early days (when I ran it). But as the car started to fall into the reach of the chavvier element, the site went downhill - it's one of the reasons I stepped down from running it and ultimately why I left. It used to be great though, and a mine of incredible info about the car.
I test-drove the following when considering the ST:
Astra VXR
Golf GTI MkV
Renault Megane R26
Seat Leon Cupra R (the one before they made it ugly)
At the time, they were all close competitors; c.£20-24k, similar performance. They were ALL much better on economy. The ST really isn't good on fuel for the given power output. The Golf and VXR averaged around 25-30mpg for the couple of days I had them - a significant difference compared with the ST. Why did I go with the latter? The noise, ultimately. Nothing else could come close to the sound of the 5-pot. The Golf handled better but sounded a little flat. The VXR's interior was hideous and the Renault I didn't 'gel' with. The Cupra R was an outgoing model (see above) built on an older platform compared to the new ST and GTI.
I'd come from a Golf V6 4Motion which also averaged sub-20mpg figures so I worked on the basis that at the time, I could live with the MPG.
Yes, I used to go on there, but haven't logged on for an absolute age - I just can't think of a reason why I would, beyond maybe looking for a bit of info related to faults etc. While the forum has been & maybe still is a mine of information, it can also be a hive of misinformation. IMHO, the fuel consumption question is often one of these.I test-drove the following when considering the ST:
Astra VXR
Golf GTI MkV
Renault Megane R26
Seat Leon Cupra R (the one before they made it ugly)
At the time, they were all close competitors; c.£20-24k, similar performance. They were ALL much better on economy. The ST really isn't good on fuel for the given power output. The Golf and VXR averaged around 25-30mpg for the couple of days I had them - a significant difference compared with the ST. Why did I go with the latter? The noise, ultimately. Nothing else could come close to the sound of the 5-pot. The Golf handled better but sounded a little flat. The VXR's interior was hideous and the Renault I didn't 'gel' with. The Cupra R was an outgoing model (see above) built on an older platform compared to the new ST and GTI.
I'd come from a Golf V6 4Motion which also averaged sub-20mpg figures so I worked on the basis that at the time, I could live with the MPG.
The ST is never going to be great, I wouldn't argue that for a second, but it isn't quite as bad as it is made out & I suspect driving style has something to do with it. However, look at the whole picture and what you might lose (to a degree) in one aspect, you gain in others. The extra cost of fuel compared to the Type R I had is broadly the same as the additional insurance costs, for one. Then there's the other costs around servicing, consumables etc.
It looks like we had sort of similar candidates, although I would have the R32, 130i and A3 3.2 instead of the Renault & Seat. I didn't bother test driving the others TBH - I felt the Golfs were too expensive & couldn't find the right Bimmer at the right price in the timescale I had, so it ended up as a straight choice between the Ford and the Vx. I also thought the Astra's interior was pony & didn't think it would remotely compare to the Honda, engine wise. So, I turned right rather than left at the end of the road and am very glad I did. Mine probably won't be around for much longer, but it has served me well over a good distance/timeframe. Going to miss the noise, but it is time to move from 5 to 6, I suspect.
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