Ford S-Max 08 - CAMBELT SNAP

Ford S-Max 08 - CAMBELT SNAP

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Bamie

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4 posts

108 months

Friday 10th April 2015
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Hi, was wondering if anyone has time to help.
I purchased my S Max in October last year with 85K on the clock. On getting the car I asked about the cam (Previous cars have had them changed at 60-80k so was very wary!) and was shown paperwork to state it did not need a change until car is 10 years old or 120,000 miles.
You know what is coming next - today it snapped, with my 3 children (All under 5) in the car on a back road in the middle of nowhere.

I am frustrated, the car has 91K on the clock, no warnings of this happening, not due a service/MOT and been the perfect car.
What to do now? Do I have a leg to stand on with the original garage? What about FORD? Will they replace due to it snapping before it's life time?
What is the cost of this repair?

Been a bad year this year so far this is one of many BAD times.

Any advice is very much appreciated.
Tracy

Justin S

3,641 posts

261 months

Saturday 11th April 2015
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Sorry to hear about the cambelt. What caused the belt to fail ? Was the water pump or idler seized ? Cambelts 'can' fail , but usually there is another fault which causes them to break.
Mate has a garage and seen many cars fail before their allotted change time. The manufacturers will always point out that its a 'guideline' rather than it will break at 110001 miles . Always err on caution with cambelts/ water pumps, idler bearings and anything else.
Its a case of now finding what is more economical to do, rather then repair than to replace the engine sadly.

JulianHJ

8,741 posts

262 months

Saturday 11th April 2015
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Which engine variant do you have?

Bamie

Original Poster:

4 posts

108 months

Friday 17th April 2015
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Hi, thank you for your reply. The model is a 1.8. Progress since, I have managed to get the garage I purchased from to recover the car from my home to their garage, it has been stripped down at cost to them. There is significant damage to the pistons? and the cylinder head. Quote is right up to 1700, although I have managed to negotiate a cost of 900-1000 + VAT. I guess that is as good as I can get it, the garage I purchased from no longer want to help. Never again will I go against my gut feeling, wish i'd just spent that 200/250 getting it replaced.

JulianHJ

8,741 posts

262 months

Friday 17th April 2015
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Diesel presumably? I have the same engine in my Focus. Because of horror stories like yours I had my cambelt and aux belt done at about 80k - the aux belt was a total mess, and wouldn't have lasted much longer. Have you phoned around for quotes elsewhere for a reconditioned engine?

Bamie

Original Poster:

4 posts

108 months

Friday 17th April 2015
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Hi, thank you for your reply. The model is a 1.8. Progress since, I have managed to get the garage I purchased from to recover the car from my home to their garage, it has been stripped down at cost to them. There is significant damage to the pistons? and the cylinder head. Quote is right up to 1700, although I have managed to negotiate a cost of 900-1000 + VAT. I guess that is as good as I can get it, the garage I purchased from no longer want to help. Never again will I go against my gut feeling, wish i'd just spent that 200/250 getting it replaced.

Bamie

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4 posts

108 months

Friday 17th April 2015
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Yes a Diesel, I have and quotes vary extremely based on area. The area the garage is based is one of cheaper living in comparison to garages here, one quoted 2000 after VAT, It will be costly for me to move the car as well now. I WISH I had gone with my gut, I really do, but lessons learnt to NEVER listen to a salesman hey!

Justin S

3,641 posts

261 months

Friday 17th April 2015
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I would have thought it cheaper to get the engine out and a replacement low mileage unit fitted in its place. TDCI engines are pretty common and may make a more sensible option to take. Issue is, that with piston damage, if that is the case, you may need replacement pistons. It seems a bit extreme to do, when honing possible worn bores, new pistons in old bores and possible oil consumption issues, let alone swarf in the engine from destruction can be potential future issues you might face .
If you believe the garage is a reputable outfit, then I would ask for this option. Obviously you will , if you did get a replacement engine get a new cambelt and tensioners fitted before it gets put in the car.
Did you find what actually failed , to take the cambelt with it?

Edited by Justin S on Friday 17th April 20:49