Ford Tourneo Courier (2023)
Discussion
After years of looking at Ford's UK range and finding nothing at all that even remotely appeals to me, up pops this.
https://www.ford.co.uk/cars/all-new-tourneo-courie...
It might be just me but I actually think this thing is quite cool. I've always had a thing for van derived MPVs, but they often end up looking badly proportioned. This one looks particularly nice.
The design has slight Defender vibes, especially in green with the white roof. It would look great with steel wheels. The interior looks a bit plain but it's not bad for the price. I like that the screen is now integrated into the driver display unit rather than sticking out of the dashboard.
The BEV version is not for me (and does not arrive until the end of 2024 in any case) but there is a petrol version starting at under £26k. These days, for a reasonably sized 5 seater MPV type thing, that strikes me as pretty good value. Admittedly it's a 1.0 litre engine with 125BHP but it's probably fine if you are not towing anything. To put it into context, the Honda Jazz starts at £26k these days.
I am sure it will be useless off-road but that is not the target market. It's aimed at the same people who buy the passenger versions of Berlingos and Rifters, but (to me) looks cooler and better proportioned.
Interestingly, the Berlingo went BEV only until customers revolted, sales fell off a cliff and Citroen re-introduced a petrol version. Ford seem to have learned that lesson and brought a petrol version to market. No diesel though.
IMHO they've really nailed the design. It's utilitarian in a cool kind of way. Surely this has the potential to do really well. I think that Skoda Yeti fans would be interested, as would people considering a Dacia but who want something a bit better. I wonder why nobody seems to be talking about it. Interested to know what people think of it, or indeed if anyone has ordered one.
https://www.ford.co.uk/cars/all-new-tourneo-courie...
It might be just me but I actually think this thing is quite cool. I've always had a thing for van derived MPVs, but they often end up looking badly proportioned. This one looks particularly nice.
The design has slight Defender vibes, especially in green with the white roof. It would look great with steel wheels. The interior looks a bit plain but it's not bad for the price. I like that the screen is now integrated into the driver display unit rather than sticking out of the dashboard.
The BEV version is not for me (and does not arrive until the end of 2024 in any case) but there is a petrol version starting at under £26k. These days, for a reasonably sized 5 seater MPV type thing, that strikes me as pretty good value. Admittedly it's a 1.0 litre engine with 125BHP but it's probably fine if you are not towing anything. To put it into context, the Honda Jazz starts at £26k these days.
I am sure it will be useless off-road but that is not the target market. It's aimed at the same people who buy the passenger versions of Berlingos and Rifters, but (to me) looks cooler and better proportioned.
Interestingly, the Berlingo went BEV only until customers revolted, sales fell off a cliff and Citroen re-introduced a petrol version. Ford seem to have learned that lesson and brought a petrol version to market. No diesel though.
IMHO they've really nailed the design. It's utilitarian in a cool kind of way. Surely this has the potential to do really well. I think that Skoda Yeti fans would be interested, as would people considering a Dacia but who want something a bit better. I wonder why nobody seems to be talking about it. Interested to know what people think of it, or indeed if anyone has ordered one.
I have a 2018 Connect LWB with the 1.5 engine that makes 120 brake, so the 1.0 is more powerful. Mine isn't what you would call fast, but as an ownership prospect I'm genuinely delighted with it, it's quiet and refined for a van, and it generally feels quick enough.
Don't know anything about the latest shape model, other than I've done what I've realised is typical of me and disliked the aesthetics immediately. From previous experience, just as they're about to change the shape again, I'll suddenly decide to like it and buy one, thereby continuing my ownership experience of never owning a current model.
I don't know if that engine has been updated much over the years, hopefully it has as it wasn't regarded as the most reliable of things, with early cars fitted with it having coolant problems and wet belt issues if I'm remembering correctly. If it has the wet belt system, look elsewhere, it's a tragically poor and unreliable design. Ford aren't known to be especially helpful when it goes wrong, typically just out of warranty. If that engine is what I think it is, I'd look at the last of the earlier models with the 1.5 diesel if I was in your shoes.
Don't know anything about the latest shape model, other than I've done what I've realised is typical of me and disliked the aesthetics immediately. From previous experience, just as they're about to change the shape again, I'll suddenly decide to like it and buy one, thereby continuing my ownership experience of never owning a current model.
I don't know if that engine has been updated much over the years, hopefully it has as it wasn't regarded as the most reliable of things, with early cars fitted with it having coolant problems and wet belt issues if I'm remembering correctly. If it has the wet belt system, look elsewhere, it's a tragically poor and unreliable design. Ford aren't known to be especially helpful when it goes wrong, typically just out of warranty. If that engine is what I think it is, I'd look at the last of the earlier models with the 1.5 diesel if I was in your shoes.
Edited by Heaveho on Friday 27th October 15:47
Heaveho said:
I don't know if that engine has been updated much over the years, hopefully it has as it wasn't regarded as the most reliable of things, with early cars fitted with it having coolant problems and wet belt issues if I'm remembering correctly. If it has the wet belt system, look elsewhere, it's a tragically poor and unreliable design. Ford aren't known to be especially helpful when it goes wrong, typically just out of warranty. If that engine is what I think it is, I'd look at the last of the earlier models with the 1.5 diesel if I was in your shoes.
I believe it is the 1.0 3 cylinder Ecoboost. I know that it has a horrible reputation, but I was hoping that after all these years they would have sorted it and got it right. Anyone know whether todays 1.0 Ecoboost is better than the previous ones? Wikipedia suggests that it has been updated, but I am not sure if it is any more reliable?AmitG said:
I believe it is the 1.0 3 cylinder Ecoboost. I know that it has a horrible reputation, but I was hoping that after all these years they would have sorted it and got it right. Anyone know whether todays 1.0 Ecoboost is better than the previous ones? Wikipedia suggests that it has been updated, but I am not sure if it is any more reliable?
A quick google later and I am not filled with hope. Sorry.Our Family Fiesta 2013 1.0 125bhp eco boost has covered 130000 miles with no engine trouble. Bought new always serviced at the 12000 mile service mark (Ford un to 60k) with correct oil and oem parts. The belts were changed at around 120k, £730 from our local indie garage. Would I buy another well yes I have a 2020 van now on 92k and again no issues.That said I bought the 5year unlimited mileage warranty £1000 (Vans only). Would I buy a second hand without good provenance, no!
AmitG said:
After years of looking at Ford's UK range and finding nothing at all that even remotely appeals to me, up pops this.
https://www.ford.co.uk/cars/all-new-tourneo-courie...
It might be just me but I actually think this thing is quite cool. I've always had a thing for van derived MPVs, but they often end up looking badly proportioned. This one looks particularly nice.
The design has slight Defender vibes, especially in green with the white roof. It would look great with steel wheels. The interior looks a bit plain but it's not bad for the price. I like that the screen is now integrated into the driver display unit rather than sticking out of the dashboard.
The BEV version is not for me (and does not arrive until the end of 2024 in any case) but there is a petrol version starting at under £26k. These days, for a reasonably sized 5 seater MPV type thing, that strikes me as pretty good value. Admittedly it's a 1.0 litre engine with 125BHP but it's probably fine if you are not towing anything. To put it into context, the Honda Jazz starts at £26k these days.
I am sure it will be useless off-road but that is not the target market. It's aimed at the same people who buy the passenger versions of Berlingos and Rifters, but (to me) looks cooler and better proportioned.
Interestingly, the Berlingo went BEV only until customers revolted, sales fell off a cliff and Citroen re-introduced a petrol version. Ford seem to have learned that lesson and brought a petrol version to market. No diesel though.
IMHO they've really nailed the design. It's utilitarian in a cool kind of way. Surely this has the potential to do really well. I think that Skoda Yeti fans would be interested, as would people considering a Dacia but who want something a bit better. I wonder why nobody seems to be talking about it. Interested to know what people think of it, or indeed if anyone has ordered one.
I have ordered 8, due to arrive early next year. There is a slight delay due to alarm/immobiliser issues.https://www.ford.co.uk/cars/all-new-tourneo-courie...
It might be just me but I actually think this thing is quite cool. I've always had a thing for van derived MPVs, but they often end up looking badly proportioned. This one looks particularly nice.
The design has slight Defender vibes, especially in green with the white roof. It would look great with steel wheels. The interior looks a bit plain but it's not bad for the price. I like that the screen is now integrated into the driver display unit rather than sticking out of the dashboard.
The BEV version is not for me (and does not arrive until the end of 2024 in any case) but there is a petrol version starting at under £26k. These days, for a reasonably sized 5 seater MPV type thing, that strikes me as pretty good value. Admittedly it's a 1.0 litre engine with 125BHP but it's probably fine if you are not towing anything. To put it into context, the Honda Jazz starts at £26k these days.
I am sure it will be useless off-road but that is not the target market. It's aimed at the same people who buy the passenger versions of Berlingos and Rifters, but (to me) looks cooler and better proportioned.
Interestingly, the Berlingo went BEV only until customers revolted, sales fell off a cliff and Citroen re-introduced a petrol version. Ford seem to have learned that lesson and brought a petrol version to market. No diesel though.
IMHO they've really nailed the design. It's utilitarian in a cool kind of way. Surely this has the potential to do really well. I think that Skoda Yeti fans would be interested, as would people considering a Dacia but who want something a bit better. I wonder why nobody seems to be talking about it. Interested to know what people think of it, or indeed if anyone has ordered one.
Will be a strong seller.
wyson said:
AmitG, I think I found the Honda equivalent, the StepWgn.. Just saw a JDM import in the flesh near me. Looks like my ideal family run about with the 2.0 eHEV drivetrain!
Edited by wyson on Friday 5th January 13:26
Autocar reviewed it:
https://www.autocar.co.uk/car-review/ford/tourneo-...
Basically - not bad, drives well, but cheap interior and no physical climate controls. And they could have made the interior more versatile.
Car Magazine like it quite a lot, and TBH I value their opinion much higher than Autocar:
https://www.carmagazine.co.uk/car-reviews/ford/tou...
I am going to take a looksie at some point. I still think it feels like good value at around £26k. I think that is Berlingo money, so a twin test of the two would be interesting to see.
https://www.autocar.co.uk/car-review/ford/tourneo-...
Basically - not bad, drives well, but cheap interior and no physical climate controls. And they could have made the interior more versatile.
Car Magazine like it quite a lot, and TBH I value their opinion much higher than Autocar:
https://www.carmagazine.co.uk/car-reviews/ford/tou...
I am going to take a looksie at some point. I still think it feels like good value at around £26k. I think that is Berlingo money, so a twin test of the two would be interesting to see.
Yes, going to have a look as well. I want the smallest external footprint (city driving) and the maximum interior space (family and little kids gubbins) and the electric version coming out next year seems to fit the bill perfectly. Not sure about the 1.0, wetbelt and powershift, although would risk it on a 2 year lease.
Spec and prices here:
https://www.ford.co.uk/content/dam/guxeu/uk/docume...
Looks like climate control is extra, as are LED lights. And you can't have a spare wheel with the auto transmission, which I find bizarre. I'm guessing it's emissions related.
Does anyone know if it's definitely classed as a passenger car? i.e. it's not classed as a commercial? The spec guide seems to suggest that, but I am trying to find out for sure.
The Ecoboost thing worries me a bit. Apparently the engine has been revised a lot over the years but I can't find anything to confirm whether it is now OK or not, given that (AFAIK) it still uses a wet belt. I note that Stellantis have moved away from a wet belt on their 3-cylinder 1.2 turbo. The latest mild hybrid version uses a chain apparently.
I am quite tempted to get one, but I need to know something about availability first. I don't want to pay a deposit into a black hole. I will try another Ford dealer, but any information or experiences from the group would be appreciated.
https://www.ford.co.uk/content/dam/guxeu/uk/docume...
Looks like climate control is extra, as are LED lights. And you can't have a spare wheel with the auto transmission, which I find bizarre. I'm guessing it's emissions related.
Does anyone know if it's definitely classed as a passenger car? i.e. it's not classed as a commercial? The spec guide seems to suggest that, but I am trying to find out for sure.
The Ecoboost thing worries me a bit. Apparently the engine has been revised a lot over the years but I can't find anything to confirm whether it is now OK or not, given that (AFAIK) it still uses a wet belt. I note that Stellantis have moved away from a wet belt on their 3-cylinder 1.2 turbo. The latest mild hybrid version uses a chain apparently.
I am quite tempted to get one, but I need to know something about availability first. I don't want to pay a deposit into a black hole. I will try another Ford dealer, but any information or experiences from the group would be appreciated.
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