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Gazzab
15,112 posts
151 months
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Hair splitting ;-)
The car changed from Speed 12 to the Cerbera Speed 12. Morphed in this context means transformed.
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V8 GRF
5,792 posts
79 months
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Gazzab said: Hair splitting ;-)
The car changed from Speed 12 to the Cerbera Speed 12. Morphed in this context means transformed. OK but the point I was making is there is no real connection other than the name.
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PascalBuyens
2,544 posts
151 months
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G1ABB said: Hi,
BFV is having some finishing touches to the AM engine. After that, it's spray time, sort the brakes, air jacks and lots of bits of pieces. After that it's testing. S&D are spraying one of the doors this week to see how the colour looks. I'm going to leave the CF weave showing in places, besides filler adds weight...
W112 is per David. Engine is almost back together, steering modification to do, new batteries needed, lots of TLC from Jonny to make sure everything is A1.
Funnily enough they could well be back to life at the same time. Talk about spoilt for choice. Some people have all the luck  Think I may have first looks on the Tuscan Turbo setup next Monday... and possibly first time my "car fleet" will be together...
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King Fisher
687 posts
48 months
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Indeed, clear distinctions must be made between a Speed 12, and a Cerbera Speed 12. They are not the same car. The cars Graham owns are Cerbera Speed 12s. The original Speed 12s, which DHF photographed, are missing. One is rumoured to be in a workshop with Bluebird, the other one went to HL Gorner and disappeared, and hasn't been seen since.
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richardgrace75
Original Poster
59 posts
13 months
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I guess the car that I was initially curious about was W112... But now I am curious about them all! How on earth cars of such significant can go missing I can't understand.
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PascalBuyens
2,544 posts
151 months
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richardgrace75 said: I guess the car that I was initially curious about was W112... But now I am curious about them all! How on earth cars of such significant can go missing I can't understand. Probably ended up in a private collection somewhere, hidden under a cover, never to be seen again...
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V8 GRF
5,792 posts
79 months
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THe main cause is that Peter Wheeler wasn't all that sentimental and allowed the crushing and breaking up of some significant bits of TVR history, although some was unavaidable because of regulations eg The original 1990 Motorshow Griffith car. All of the Tubs for the Speed12 cerberas are accounted for Graham owns four with the fifth being unassembled and accounted for. As far as I can ascertain there were only two (at most) real speed 12s built with two show cars with plywood and steel chassis, one being the original car referred to as 'The Duck Pond' (which was crushed) and one of the two in the pictures above. I believe that one of those non runners is one of the cars referred to by King Fisher above and is the one that the owner of Bluebird 'claims' to have mislaid!!  With the HL Gorner one being a genuine car. I'm not sure if there was another Speed12 race car.
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dhf
1,103 posts
63 months
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[quote=V8 GRF]THe main cause is that Peter Wheeler wasn't all that sentimental and allowed the crushing and breaking up of some significant bits of TVR history, although some was unavaidable because of regulations eg The original 1990 Motorshow Griffith car.
What regs out of interest ?
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V8 GRF
5,792 posts
79 months
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dhf]8 GRF said: THe main cause is that Peter Wheeler wasn't all that sentimental and allowed the crushing and breaking up of some significant bits of TVR history, although some was unavaidable because of regulations eg The original 1990 Motorshow Griffith car.
What regs out of interest ? The show Griffith (F596 ACK) was a pre-type approval prototype so it had to be destroyed to comply with the type approval regulations rather than be retained for future sale.
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dhf
1,103 posts
63 months
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V8 GRF said: The show Griffith (F596 ACK) was a pre-type approval prototype so it had to be destroyed to comply with the type approval regulations rather than be retained for future sale. The yellow one ?
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richardgrace75
Original Poster
59 posts
13 months
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I'm guessing this one?... 
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V8 GRF
5,792 posts
79 months
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dhf said: V8 GRF said: The show Griffith (F596 ACK) was a pre-type approval prototype so it had to be destroyed to comply with the type approval regulations rather than be retained for future sale. The yellow one ? No that was the Speed Six Griffith, I'm talking about the dark blue 1990 car with door handles and the S inspired interior. The yellow car was just a styling exercise so that would probably have been OK that one just fell under the category of 'non sentimental clear out'. ETA ^^^^ Yep that's the one.
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RedSpike66
1,968 posts
81 months
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 I have always thought that looked, sounded, and went, awesome ! Such a shame there isn't a single one around - it would still look amazing today - a beast of a car. The Top Gear video of the white one on track is just WOW ! Sounds like a Spitfire on full chat as it flies past.
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crimbo
895 posts
97 months
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never liked the look of the speed 12 but the cerbra speed 12 
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quattrophenia
916 posts
67 months
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Who ever gets theirs back on the road first, just promise us you will do a good quality video to put on Youtube for us mere mortals to drool over! Doesn't have to be anything fancy, actually it does, sitting at 180 down the autobahn would be nice.
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Mark.
9,995 posts
145 months
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What sort of Speed 12 was it the chap from The Prodigy had? Or is that an urban myth?
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V8 GRF
5,792 posts
79 months
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Mark. said: What sort of Speed 12 was it the chap from The Prodigy had? Or is that an urban myth? Liam Howlett I believe ordered one but no Speed 12s were ever sold to the public, it was a publicity stunt by Peter Wheeler, he never drove one home either.
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JulianHJ
6,613 posts
131 months
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Mark. said: What sort of Speed 12 was it the chap from The Prodigy had? Or is that an urban myth? I may be muddling my TVR history, but I think one or two of the band members (Keith and/or Liam?) had 'regular' Cerbs with race engines? And/or had orders for Speed 12s which never materialised as PW pulled the plug on the project citing 'too powerful for the road' or something similar...
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G1ABB
661 posts
73 months
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Mark.
9,995 posts
145 months
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Thanks Chaps - clears that up
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