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Alexdaredevilz
4,257 posts
48 months
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dbv8 said: I think you are wrong. Who are these people you say are serious and what do you base that belief on? I have met a lot of these people face to face and can confirm 99% of this banter is just that. Its all tongue in cheek and a bit of fun. Lighten up please. Oh and  Some times I cry myself to sleep after reading all the nasty abuse you give me!
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dbv8
5,695 posts
89 months
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Alexdaredevilz said: Some times I cry myself to sleep after reading all the nasty abuse you give me! You can talk skinny boy. I bought a rowing machine yesterday because of you. 
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lestershaw
1,363 posts
27 months
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Am i wrong in thinking that chimaera owners buy them because they want a chimaera, otherwise they would have bought a griff,they are only a few thousand more and presumably cost the same to run, with very similar performance. So its just a matter of taste which is why we all chose tvrs in the first place.
As we spend more time in them than looking at them,isnt the cabin at least as important as the looks?
I think the rivalry is fun and adds another dimension to tvr ownership a bit like tottenham vs arsenal,
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Alexdaredevilz
4,257 posts
48 months
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dbv8 said: You can talk skinny boy. I bought a rowing machine yesterday because of you. And I bet it broke the second you sat on it!
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lazyitus
18,914 posts
135 months
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dbv8 said: I think you are wrong. Who are these people you say are serious and what do you base that belief on? I have met a lot of these people face to face and can confirm 99% of this banter is just that. Its all tongue in cheek and a bit of fun. Lighten up please. Oh and Fair enough. If it is all just banter, thats fine. I just don't think it is 100%. I'm chilled.
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dbv8
5,695 posts
89 months
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Alexdaredevilz said: And I bet it broke the second you sat on it! Oh yeah i guess i will have to get round to sitting on it sometime. Too busy getting the car back together for tomorrow. Back on topic. I originally wanted a Griff but bought my Chim 450 because it gave me the most bang for bucks. I soon fell in love with it and havent regretted it.
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Alexdaredevilz
4,257 posts
48 months
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I wanted a Cerb originally, but the complexity of the engine put me off,
Chim was the next best thing, never wanted a griff tbh
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dbv8
5,695 posts
89 months
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Alexdaredevilz said: I wanted a Cerb originally, but the complexity of the engine put me off,
Chim was the next best thing, never wanted a griff tbh Well obviously. My dream at the time was a proved 400+bhp 4.5 but all the talk of inflated running costs and reliability put me off. Also the good ones were way out of my budget.
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Guillotine
5,021 posts
133 months
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Back on topic, IMHO
The "rivalry" came from the launch of the Chim.
The Griff had been around for a few years and had sold quite well, but it was born from the Tuscan Challenge Cars and was actually quite a harsh and focussed car. Some owners complained that they wanted something "softer", better in traffic, easier to handle and more user friendly STILL with the punch and flare of the Griff.
PW saw this as a marketing opportunity to have 2 models in the same sector an a useful way of ironing out some of the issues with the Griff. So TVR brought out the Chimeara (means hydrid creature from mythology - or something like that). Adding all the above, there was more bootspace, softer spring/damper settings, raised radiator and the power curves were smoother. It was an evollution of the Griff. Best of Both.
Majorly succesfull, the Chim outsold the Griff 4:1. TVRs best to that date.
And so now you have the sales pitch.
"Well sir, we have the focussed and edgey Griffith, or you can have the smoother easier Chim, you choose"
Ofcourse now the performance lines are now fudged with customers uprating and tweaking their suspension/engines etc, so its now down to numbers (price and availability) looks and qudos. The rarer Griffith with its hairy chested "car that saved TVR" image and classic looks, or the more user friendly and bang for buck Chim.
There's a choice to be made when you buy now, therefore you yourself will decide one way or another - Chim or Griff - and in that way, there will always be a rivalry as it will put you in one camp.
But it is...and always was...an
"either way you bought a TVR so you're ok with us" thing, so banter it remains!
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haircutmike
6,757 posts
73 months
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You're probably right Andy but is life that simple?
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Twistygit
254 posts
22 months
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Alexdaredevilz said: I wanted a Cerb originally, but the complexity of the engine put me off,
Chim was the next best thing, never wanted a griff tbh +1
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macar
335 posts
39 months
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Chim's are ok, but they seem to have problems with the roof mechanism-always seem to be up/closed.
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2 sMoKiN bArReLs
16,310 posts
104 months
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macar said: Chim's are ok, but they seem to have problems with the roof mechanism-always seem to be up/closed. Nope, as already been noted on here, it's the Griffs that have that problemo! 
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bad company
1,872 posts
135 months
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I am on my 4th Chim. Why would I want an inferior version with a tiny boot & difficult roof?
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davemac250
4,204 posts
74 months
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Because if you'd bought one griff it would have been enough?
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smartypants
17,405 posts
38 months
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bad company said: I am on my 4th Chim. Why would I an inferior version with a tiny boot & difficult roof? Tiny boot? Difficult roof? What TVR is that?
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haircutmike
6,757 posts
73 months
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Who cares, I'm off  . Taking 15 year old daughter to kennel job at 7.30 tomorrow, ffs!
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mart 63
446 posts
113 months
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This chimp and griff banter is great fun ,keep it up!!.Must say though its a bit one sided.The griff guys must be spending more time pruning there chest hair than looking on here.Stunning cars though them griffs,will have to trade in next year.
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davemac250
4,204 posts
74 months
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Hey, we are out-numbered!
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Chilliman
3,421 posts
30 months
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davemac250 said: Hey, we are out-classed! EFA 
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