BNG Runway Speeds

[G1ABB]

Paul,

It's 840BHP with a huge amount of torque and weighs about a tonne. There is quite a good article in EVO about it. Must be on here somewhere and might be worth a read. I can only describe the acceleration as something akin to the Rock on Roller Coaster.. for anyone that has been on it.

It really is brutal and just goes and goes and goes so I didn't get near the limit at any point. Biggest surprise for me was how stable it is and how well it handled on a relatively poor surface.

Let me know if you want to have a closer look at the engineering sometime as the other CS12 in not wearing any clothes at the moment and this makes it very interesting to see how it has been built.

Regards
Graham

blackiepaul said:

I have no idea on this car so what sort of power is it running? 190 mph in 1.4 miles and then to stop again is pretty incredible, there are not many cars that can do that in 2 miles.

G1ABB said:

Car was run in by early afternoon on Saturday so Jonny changed the oil and we upped the anti a bit. We then did some higher speed runs later in the day when it was quiet up to about 5k revs in the mid-gears. I took her out again on Sunday with the charity winners, Alison and John, but again didn't push it too far. I would guess I took John up to about 180/190mph but then I backed off and did this again on each run. The acceleration was far more fun than going fast on that kind of surface.

In terms of max speed it might be worth checking with Steve Guest as he was following me in his Cerb on some of the quicker runs. He maxed out but I don't know how far ahead the CS12 was at the time. Maybe he could make an estimate. I didn't bother looking at the speedo and I didn't put anywhere near all the power down as that was never the intention. On a better quality surface it would be interesting to stretch her legs... so to speak!

The car was very controllable and never lary. Apart from using a sequential box and being very pleasantly deafened it was pretty easy to drive. My only error was thinking I was turning round at 10mph and I was nearer 70mph!.. No issues though and lesson learnt. Everyone involved is still beaming and I still haven't calmed down it was so exciting.

Could be two CS12's on the next outing!

[schimg]

G1ABB said:

In terms of max speed it might be worth checking with Steve Guest as he was following me in his Cerb on some of the quicker runs. He maxed out but I don't know how far ahead the CS12 was at the time. Maybe he could make an estimate. I didn't bother looking at the speedo and I didn't put anywhere near all the power down as that was never the intention. On a better quality surface it would be interesting to stretch her legs... so to speak!

Hi G,

I know you had v.v.little visibility out of the back...I gave you a few seconds and therefore space so you could play without concerns I'd then set off at varying rates usually lifting off just over 150....a few times I found myself approaching far quicker than I would ideally have liked....I was always mindful that there could be gremlins that might bring you to a halt...and as you are such a wide boy (carwise) that is I'd have been struggling to get by if I run out of the black stuff!

I was a little over 160 for the runs on Sunday ....gave you even more of a gap tho...the lady who I had offered the passenger seat to will confirm that we had to brake very hard on the last run...when we came across the BMW who had stopped to remove the braking point signs ( he wasn't parked dangerously or anything...but obviously you have to stop)

Main thing is that SP12 went brill...you did a cracking job considering you'd never driven her before...and a brave bloke to do it in front of a load of people...I know the TVR community appreciate the time effort and accessibility you have shown in this whole exercise....thank god it isn't sat in some collection gathering dust, nice one!

Considering that the car had been totally rebuilt..ticked all the box's ..had good manners on the track...is a credit to Brian, Jonny, You...and more importantly Amika, top lady to let you do it in the first place!

Let's get the Aston one done next

Edited by schimg on Monday 10th September 19:59

[G1ABB]

Steve

I knew you were looking after me and it made everything that much easier. The last thing I would have needed was a tailgater on the slower runs. Probably not helping you though when I was lifting off and playing with those big brakes... It's difficult to explain but the car handles it so well I didn't realise I might be giving you a hard time in places... I was actually braking very softly. The CS12 just stops on it's nose if you want it to... Good job I didn't do exactly that or the results might have been dangerous.. I didn't even know you were behind me on some of the runs I was concentrating so hard on what I was doing. Even when I over ran the turning circle I'd forgotten all about it on the return run until Jonny reminded me at the end, such is the exhilaration.

Luckily Amika loves the car and my children are progressively turning into petrol heads! Your are 100% right though we only do things we both agree to do, so Amika's ongoing support is very important. I'm really pleased that I was able to keep my promise to George, he is a great kid. James and Jasmine had a great time with him.

Talk soon.

Graham

schimg said:

G1ABB said:

In terms of max speed it might be worth checking with Steve Guest as he was following me in his Cerb on some of the quicker runs. He maxed out but I don't know how far ahead the CS12 was at the time. Maybe he could make an estimate. I didn't bother looking at the speedo and I didn't put anywhere near all the power down as that was never the intention. On a better quality surface it would be interesting to stretch her legs... so to speak!

Hi G,

I know you had v.v.little visibility out of the back...I gave you a few seconds and therefore space so you could play without concerns I'd then set off at varying rates usually lifting off just over 150....a few times I found myself approaching far quicker than I would ideally have liked....I was always mindful that there could be gremlins that might bring you to a halt...and as you are such a wide boy (carwise) that is I'd have been struggling to get by if I run out of the black stuff!

I was a little over 160 for the runs on Sunday ....gave you even more of a gap tho...the lady who I had offered the passenger seat to will confirm that we had to brake very hard on the last run...when we came across the BMW who had stopped to remove the braking point signs ( he wasn't parked dangerously or anything...but obviously you have to stop)

Main thing is that SP12 went brill...you did a cracking job considering you'd never driven her before...and a brave bloke to do it in front of a load of people...I know the TVR community appreciate the time effort and accessibility you have shown in this whole exercise....thank god it isn't sat in some collection gathering dust, nice one!

Considering that the car had been totally rebuilt..ticked all the box's ..had good manners on the track...is a credit to Brian, Jonny, You...and more importantly Ameeeka, top lady to let you do it in the first place.

Let's get the Aston one done next

Edited by G1ABB on Monday 10th September 20:57

[dbv8]

Heres an early run in mine to 152 filmed by my passenger Nick

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mgUnkm3ZE1c&fea...

[pigpen]

Thanks for the run Derek - & sorry if I had you braking too early.... There's a vid of mine here http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IaKjDB2MX2I&fea...

Cheers

Mike

[dbv8]

pigpen said:

Thanks for the run Derek - & sorry if I had you braking too early....Mike

Ha, better safe than sorry Mike.
When i went 158 it was well before the cone but I seemed to have a chat about it with the passenger before i remembered to start braking. Those poor little discs didnt know what hit em and the back end was very skittish. Fun tho

[pigpen]

Probably best I was in the early runs then....

[blackiepaul]

Hi Graham,

I am aiming to get my FGT to around 850 over the winter but it weights alot more than your baby. My Sag has a serious output and is truly brutal so yours must be fabulous to drive. The track and shape of your car I am sure is helping with its stability, the rear valence on mine seems to be the biggest issue as it may as well be a parachute.

I have driven a Veyron at the Topgear test track which was amazing if not slightly clinical, but it shows what 1,000BHP can do.

I am off to the USA tomorrow and just get back in time to race in the Britcar 24 but it would be good to come and have a look at some stage afterwards. I will swat up and learn

Regards

Paul........





[quote=G1ABB]Paul,

It's 840BHP with a huge amount of torque and weighs about a tonne. There is quite a good article in EVO about it. Must be on here somewhere and might be worth a read. I can only describe the acceleration as something akin to the Rock on Roller Coaster.. for anyone that has been on it.

It really is brutal and just goes and goes and goes so I didn't get near the limit at any point. Biggest surprise for me was how stable it is and how well it handled on a relatively poor surface.

Let me know if you want to have a closer look at the engineering sometime as the other CS12 in not wearing any clothes at the moment and this makes it very interesting to see how it has been built.

Regards
Graham


[quote=G1ABB]

[G1ABB]

Give us a shout some time.

Might be worth you asking Jonny about the set up of your car. He is clearly a genius with track toys. - J G racing.

Graham

blackiepaul said:

Hi Graham,

I am aiming to get my FGT to around 850 over the winter but it weights alot more than your baby. My Sag has a serious output and is truly brutal so yours must be fabulous to drive. The track and shape of your car I am sure is helping with its stability, the rear valence on mine seems to be the biggest issue as it may as well be a parachute.

I have driven a Veyron at the Topgear test track which was amazing if not slightly clinical, but it shows what 1,000BHP can do.

I am off to the USA tomorrow and just get back in time to race in the Britcar 24 but it would be good to come and have a look at some stage afterwards. I will swat up and learn

Regards

Paul........

G1ABB said:

Paul,

It's 840BHP with a huge amount of torque and weighs about a tonne. There is quite a good article in EVO about it. Must be on here somewhere and might be worth a read. I can only describe the acceleration as something akin to the Rock on Roller Coaster.. for anyone that has been on it.

It really is brutal and just goes and goes and goes so I didn't get near the limit at any point. Biggest surprise for me was how stable it is and how well it handled on a relatively poor surface.

Let me know if you want to have a closer look at the engineering sometime as the other CS12 in not wearing any clothes at the moment and this makes it very interesting to see how it has been built.

Regards
Graham

G1ABB said:

[DonkeyApple]

AndyT350 said:

I managed to get mine off after a couple of beers

and some borrowed tools..

now resides in my flat waiting for me to decide what to do next -

its in a bit of state.

I have some fond memories of nights like that.

[schimg]

G1ABB said:

Edited by G1ABB on Monday 10th September 20:57

Looking at the various bits that have posted up on reflection I should have left more space TBH, I was having some fun myself though trying to get the cerbera pushing along a bit...when you look at the size of the brakes on yours and the lack of weight....well no comparison..still it went well..

All the kids loved it which was brill... you know the George loves that car...it was so nice of you to do that..especially as it was the first thing you suggested after Jonny and You had done the initial runs...stay with him for life that will...enough said!

I will get that film that I took following the SP12 on the road was interesting!..Plus the in-car stuff been trying to email it over tonight...file too big...leave it with me..

Again just so pleased that the car was so reliable....and we know it's in safe hands .looks good for the future a very rare and positive thing to hear about TVR for a long time...

[Graham]

G1ABB said:

Biggest surprise for me was how stable it is and how well it handled on a relatively poor surface.

The previous owner said the same thing when we ran the tuscans and the speed12 on the front at black pool in 2006?

the front is about as wide as a tuscan is long and made of concrete sections about 20ft long that dip in the middle to drain from one side to the sea.

the max you could get out of the tuscan was about 130 as the back end started skipping off the ground every 20 ft and there was a real danger of spinning the car in a straight line, oh and your eyeballs were bouncing...


the speed12 on the other hand apparently loaded up at about 130 and everything flattened out !!! so he kept his foot in 170 was the figure mentioned then... on a 14 ft wide strip of road with 2 big walls either side and the sea the other side of one of them !!!!

[grahamw48]

Here's a short (CS12) video of mine:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lRf6pNAAQnM&lis...

[G1ABB]

He told me the same thing and I completely agree with everything he said. Car is amazing.

Graham said:

The previous owner said the same thing when we ran the tuscans and the speed12 on the front at black pool in 2006?

the front is about as wide as a tuscan is long and made of concrete sections about 20ft long that dip in the middle to drain from one side to the sea.

the max you could get out of the tuscan was about 130 as the back end started skipping off the ground every 20 ft and there was a real danger of spinning the car in a straight line, oh and your eyeballs were bouncing...


the speed12 on the other hand apparently loaded up at about 130 and everything flattened out !!! so he kept his foot in 170 was the figure mentioned then... on a 14 ft wide strip of road with 2 big walls either side and the sea the other side of one of them !!!!

[G1ABB]

You didn't do anything wrong, we just learnt something about the performance of the CS12. Astonishing comes to mind. I'm still hyped up two days later! Note to self, must lay off the tea and coffee for a few days to try and relax. LOL.

Funnily enough, Jonny sent me a text Sunday night to let me know he had to lock the car up in a darkened room to calm her down too! Sounds about right.

schimg said:

G1ABB said:

Edited by G1ABB on Monday 10th September 20:57

Looking at the various bits that have posted up on reflection I should have left more space TBH, I was having some fun myself though trying to get the cerbera pushing along a bit...when you look at the size of the brakes on yours and the lack of weight....well no comparison..still it went well..

All the kids loved it which was brill... you know the George loves that car...it was so nice of you to do that..especially as it was the first thing you suggested after Jonny and You had done the initial runs...stay with him for life that will...enough said!

I will get that film that I took following the SP12 on the road was interesting!..Plus the in-car stuff been trying to email it over tonight...file too big...leave it with me..

Again just so pleased that the car was so reliable....and we know it's in safe hands .looks good for the future a very rare and positive thing to hear about TVR for a long time...

[Don1]

Great work fellas, and wonderful to see the '12 back out there. It looks and sounds epic.

[R 6UY S]

dbv8 said:

Just had a look at google maps and trying to guestimate the distance from the end of the run to the braking point. I guess at about 0.8 - 0.9 mile. What do you think?

If thats the case then a standing start to hit 158 before the cone has made my weekend

Kept forgetting to clock it when i was doing the runs (way too giddy) but there was no way that was 2 miles! So i went on google maps and used there Maps Labs Distance Measurement Tool. Now from where we were setting off just down from the SPEED 12 to the end of the straight bit where you turn round i am getting 1.165 miles and from where we were setting off to the last big warehouse next to the track (the braking cone was well before this and at the speeds i was getting upto the end of the warehouse was stamp on here or die!) I'm getting 0.894 miles! If that is right then i'm well happy!!!! :-)

If you put in LS25 6JE to google maps goto the bottom left and click on Maps Labs and switch on the distance measurement tool then measure the runway from right to left and see what you get.

[AndyT350]

DonkeyApple said:

I have some fond memories of nights like that.

And luckily TVR owners are a caring sharing bunch! (Why I waited until it got dark and i'd had 5 beers to start any DIY repairs though i'll never know!)

[dbv8]

R 6UY S said:

Kept forgetting to clock it when i was doing the runs (way too giddy) but there was no way that was 2 miles! So i went on google maps and used there Maps Labs Distance Measurement Tool. Now from where we were setting off just down from the SPEED 12 to the end of the straight bit where you turn round i am getting 1.165 miles and from where we were setting off to the last big warehouse next to the track (the braking cone was well before this and at the speeds i was getting upto the end of the warehouse was stamp on here or die!) I'm getting 0.894 miles! If that is right then i'm well happy!!!! :-)

If you put in LS25 6JE to google maps goto the bottom left and click on Maps Labs and switch on the distance measurement tool then measure the runway from right to left and see what you get.

Hmmm, cant seem to get that measurement tool thing to work here.
I agree its less than 0.9 miles. Its good to know mine will probably hit its rev limit within a standing mile.

Did anyone time or have video footage they can get times off? From a standing start to 158 at the cone I reckon was about 25-26 seconds for me.

[biper]

Looking at the vid you sent me Derek, you can see where I let of the gas and hit the brakes, that was from a standing start. Think you said about 27secs