COMPUTER VIRUS

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macca

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508 posts

280 months

Wednesday 19th June 2002
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Be very careful opening emails addressed "Hi, {your name}, darling". I received such an email today from a TVR club and would assume that other members on this clubs database may also receive this email. You won't know that it is from the TVR club because the virus fools you into thinking it came from another source.

By the way I don't recall subscribing to this particular club and it is not in my region so I assume they got my name from Pistonheads since it is my user name that was used in the email title. They could have all Pistonheads emails in their database, so everyone on this site could be affected?

Fortunately, I have software to detect viruses and have not been affected.

TED, I've deliberately omitted the club's name because I don't think it serves any purpose at this time (as mentioned, you won't be able to immediately identify it other than by the title of the email). Email me if you need to know more.


PetrolTed

34,428 posts

304 months

Wednesday 19th June 2002
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Macca it's probably one of these viruses that spoofs the email address. It's probably not come form the club at all. I've had people complaining that PH has sent then viruses but it wasn't us it was a feature of the virus which had scanned the address book for an address to use.

At the end of the day, you must run anti-virus software on your own PC.

Neil Menzies

5,167 posts

285 months

Thursday 20th June 2002
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Probably the Klez virus (http://vil.mcafee.com/dispVirus.asp?virus_k=99455)
Picks names from someone's address list for both sender and addressee - so the addressee gets pissed off with a totally innocent party.

jamesc

2,820 posts

285 months

Thursday 20th June 2002
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I have been hit by this thing as well; the damn thing seems to destroy files. What is the best way of rid of it. I am using Anti Virus 9X.

James

Neil Menzies

5,167 posts

285 months

Thursday 20th June 2002
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I have been hit by this thing as well; the damn thing seems to destroy files. What is the best way of rid of it. I am using Anti Virus 9X.

James


Follow the link and it should give you what you need to do to remove the virus, manually if necessary. Klez is nasty; it also disables anti-virus software if it can.

Don

28,377 posts

285 months

Thursday 20th June 2002
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As a bit of advice. We use Norton Anti-Virus - various flavours of it. Its great. But it is absolutely ESSENTIAL to update the Anti-Virus definitions as often as possible. This applies to any AV product of course.

If you've got a fast connection daily is a good idea.

Irs amazing how many people don't bother - and then disaster strikes....

simpo one

85,563 posts

266 months

Thursday 20th June 2002
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'But it is absolutely ESSENTIAL to update the Anti-Virus definitions as often as possible. This applies to any AV product of course.'

100% yes. Anti-virus software is not 'fit and forget'. If it hasn't been told about a new virus (and dozens if not hundreds come out every week) then it won't detect it. I use Norton AntiVirus 2002 and use their Automatic Update option. Each time you go online it looks for a new update and downloads/installs it automatically.

Klez tried to get in but was shot dead at the front gate!

macca

Original Poster:

508 posts

280 months

Tuesday 25th June 2002
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Ted,

It came from a TVR Club. I understand how emails work and how viruses substitute the reply to address with another email address to fool the recipient. It is the return path information that reveals the true sender.

I'm wondering why my email address was with this particular club, I am not a member and have never contacted them. If they have my address, do they have other TVR members addresses? If so, they may be affected.

whatever

2,174 posts

271 months

Tuesday 25th June 2002
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Another useful protective measure is to avoid using Microsoft email programs, as these seem to be particularly at risk of passing on such viruses.

JoePhandango

120 posts

269 months

Tuesday 25th June 2002
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avoid using microsoft

How true... Most of these viruses are propagated by the fact that MS outlook on the PC is scrptable, meaning that certain types of attachments can run themselves without the user even knowing it I've been using apple macs since the early 90's. Apple email clients have never been scrptable in the way that PC clients are. I've only ever had 1 virus (a relatively harmless trojan horse). In terms of the internet, there is virtually nothing out there that won't run on a Mac and with Mac's new OS, the old cross compatibility issues are fading fast...

simpo one

85,563 posts

266 months

Tuesday 25th June 2002
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'there is virtually nothing out there that won't run on a Mac and with Mac's new OS, the old cross compatibility issues are fading fast...'

But Macs still cost four times as much! Plus they don't even know what an exe file is. A friend has the latest PowerMac G4 and he's almost in a world of his own; I can't even lend him software.

MikeyT

16,576 posts

272 months

Tuesday 25th June 2002
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But Macs still cost four times as much! Plus they don't even know what an exe file is. A friend has the latest PowerMac G4 and he's almost in a world of his own; I can't even lend him software.



They don't cost hardly any more for the same performance if you know where to look.

And anyway, what's a few quid more for something state-of-the-art? I want to look at something beautiful if I'm gonna look at it every day not some grey box which looks like it has jumped straight out of Fireball XL5 like every PC I see.

What is an .exe file anyway? And who the hell cares? If something goes wrong with the Mac it's pi55-easy to fix – unlike a PC – save fortunes on 'helpdesks' and the like.

If you're into, publishing, new media etc, you wouldn't touch a PC! Urrggghhhh. The very thought ...