Oil cooler mounting on a griff or chim

[MischaV8]

[quote=TimJM]

I must have more stones/grit around my way than you. I was thinking a custom mesh cage to fit around the oil cooler and clip onto the main mesh might be a sensible


Maybe some luck at my side but again yr mesh idea got me thinking thanks! Some protection is better
than no protection.

[Slow M]

Chilliman said:

This makes much sense to me. Shirly it must be possible to fit a temporary digital readout oil temp gauge to determine exactly what temps the oil is getting to? I was considering fitting a cooler to my MG (RV8 powered) but was strongly adivised against it as it would do more harm than good... (yes I know the 3.5 lump in the MG probably doesn't get as hot internally as a modded up nutters Tiv).

So, er, anyone know what the oil temperature under varying conditions is supposed to be?

Chilli

Yes it is possible, and stop calling us Shirly.

Who's the nitwit who told you the nonsense about the cooler? Mocal make a lovely oil thermostat.


Best,
B.

[phazed]

My oil temp pickup was on my hose to the cooler.

Normal oil temp was p[retty much the same as the water temp but on a TD could go up to 110 degrees iirc.

[Chilliman]

So, er, how hot don't we want it to get? Do I need one? how will I know? Am I damaging my engine? Why are oysters so expensive? These are the things I need to know

[phazed]

For the road, no.

Oysters, no one knows.

Of course if you're going to track it?

[Chilliman]

phazed said:

For the road, no.

Oysters, no one knows.

Of course if you're going to track it?

My Cooper S had an oil cooler It was a '65 Morris 1275 with all the contemporary boy racer bits.. Custom dash, twin tanks, Dunlop alloy wheels. Bought it in '72 when the sprog arrived, had to sell my Lotus 7 so we could transport the sprog. Told the missus we could secure the sprog behind the seats in the 7 using bungy cords, but for some reason she wouldn't have it.....

[phazed]

Things turn full circle, I fancy a 7 derivative now!

[wadsapple]

You are the master of the spinning top after all ............................................

[phazed]

wadsapple said:

You are the master of the spinning top after all ............................................

That was below the belt

[phillpot]

Are you guys running 1/2" or 5/8" pipework?

[phazed]

No idea but I can check.....

[77racing]

I use Millers oil in my Rover v8 engines.I don't want the oil getting much hotter than 115 on a hot day in high summer. Millers is good for 120 and a bit over but not advised to get up there.100 would not be hot enough to produce good power and protection. Both mine run at 108-15 stinking hot after a track session. Road use I can't see you getting oil hot enough to warrant a cooler, probably most of the time it ain't getting hot enough. For my Road car I use a Lamonova water cooled oil cooler as on a cold day in winter it heats up the oil to engine temp which is a lot better protection in my opinion.

[phazed]

77racing said:

I use Millers oil in my Rover v8 engines.I don't want the oil getting much hotter than 115 on a hot day in high summer. Millers is good for 120 and a bit over but not advised to get up there.100 would not be hot enough to produce good power and protection. Both mine run at 108-15 stinking hot after a track session. Road use I can't see you getting oil hot enough to warrant a cooler, probably most of the time it ain't getting hot enough. For my Road car I use a Lamonova water cooled oil cooler as on a cold day in winter it heats up the oil to engine temp which is a lot better protection in my opinion.

Agree with all that, the oil rarely gets over 95 on the road.

In summer on a TD with a small cooler, (soon to be increased) I noticed the temp reach 118 deg, I quit immediately!

[77racing]

oh I forgot no problem with stones and debris getting into rad vanes as the cooler on a Lamanova is inside a neat aluminium tube. You can also run a diff or gearbox take off from Lamanova as well as the engine oil side of things

[QBee]

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phazed said:

77racing said:

I use Millers oil in my Rover v8 engines.I don't want the oil getting much hotter than 115 on a hot day in high summer. Millers is good for 120 and a bit over but not advised to get up there.100 would not be hot enough to produce good power and protection. Both mine run at 108-15 stinking hot after a track session. Road use I can't see you getting oil hot enough to warrant a cooler, probably most of the time it ain't getting hot enough. For my Road car I use a Lamonova water cooled oil cooler as on a cold day in winter it heats up the oil to engine temp which is a lot better protection in my opinion.

Agree with all that, the oil rarely gets over 95 on the road.

In summer on a TD with a small cooler, (soon to be increased) I noticed the temp reach 118 deg, I quit immediately!

This is the next thing on my list. Could both of you comment please? I drive my V8D 5 litre all year, both for road use, including sitting in traffic (the recent "spotted" was in Asda's underground carpark, epic noise!), and for track days.

I am probably still asleep, but if I am reading this correctly I need a Lamanova water type oil cooler on the road, then swap it for an air type oil cooler for track days. What's the best compromise to protect my engine both on cold mornings and hot track days, please?

[phazed]

Easiest and cheapest is the air cooled one.

Laminova coolers are harder to fit and are more expensive but have the advantage of warming the oil.

[QBee]

phazed said:

Easiest and cheapest is the air cooled one.

Laminova coolers are harder to fit and are more expensive but have the advantage of warming the oil.

I got the oil warming thing, my only question being which warms it quicker, the engine block itself or the water circulating? My common sense says engine block.....?

But does the Laminova also cool it better at higher track day temperatures, or would i be better with a air cooled type there?
If the latter, then as I see cooling to be more important than warming, I would stay with an air cooled one I think.

Thanks for your continued inputs guys. I just want to make to right decision and not be wishing i had done the opposite two hours after fitting. Daz has the monopoly on that!!

[phillpot]

77racing said:

For my Road car I use a Lamonova water cooled oil cooler as on a cold day in winter it heats up the oil to engine temp which is a lot better protection in my opinion.

"Modine" oil cooler...

[77racing]

Cheapest is the air cooled route, don't agree that a lamanover is hard to fit as you can fit it in any orientation if I remember right, allowing you to fit it anywhere in the engine bay. I will post a pic tomorrow in my griff. No you don't need two coolers. in an ideal world because you use your car more often on the road the oil will always be at the same temp as your water in the engine so a balanced thing. On a track it will climb a bit over water temp as the water rad will be running slightly hotter. Lamanova is the belt and braces fit and forget. I use two 29 row mocal air cooled rads on my rover Tuscan Challenge car and blank off as needed on the day.

[77racing]

As promised.................