Oil cooler mounting on a griff or chim

Oil cooler mounting on a griff or chim

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roseytvr

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1,788 posts

177 months

Tuesday 19th March 2013
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Ok guys, any pics of how and where you have mounted your oil coolers? I'm guessing in front of the rad but interested in your bracketry!

Discopotatoes

4,101 posts

220 months

Wednesday 20th March 2013
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I mounted it using mocal rubber oil cooler mount directly to the upper nose one panel but will be adding more support at the bottom as I want to mount both my air filters to it too

Slow M

2,726 posts

205 months

Wednesday 20th March 2013
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Discopotatoes said:


I mounted it using mocal rubber oil cooler mount directly to the upper nose one panel but will be adding more support at the bottom as I want to mount both my air filters to it too
Disco,

That may be upside down. I'd contact Mocal for their recommendation.

Best,
B.

Discopotatoes

4,101 posts

220 months

Wednesday 20th March 2013
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Slow M said:
Discopotatoes said:


I mounted it using mocal rubber oil cooler mount directly to the upper nose one panel but will be adding more support at the bottom as I want to mount both my air filters to it too
Disco,

That may be upside down. I'd contact Mocal for their recommendation.

Best,
B.
Thanks for you concern, I back filled the pipes and cooler when fitted so shouldn't be any air trapped in there, also I'd rather the oil cooler traps the air than air getting trapped in the pipe work not that I see that happening as air trapped in oil is normally suspended within the oil and will be pushed round
Cheers
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phazed

21,844 posts

203 months

Wednesday 20th March 2013
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Mines mounted top and bottom on its side in front of the rad, near side.

Pic later.

MischaV8

161 posts

207 months

Wednesday 20th March 2013
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here's one bracket, i can take a picture from the other one if you like no problem.



Edited by MischaV8 on Wednesday 20th March 08:53

phazed

21,844 posts

203 months

Wednesday 20th March 2013
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340x280mm cooler mounted on its side.


jesfirth

1,743 posts

241 months

Wednesday 20th March 2013
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Mine Griff 500 has a 300mm cooler mounted vertically in the centre of the radiator using simple bent 255mm flat steel and bolts.

With an oil cooler fitted you need to be careful about getting the oil temperature up to an adeqaute level in the winter though. Mine is covered up with a sheet of cardbord at present because it overcools when the air temperature is too low (anything below 10 degrees air temperature!) and cold oil will not do the engine any favours. You may want to think about why you want the cooler to do and its purpose before fitting one.

SILICONEKID350HP

14,997 posts

230 months

Wednesday 20th March 2013
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I have one to fit ,have not got a clue how to fit it ..I also want to fit a oil temp guage somewhere .I`m a bit scared i may do something wrong and damage the engine ..

I have a sandwich plate with a stat type thing screwed in ,two ready made braided hoses ,a bracket and a Mocal oil cooler ..

If i air lock it will ir stop flow to the engine ?

Discopotatoes

4,101 posts

220 months

Wednesday 20th March 2013
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SILICONEKID350HP said:
I have one to fit ,have not got a clue how to fit it ..I also want to fit a oil temp guage somewhere .I`m a bit scared i may do something wrong and damage the engine ..

I have a sandwich plate with a stat type thing screwed in ,two ready made braided hoses ,a bracket and a Mocal oil cooler ..

If i air lock it will ir stop flow to the engine ?
Stop faffing and fit it, you won't air lock it if you back fill the cooler and pipes and the filter( you need the short filter btw, same as ford Essex v6), dry fit every thing first when your happy fill it up. Keep an eye on the oil pressure light when you first start it up it should go out after a couple of seconds, then go for a drive and enjoy

SILICONEKID350HP

14,997 posts

230 months

Wednesday 20th March 2013
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Discopotatoes said:
SILICONEKID350HP said:
I have one to fit ,have not got a clue how to fit it ..I also want to fit a oil temp guage somewhere .I`m a bit scared i may do something wrong and damage the engine ..

I have a sandwich plate with a stat type thing screwed in ,two ready made braided hoses ,a bracket and a Mocal oil cooler ..

If i air lock it will ir stop flow to the engine ?
Stop faffing and fit it, you won't air lock it if you back fill the cooler and pipes and the filter( you need the short filter btw, same as ford Essex v6), dry fit every thing first when your happy fill it up. Keep an eye on the oil pressure light when you first start it up it should go out after a couple of seconds, then go for a drive and enjoy
Thanks Where isw the best place to drill for the pipes ..

Discopotatoes

4,101 posts

220 months

Wednesday 20th March 2013
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SILICONEKID350HP said:
Discopotatoes said:
SILICONEKID350HP said:
I have one to fit ,have not got a clue how to fit it ..I also want to fit a oil temp guage somewhere .I`m a bit scared i may do something wrong and damage the engine ..

I have a sandwich plate with a stat type thing screwed in ,two ready made braided hoses ,a bracket and a Mocal oil cooler ..

If i air lock it will ir stop flow to the engine ?
Stop faffing and fit it, you won't air lock it if you back fill the cooler and pipes and the filter( you need the short filter btw, same as ford Essex v6), dry fit every thing first when your happy fill it up. Keep an eye on the oil pressure light when you first start it up it should go out after a couple of seconds, then go for a drive and enjoy
Thanks Where isw the best place to drill for the pipes ..
I drilled just to bottom part of the inner wing down by the rad, and brought the pipes through into the wheel arch and cable tied them to the chassis just make sure it's clear of all the moving parts. Oh and protect the chassis from the braded hoses that stuff is like sand paper, and grommets on the holes in the body work

Edited by Discopotatoes on Wednesday 20th March 21:34

roseytvr

Original Poster:

1,788 posts

177 months

Wednesday 20th March 2013
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Magic - thanks to all, I get the picture. Daz, I live in burton on Trent, once I get it fitted properly and have it running if you fancy a drive across to check it out I will give you a hand to fit it
Cheers

Slow M

2,726 posts

205 months

Thursday 21st March 2013
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Discopotatoes said:
Thanks for you concern, I back filled the pipes and cooler when fitted so shouldn't be any air trapped in there, also I'd rather the oil cooler traps the air than air getting trapped in the pipe work not that I see that happening as air trapped in oil is normally suspended within the oil and will be pushed round
Cheers
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Another reason is that I've read that the engine can lose prime, from the oil gravity feeding back to the pan.

Best,
B.

TimJM

1,497 posts

209 months

Thursday 21st March 2013
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MischaV8 said:
here's one bracket, i can take a picture from the other one if you like no problem.



Edited by MischaV8 on Wednesday 20th March 08:53
I've been through a few radiators mostly due to fin damage from objects getting past the mesh at speed - isn't that oil cooler a little exposed there?

Edited by TimJM on Thursday 21st March 16:50

SILICONEKID350HP

14,997 posts

230 months

Thursday 21st March 2013
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roseytvr said:
Magic - thanks to all, I get the picture. Daz, I live in burton on Trent, once I get it fitted properly and have it running if you fancy a drive across to check it out I will give you a hand to fit it
Cheers
Thanks for the offer ! Can you post some pictures of the instalation ..Thanks

wadsapple

3,346 posts

186 months

Friday 22nd March 2013
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This is not on a chim or griff but might turn a light on for someone,I have a duct to the small fan which is primerary for the gear box and the small rad is the diff cooler using the same air the small mocal pump on the right side pumps oil through the diff,i run omex and have fan set to be controlled by ECU as regards temp.On my trackday Griffith i run a Lamanova water oil cooler which heats the oil up to engine temp then keeps it at engine temp .great oil cooler as you have the oil and water at the same temprature.No blocking off oil rads for me with cardboard in the winter as the Lamanova does not have a rad as such and cannot get damaged,it is a ali tube about 400mm x 65mm the slightly larger model has a diff cooler in it as well.





Edited by wadsapple on Friday 22 March 13:07

MischaV8

161 posts

207 months

Friday 22nd March 2013
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TimJM said:
I've been through a few radiators mostly due to fin damage from objects getting past the mesh at speed - isn't that oil cooler a little exposed there?

Edited by TimJM on Thursday 21st March 16:50
you have a point but there is not much room for another place with these Griffith's?!
after 6 years and 20000km+ no problems with rad and cooler.

as you know the rad is mounted almost flat/horizontal with the Griffith not with chimaera.

TimJM

1,497 posts

209 months

Monday 25th March 2013
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MischaV8 said:
you have a point but there is not much room for another place with these Griffith's?!
after 6 years and 20000km+ no problems with rad and cooler.

as you know the rad is mounted almost flat/horizontal with the Griffith not with chimaera.
I must have more stones/grit around my way than you. I was thinking a custom mesh cage to fit around the oil cooler and clip onto the main mesh might be a sensible approach.

Chilliman

11,990 posts

160 months

Monday 25th March 2013
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jesfirth said:
Mine Griff 500 has a 300mm cooler mounted vertically in the centre of the radiator using simple bent 255mm flat steel and bolts.

With an oil cooler fitted you need to be careful about getting the oil temperature up to an adeqaute level in the winter though. Mine is covered up with a sheet of cardbord at present because it overcools when the air temperature is too low (anything below 10 degrees air temperature!) and cold oil will not do the engine any favours. You may want to think about why you want the cooler to do and its purpose before fitting one.
This makes much sense to me. Shirly it must be possible to fit a temporary digital readout oil temp gauge to determine exactly what temps the oil is getting to? I was considering fitting a cooler to my MG (RV8 powered) but was strongly adivised against it as it would do more harm than good... (yes I know the 3.5 lump in the MG probably doesn't get as hot internally as a modded up nutters Tiv).

So, er, anyone know what the oil temperature under varying conditions is supposed to be?

Chilli smile