Speed12 Replica

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petepetrolhead

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143 posts

229 months

Sunday 12th January 2014
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Anyone else know this existed?:







It's on the Helical Technology stand at the Autosport International show at the NEC this weekend. I spoke to one of the Helical guys (used to work at TVR) and he said they have built it from scratch (made their own moulds) . It has an Aston Martin V12 engine so, if they ever make any to sell it won't be cheap!

Waddaya think??

paul1962

546 posts

214 months

V8 GRF

7,294 posts

210 months

Sunday 12th January 2014
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Correct they're both the same car. It's been in build at Bristol Avenue for a few months and they kept it secret for reasons of their own, but they've built it as a technology demonstrator for their company to show off products and their project engineering capabilities.

Looks a serious bit of kit from the pictures (I've not seen it although I knew snippets about it)and I'm sure it's well built as a lot of the guys from Bristol Avenue who worked on the originals were involved.

EGB

1,774 posts

157 months

Sunday 12th January 2014
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YES serious. Reawakens interest in TVR for future new models. Is the Aston engine tuned, or will be, to equal the tune of the original V12? Will it be raced for more publicity? Hope so. Is TVR "so close to greatness" again!

V8 GRF

7,294 posts

210 months

Sunday 12th January 2014
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EGB said:
YES serious. Reawakens interest in TVR for future new models. Is the Aston engine tuned, or will be, to equal the tune of the original V12? Will it be raced for more publicity? Hope so. Is TVR "so close to greatness" again!
Not being badged as a TVR as much of it as mentioned is new, although I understand it's very much based on teh 12.

Thiss photo of the cars spec being displayed at the show suggests it may be based on the Aston engine but again it sounds like there's a lot of new parts including the block. This may be more like the original Speed 12 was intended to be with a stronger CNC block especially as John Ravenscroft was involved. Power sounds like it may be even more......



(Pic courtesy of MV automotive)

EGB

1,774 posts

157 months

Sunday 12th January 2014
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Thanks David. I was a bit hasty in enthusiastically calling it a TVR. What ever Helical eventually call it. TBR is close enough to TVR. After a few drinks it will be TVVR! t will be associated with those in the know and those not yet in the know, as a close replica copy of the original Speed 12. Strewth ! The power. I wonder at the power to weight ratio.



Edited by EGB on Sunday 12th January 13:18

carbon chris

5 posts

128 months

Monday 13th January 2014
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It's worth pointing out that it isn't one of Graham Abbotts cars. In speed 12 terms, this would be number 3. It was built at helical in warton by paul seymour, tom blount, chris stallard, mike vernon, dave beaty and quickie. The paint was done by s and d. John ravenscroft has been working on the engine with vernon and will be consulting on stage 2 and 3 of the project.

450Nick

4,027 posts

212 months

Monday 13th January 2014
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carbon chris said:
stage 2 and 3 of the project.
...Which are..?

scotty_d

6,795 posts

194 months

Monday 13th January 2014
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Why was it built, just for fun or are they building a run of them to sell biggrin

carbon chris

5 posts

128 months

Monday 13th January 2014
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Stage 1 is the aston martin engine with around 600hp as in the orange car. Stage two is a new v12 and stage three includes twin turbos and 1000+ hp. The point is really to use the exhaust and emissions tech from helical and show that low emissions doesn't mean losing cylinders. You can buy one as well if you want. Helical are oem for jlr, aston, ford, ferrari etc.

F1SERB

460 posts

153 months

Tuesday 14th January 2014
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Looks even better with the front off


F1SERB

460 posts

153 months

Tuesday 14th January 2014
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The guy on the stand says they are open to offers of 400k


scotty_d

6,795 posts

194 months

Tuesday 14th January 2014
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F1SERB said:
The guy on the stand says they are open to offers of 400k

Hope my lotto numbers come in!

V8 GRF

7,294 posts

210 months

Tuesday 14th January 2014
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scotty_d said:
F1SERB said:
The guy on the stand says they are open to offers of 400k

Hope my lotto numbers come in!
As impressive as it is I think my money would be going elsewhere.

scotty_d

6,795 posts

194 months

Tuesday 14th January 2014
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V8 GRF said:
scotty_d said:
F1SERB said:
The guy on the stand says they are open to offers of 400k

Hope my lotto numbers come in!
As impressive as it is I think my money would be going elsewhere.
But when I get 156 million, 400k is peanuts, for the working man ehhh I'll keep my wee cerb

V8 GRF

7,294 posts

210 months

Tuesday 14th January 2014
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scotty_d said:
But when I get 156 million, 400k is peanuts, for the working man ehhh I'll keep my wee cerb
Ah well if we're talking that sort of money then I think I'd be pursuing W112 among others....... biggrin


BarnFind

492 posts

146 months

Tuesday 14th January 2014
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Is this an exact copy,it looks slightly different to me ?

V8 GRF

7,294 posts

210 months

Tuesday 14th January 2014
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BarnFind said:
Is this an exact copy,it looks slightly different to me ?
There are bodywork and mechanical differences but in principle it's based on the Speed12 Cerbera. As noted above by one of teh guys who worked on it it's Phase 1 of a project that will probably evolve into something different altogether.

neal1980

2,574 posts

239 months

Tuesday 14th January 2014
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400k, dream on!

You could get the real one for that....it is after all a replica.

Does a lamborghini countach replica sell for 400k hehe

Dont get me wrong do love it but very un-realistic price IMO.

m4tti

5,427 posts

155 months

Tuesday 14th January 2014
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From an engineering and TVR enthusiast I would have liked to have seen them create a cast speed 12 block with bucket heads (especially if they had input from john ravenscroft).. challenging and of limited commercial value though.